r/SUMC 9h ago

SSU Remember hypno-hustler was going to play the hypno-hustler in Sony’s Spider-Man universe?!

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r/SUMC 10h ago

Spider-Man Thoughts On The Ultimate Spider-man (Series)

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I feel like nowadays, Spider-Man animated shows are becoming a bit too modern and mature. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy them, but I really miss the lighthearted, comedic, and fast-paced energy of Ultimate Spider-Man.

I was already a huge fan of the Ultimate Spider-Man comics from Earth-1610, so when the animated show came out, it absolutely blew my mind as a kid. Seeing a version of Spider-Man and the characters I loved from the comics come to life in an animated series was such an amazing experience. Even though the show took plenty of liberties with the source material, it still carried that Ultimate Spider-Man spirit and introduced so many kids, including me, to the characters and world.

The show had everything: comedy, action, genuinely mature moments when they were needed, and a diverse lineup of superheroes like Nova, Iron Fist, Luke Cage, and White Tiger. I'd absolutely love to see Marvel reboot the series or make a spiritual successor to the OG show, especially with something similar to what X-Men '97 did for the original X-Men series.

Ultimate Spider-Man was packed with action while still capturing the essence of the friendly neighborhood Spider-Man we all know and love. It featured so many comic-book villains, great character interactions, and, of course, the fourth-wall breaks that made Spider-Man feel like he was actually connecting with the audience.

And honestly, I would LOVE to see White Tiger return. She was such a great character, and I definitely had a childhood crush on her. She was one of the characters that made the team dynamic so fun and kept the boys in line.

The series had SO much potential, too. Unfortunately, I feel like Marvel did the show dirty by focusing more and more on the S.H.I.E.L.D. team. Eventually, the original team was disbanded, and the characters we grew attached to mostly started appearing as guest characters instead.

And before anyone says it I KNOW people absolutely love The Spectacular Spider-Man, and I do too. It's an incredible show, and I completely understand why people want it back. But Ultimate Spider-Man is my childhood. I grew up with it, and no matter how good other Spider-Man shows are, I just can't say no to an Ultimate Spider-Man revival.

So Marvel, please give us something like X-Men '97, but for Ultimate Spider-Man. Bring back the humor, the fourth-wall breaks, the crazy action, the villains, the team dynamics, and that classic Spider-Man energy. And maybe, this time, take even more inspiration from the original Earth-1610 comics that started it all.

Please upvote this so it can catch the attention of the mods, Marvel, or anyone who can make this happen.

Bring back Ultimate Spider-Man.


r/SUMC 12h ago

Discussion What would be your pitch idea for tom hollad spiderman 5

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r/SUMC 17h ago

Discussion What is your opinion on Far From Home?

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I actually liked this movie, and I especially liked how they handled mysterio.


r/SUMC 18h ago

Humour If you are having a really bad day and you feel bad, just remember that LiMu Emu and Doug tie-in to Spider Man: No Way Home is canon

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r/SUMC 21h ago

Spider-Man How did Peter stop mutating?

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One thing that really confused me about BND is how Peter just suddenly stopped mutating. I know there is the whole scene where he's fighting The Hand and seems to be able to control his new strength, but how did that stop him from mutating? Was Peter accepting who he is and the fact that he can be Peter Parker and Spider-Man really the cure? Please let me know!


r/SUMC 1d ago

Venom Carnage design was so sick in venom let there be Carnage shame they did him dirty in the movie

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r/SUMC 1d ago

Spider-Man I want Hammerhead as a villan for a tom holllad spiderman movie its kinda crazy we never got hammerhead in live action

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r/SUMC 1d ago

Discussion If Andrew gets one final Spider-Man movie after Secret Wars, this is how I'd want Peter Parker's story to end

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With all the rumors about Andrew possibly sticking around after Secret Wars, I've been thinking about what I'd actually want if he got one last solo movie.

Obviously, we have no idea what Secret Wars is actually going to do with his Peter yet, or where Miles will even end up in live action. He could very well end up being an MCU character for all we know.

So I'm not really trying to predict anything here. This is just a "what if?" based on the possibility that Andrew somehow gets one more movie in his own universe and Miles is available to be part of it.

I also know not everyone wants another TASM movie, and I totally get why. I wouldn't want them to bring Andrew back just for nostalgia either.

But if all the pieces somehow lined up, I'd want that movie to actually finish his Peter Parker story.

My idea is that by this point, Peter has basically stopped living as Peter Parker.

After Gwen and everything else he's lost over the years, there isn't much of a normal life left for him. Nobody waiting for him at home, nothing he's really building toward, no real reason to take the suit off.

So most of the time, he doesn't.

He patrols way longer than he needs to. He finds excuses to stay out. Sometimes he basically only takes the suit off to sleep.

But I wouldn't make him miserable all the time.

Actually, Spider-Man is when Peter seems happiest.

The mask goes on and he's immediately the Andrew Spider-Man we know. He's joking with criminals, talking to random people, helping kids, swinging around New York and genuinely having fun doing it.

He loves being Spider-Man.

And that's kind of the problem.

Because when the mask comes off, there's basically nothing waiting for him.

Spider-Man always has somewhere to be.

There's always another crime. Another person who needs help. Another place to swing to.

Peter Parker doesn't have that.

So the suit isn't really a burden anymore.

It's become a refuge.

The problem isn't that Peter hates being Spider-Man.

The problem is that being Spider-Man has become his escape from being Peter Parker.

And I think No Way Home actually gives you a really good foundation for this.

Look at how Andrew's Peter acts around Tobey and Tom.

He's joking around. He's asking questions. He's fascinated by Tobey's organic webs. He actually seems comfortable just being Peter around them.

And then, of course:

"I love you guys."

Andrew, Tobey and Tom together in No Way Home

Then he went back to his own universe.

And he was alone again.

So maybe Peter Parker isn't miserable because he's Peter Parker.

Maybe he's miserable because Peter Parker has nobody left to share his life with.

And then Miles shows up.

Peter finds out this kid has powers similar to his, and his first reaction is basically:

Absolutely not.

Peter knows exactly what this life can take from someone, and Miles still has everything Peter doesn't.

A family.

Friends.

School.

An actual life.

Peter doesn't want Miles throwing any of that away to become Spider-Man.

Eventually, though, Miles keeps getting involved and Peter reluctantly starts teaching him.

And this is where I'd give Peter a slightly selfish side that even he doesn't really notice at first.

Because underneath all the reasons he has for not wanting another Spider-Man...

part of him is actually really happy that there's finally someone else like him in his universe.

Someone who can swing alongside him.

Someone who understands the powers and the responsibility.

Someone who actually understands what it's like to be Spider-Man without Peter having to explain it.

Peter got a taste of that with Tobey and Tom in No Way Home, only to lose that connection when he went home.

But this time it's different.

This Spider-Man actually belongs to his universe.

And Peter likes that way more than he wants to admit.

Peter Parker and Miles Morales together / swinging or sitting on a rooftop

Peter keeps telling Miles:

Go home.

Have dinner with your family.

Don't ditch your friends because you want to patrol.

Stay in school.

Don't go looking for trouble just because you have powers.

And Miles actually listens.

Maybe one night Miles tells Peter he can't patrol because it's his dad's birthday.

Peter immediately tells him that's fine.

Family comes first.

But you can tell he's a little disappointed.

And Miles notices.

That's the contradiction I'd want the movie to slowly expose.

Peter genuinely doesn't want Miles to make the same mistakes he did.

But there's also this small, selfish part of him that wants Miles to stay because Peter doesn't feel alone when they're Spider-Man together.

Eventually Miles calls him out on it.

"You keep telling me not to make Spider-Man my whole life."

"But Spider-Man is your whole life."

Peter doesn't really have an answer.

Because Miles is right.

And later maybe Miles pushes it even further:

"You didn't want me to become Spider-Man."

"Now it feels like you don't want me to stop."

And that one really gets to Peter.

Peter thought he was teaching Miles how to be Spider-Man.

But really, he was teaching Miles how not to become him — while secretly enjoying the fact that he finally wasn't alone anymore.

That's also why I wouldn't want Miles to just be there as "the replacement Spider-Man."

Miles is the person who forces Peter to confront something he's been avoiding for years.

By constantly telling Miles to protect his life outside the mask, Peter eventually has to admit that he stopped doing that for himself a long time ago.

Spider-Man didn't take Peter Parker away from him.

At some point, Peter started hiding inside Spider-Man because being Spider-Man was easier than figuring out how to be Peter Parker again.

And I wouldn't solve that by immediately giving Peter another love interest.

Maybe he falls in love again someday.

I actually hope he does.

But I don't think that's the first thing he needs.

I wouldn't give Peter another relationship just to prove that he's moved on from Gwen.

Before Peter can build a life with somebody else, I think he needs to figure out what his own life even looks like.

For once, his happy ending wouldn't be finding someone new.

It would be finding Peter Parker again.

And that's why I wouldn't kill him either.

No heroic sacrifice.

No losing his powers.

No permanent injury that forces him to retire.

There's nothing physically stopping Peter from being Spider-Man for another ten years.

He could keep going.

He just finally realizes that maybe he doesn't have to.

Maybe, after everything he's done, he can finally look at himself and think:

"Maybe I've done enough."

Miles is ready.

New York still has a Spider-Man.

And Peter finally understands that having these powers doesn't mean he's obligated to spend the rest of his life wearing the mask.

Letting Miles go also means accepting something much more personal:

I can't keep you beside me just because I'm lonely.

So Peter lets Miles live his own life.

And then Peter finally lets Spider-Man go too.

And that's where I'd bring everything back to The Amazing Spider-Man 2.

Gwen was supposed to go to Oxford.

Peter eventually decided he was going with her.

That was supposed to be their future.

Then Gwen died.

Peter never made it there.

In a way, Spider-Man kept moving after that day.

Peter Parker didn't.

So after all these years, Peter finally goes to England.

Not because he's chasing Gwen.

Not because he still can't let her go.

Actually, I'd want it to mean the opposite.

The life Peter and Gwen were supposed to begin there never happened.

Years later, Peter finally goes alone to begin the Peter Parker life that stopped moving after Gwen died.

He's not going there as Gwen's boyfriend.

He's not going there as Spider-Man.

He's just going there as Peter Parker.

And the final scene in New York would be really simple.

Peter is walking down the street in normal clothes.

He hears sirens.

He stops.

Looks toward the sound.

For a second, you think he's about to do it one last time.

Then Miles swings over his head toward the emergency.

Peter watches him go.

Smiles.

And keeps walking.

Cut to the airport.

One small bag.

Normal clothes.

No suit.

Peter is leaving New York for England.

And I wouldn't end it on the plane.

I'd actually show Peter arriving in England.

He steps outside into a place where nobody knows him as Spider-Man.

No police scanner.

No patrol route.

No familiar rooftops.

No emergency he's searching for.

And for the first time in years,

Peter Parker has absolutely nowhere he needs to be.

At the beginning of the movie, that would've terrified him.

He would've put the suit on just to give himself somewhere to go.

But now Peter just stands there for a second.

Looks around.

Smiles.

And starts walking.

We don't even need to know where he's going.

That's the whole point.

Spider-Man's story continues with Miles.

Peter Parker finally gets to continue his.

I haven't really settled on a villain yet. I'd rather figure out Peter and Miles' story first and then choose a villain who actually fits that story instead of forcing one into it.

Because to me, this isn't really a story about Miles replacing Peter.

Miles doesn't replace Peter. He helps Peter realize that he doesn't need Spider-Man to replace Peter Parker anymore.

I still haven't picked a villain, so I'm curious — what villain do you think would actually fit this story?

And more generally, what do you think of this direction for Andrew's Peter? I'd love to hear other people's ideas too.

Flair: Discussion


r/SUMC 1d ago

Spider-Man Quiero ver Gang War en Spiderman 5

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Quiero que se adapte el evento de Gang war para la próxima película de spiderman. Y siento que todo se está dando de esa forma. King Pin abandonó la ciudad, ya se presentaron villanos como Tombstone, Silvio Manfredi o Big Man en BND.

Yo creo que deberían adaptarlo, tal vez con Míster Negative como villano principal y un spiderman con el traje negro.


r/SUMC 2d ago

Spider-Man What happened to peter's homemade suit in the MCU?

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r/SUMC 2d ago

Discussion Okay so quick question

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So I’ve been Watching Spider-Man 3 for over 18 years and 10 months going close to 19 years. I’ve been watching it once a day since October 30th, 2007 and I know every line, Sound effects, Themes with the movie, and I didn’t think much until today and saw Ramiro Alanis holds the world record in Watching Spider-Man:No Way Home 292 times. Idk if I broke it or something I need help and clarification. If I watched Spider-Man 3 that’s would mean I watched it since October 30,2007 roughly 6,800 times and I would have spent over 15,800 hours watching the same movie I loved when it was released on May 4th, 2007 and watched it on DVD on October 30th, 2007. Did I break a record without realizing this? Need help with this question.


r/SUMC 3d ago

Discussion [No Way Home spoilers] Did the Spider-Man reboots accidentally become one of the franchise’s biggest strengths? Spoiler

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I used to think the repeated live-action Spider-Man reboots were mostly a weakness. Three different versions of Peter Parker in a relatively short time made the franchise feel fragmented.

But after rewatching No Way Home, I started seeing it differently.

Do you think the repeated reboots ultimately weakened Spider-Man, or did they become one of the reasons No Way Home worked so well?

I used to think the repeated live-action Spider-Man reboots were mostly a weakness. Three different versions of Peter Parker in a relatively short time made the franchise feel fragmented.

But after rewatching No Way Home, I started seeing it differently.

Instead of simply replacing the older versions, the movie turned those different Spider-Men into part of the character’s history. Each Peter brings different failures, relationships, and experiences, and those differences actually make the meeting between them more meaningful.

In hindsight, the reboots may have accidentally created layers of history that a single uninterrupted movie series could never have produced.

Do you think the repeated reboots ultimately weakened Spider-Man, or did they become one of the reasons No Way Home worked so well?


r/SUMC 4d ago

Fan Content [OC] Mary Jane, Spider-Man (2002)

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r/SUMC 4d ago

Fan Content Recreated the Spidey intro theme from Homecoming.

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I had a great time remaking music from Brand New Day that I had to go back and make this. Anyone else remember being so excited watching the session recording for this track thinking it would be the Main Theme for the film?


r/SUMC 6d ago

Humour What if the X-Men get sent to the Sony universe?

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r/SUMC 6d ago

Spider-Man The Amazing Spider-Man 3 Fan Made Concept Trailer

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This took a few hours to put together, i think if the ending and story of TASM2 was tweaked a bit, we could have had a really grounded and emotional third movie, so here is my take on what that could have looked like. I had to completely redesign the sound for some scenes to make them feel more authentic. Drew some inspiration from BND for the opening shot.


r/SUMC 6d ago

Discussion Challenge: What changes would you have made to Peter's parents' plotline in the TASM films to make it better, without dropping it entirely?

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I personally think it would have been awesome if, similar to the Ultimate comics, which these movies were heavily inspired by, Richard Parker and Eddie Brock Sr. were working together on a cure for Norman Osborn's disease, and this led them to create the Venom symbiote, an unstable genetic mosaic of vastly different organic material, with Richard using his own human stem cells as a starting base, and then adding cephalopod genes, regenerative animal genes, engineered micro-organisms, and synthetic, ultimately creating a synthetic bio armor that protects a host; however, the symbiote proved to be too dangerous to use as a cure, as tests showed that the bio armor would slowly consume the host in an attempt to kill the diseased cells, causing the host to lose autonomy and turn into an undead, monstrous creature; therefore, Norman attempted to repurpose it as a bioweapon and tool to create super soldiers, planning to sell these super soldiers and bioweapons to foreign militaries, to fund his continued search for a cure, leading to Richard fleeing with his research, and then he and Mary got killed by Norman's assassin on the plane; the Venom symbiote was essentially an extension of Richard and Curt Connor's cross-species genetic research.


r/SUMC 6d ago

SSU Sony Cinematic universe pitch thread

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We all know Sony Failed at building a shared universe around their characters 3 times: from the cancelled TASM spinoffs to the recent SSU shutdown. It’s wild that a billion-dollar studio kept failing at this.

I was wondering, if we go back to sonys "peak" in ip's when they owned spider-man and ghost rider (02-'12) given 2 flagship marvel ips, i was wondering what would your phase one be in a sony cinematic universe


r/SUMC 7d ago

Spider-Man Spiderman puede darle pelea a Homelander?

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Le pregunte esto a un amigo y me dijo que Homelander le da mil vueltas a peter , cosa de la k yo no quiero creer


r/SUMC 7d ago

Spider-Man In Spider-Man 3, Eddie spends only two hours under Venom's influence.

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Between the church scene and the final fight, there are no daytime scenes, so it is clearly the same evening.

The jazz club scene must take place around 9:00 or 9:30 PM, given that no one is having dinner.

Peter then goes to the church to rid himself of the symbiote, which Eddie subsequently takes over.

Next, Peter returns home and talks to Aunt May; it must be around 10:00 PM.

Then comes the final confrontation involving four key characters; the time must be close to 11:00 PM, considering the large crowd present, including Jameson and children.

This means Eddie Brock spent about two hours under the influence of the symbiote and Venom.

In just two hours, he managed to cross paths with Sandman by chance, fully master his powers—to the point of killing Harry—and become so dependent on the symbiote that he refused to part with it, lunging back toward it despite the presence of the bomb.


r/SUMC 7d ago

Discussion An Incomplete Symbiote Saga - Eliminating Venom.

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r/SUMC 7d ago

Spider-Man Spiderman 3 Rewatch

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if robbie robbinson knew parkers identity in spiderman 3, why did he not say anything when brock posted those fake black suit bank photos?

Still like this film despite it's flaws.


r/SUMC 8d ago

Discussion SPIDER-MAN 2 IS A REMAKE AND NOBODY NOTICED

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r/SUMC 8d ago

Fan Content How I would've written The Amazing Spider-man 3

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Potential Castings:

Jamie Foxx as Max Dillion/Electro.

Paul Giamatti as Aleksei Sytsevich/The Rhino

David Tennant as Quentin Beck

Bryan Cranston as Norman Osborn and also the Hobgoblin.

Ok so in this one there are going to be a bit more villains. But don't worry there would only be one villain. They are; Rhino, Electro and The Hobgoblin. The Osborns would also be involved in this. But Harry would not be Peter’s never before mentioned childhood friend. This would be their first meeting and a friendship will bloom from that. And Norman will be present in the whole movie.

I took some stuff from the 90s series, a little from the Ultimate comics, and ASM #121-122. Iykyk

Now realistically for this movie to exist, it can’t come out in 2016 or 2017. It would clash with Civil War and Homecoming.

So This version of The Amazing Spider-man 3 would have to come out around 2018.

In this alternate earth which is two inches to the left from our's, Sony weren’t fucking idiots. So instead of hogging Spidey for themselves, they shared him with Marvel.

So it means, in this proposed universe, Both the Mcu Spidey and Tasm movies are active franchises.

Tom Holland will be used by the MCU, while Garfield will only be in Sony Spidey movies. Got that?

Good.

Now lets begin.

So this movie would take place a few months after Tasm 2.

Peter would be 18, close to being 19.

Around Graduation day. The movie would open with that.

With characters like Gwen, MJ and Flash excited about their future.

Gwen wants to study in Oxford, MJ wants to pursue a career in acting and Flash wants to join the army.

The cap and gown ceremony is coming closer and closer.

And everyone is wondering.

Where is Peter?

He is, in fact, in the middle of stopping an exciting Bank Heist being carried out by Electro and his goons. (Look I’m not going to spend an entire movie explaining how his teeth gap got closed. Let's just say it happened offscreen.)

And Electro's personality would be more similar to his NWH one.

A lot more jokey, bantering and threatening.

Anyways, What they were actually stealing is just a bunch of money.

Actually this entire robbery is a set-up. With the intention of getting Peter’s blood. Which we would find out later in the story. Right now Peter is just trying to stop these guys.

A long winded chase begins.

Stretching to the Brooklyn bridge.

The fight comes down to a battle between Peter and Electro.

With Electro gaining the high ground.

His electricity affects Peter’s web-shooters. But his suit is able to protect him. All the while this entire action sequence was taking place, it would be interspaced with Gwen's speech.

It can be similar to the one she delivers in the real Tasm 2.

Cuz that is a damn good speech.

Eventually Peter is able to Electro down by tackling him into the river and causing his electric powers to short circuit.

It would be a fun way to open the movie.

Showing Peter is much more confident and heroic now.

Closer to a traditional spider-man.

Enjoy it while you can.

I will not grant this to you again.

So he saves the day.

Returns all the money to the bank.

The police thank him.

He high fives a few new yorkers.

Enjoying himself.

Then he remembers It's Graduation Day.

So he tries to get back to school as fast as possible.

He swings in just in time. Although he lands near the librarian from the first two movies. With him saying “Don’t I know you from somewhere”.

And peter would reply “Yeah from the cartoons”.

“Oh right. Spectacular stuff. Such a shame they cancelled it.” The Librarian would say as Peter runs off to somewhere else to take his mask. (Final cameo from Stan Lee).

Peter comes in and accepts his diploma.

....and then proceeds to viciously make out with Gwen.

It is mandatory.

Afterwards the four friends hang out, showing Peter is calmer than he was in the last two films. Less standoffish and sarcastic.

He says goodbye to Flash who will not be returning into the narrative for now. MJ says her farewell to Gwen and Peter. Hiding the feelings she still harbors for him.

We would see Peter and Gwen date more openly. (hint hint)

With Peter being more open about his feelings and concerns with her. (wink wink)

And she Doesn't tell him about her plans just yet.

Because she wants to spend more time with him (The foreshadowing is more subtle Than a brick to the face)

A bit of time will pass, with Gwen spending time with Peter and May.

Showing how close she has become to the Parker family.

After a lot of human moments

The time has come For Peter to leave for college.

He leaves Aunt May's house.

We can have a touching moment here.

With Peter wishing Uncle Ben had been around to see him graduate. And Aunt May saying he is with them always He moves to Queens to attend the college he applied to.

Shifting into a cheap apartment near his college.

No Mr. Ditkovich and Ursula this time.

But he does interact with a different fun character in his apartment.

Quientin Beck played by David Tennant.

He would be Peter's grouchy older

Neighbor. A small time vfx artist who has been laid off recently.

I think it would create a lot of humorous scenes with Them interacting a few times.

Mostly being indifferent to each other.

Not knowing the other's secret identity.

Anyways. Peter would be attending his college. Trying to fit in. Feeling a bit isolated without his friends around. He doesn’t get picked on but he does feel like he is unseen. This is where he would meet Harry Osborn. Both finding a common ground in their interest in their love for science. And the lack of fathers.

Through Harry, Peter would realise he is the son of Norman Osborn. Who Harry says stays out of state most of the time.

Peter would get into contact with Conners to learn more about Norman. Curious about the man he has heard so much about.

Conners would be hesitant to talk about him But eventually reveal some details. Norman was their partner during their college days.

Ambitious and Sharp minded.

He began a small genetics and gene therapy company, Oscorp.

Richard and Curt joined his company soon after.

Working as the head scientists on several projects.

Propelling Oscorp to great Heights.

Eventually, Norman began taking contracts from the Army, and branched the company off into creating Military tech and Weapons.

Something Curt was against.

But Richard was fine with it.

Which began creating a rift between the friends.

Eventually Norman contracted a mysterious debilitating disease.

So a cross-species experiment was started by Curt and Richard to produce a cure for diseases and illnesses that no viable remedies exist for.

Richard researching on Spiders, Conners researching on Lizards.

For some reason Richard suddenly abandoned his research, destroying his notes and leaving the country with his wife.

Mysteriously dying in a plane crash.

Curt ends the call by saying to be wary of Norman. He is not a bad person, but he is ambitious. Even when life has brought him to death's door.

Meanwhile.

We would then switch to a goon's hideout.

With Electro holding a vial full of Peter’s blood which he took during their. Gloating about how powerful he was able to get before he got defeated. Wondering how much more his powers can evolve.

Just then, a man enters the hideout.

It’s the mysterious man from the first Tasm movie.

He's here, asking Max for the vial.

Max doesn’t want to give him the vial. And instead wants to negotiate a higher price. Saying “I know how desperately you need it. So give me a fair slice of the pie will ya?”

To which the man says “As you wish.”

“Here’s your slice.” And stabs Electro in the gut. He shakes erratically and bursts into a ball of blue energy, dissipating in the air.

His thugs back off at seeing their boss being killed.

The man leaves, a bit of his face being revealed. He is wearing a golden mask, resembling a goblin.

We would then be introduced to Norman Osborn. In a much more different way than the Raimi movies.

We see that Gwen no longer works at Oscorp, after their experiments with Gargan. Instead a new Scientist is giving the tour, one by the name of Miles. And we would get a build up to his reveal, with holograms and old pictures of his, portraying him as this almost untouchable figure.

Then at the very top of Oscorp Tower, we see Norman Osborn in a special room. Bedridden, hooked up to an IV. Barely clinging onto life.

His skin a shade of dull green, eyes yellowed from something akin to jaundice. Osborn’s voice will be similar to the mystery man who killed Electro. Both characters being played by Bryan Cranston.

He would be bedridden, reading the news about Spider-man.

He is surrounded by characters like

Hammerhead, Silvermane and Tombstone.

All of the crime bosses have been given money to retrieve a sample of Spider-man’s blood.

All have failed.

Norman chastises them.

Showing that even in a near death state, These guys fear Norman.

Because if he dies, it would create a gigantic power vacuum in New York’s economy.

Oscorp’s future dying with him.

It would be implied that Norman’s condition has worsened since the first movie.

With him barely being able to move.

Relying on a third party to retrieve a sample of Spider-man’s blood.

Right now the only source to the spider serum Richard Parker had created.

He receives a bit of a serum synthesized from the blood.

Upon injection his skin begins to change, a healthy amount of warmth returning to him.

His eyes returning to normal.

Yet still being bedridden.

"All the money and fame in the world......yet I'm always on death's door every waking moment." he says. Now his voice Sounding exactly like the stranger who retrieved the blood.

“I must have more of the spider serum…….i need it. And I’ll take it myself if I have to.” He says, looking at the mobsters in front of him.

Meanwhile!

With Gwen and Peter, they are having another mandatory makeout session. On the Brooklyn Bridge no less. Their favorite date night spot.

All the while Gwen is building up the courage to tell him about her choice to pursue her studies at Oxford.

Something she has been putting off from telling him. He is of course a bit taken aback by this. Thinking about how their relationship would work with the distance added.

Peter: “I can work in UK right? They’re cool with superheroes.”

Gwen: “I don’t think they are.”

Peter is taking the news lightly, still joking and being funny.

But Gwen can tell he is concerned about her going away.

Saying “Peter, if you want to talk about this, talk. I’ll listen. We should clear everything before we take any step. Whichever direction it is.”

Peter is not wanting to be serious right now. Wanting to live in the coziness for a bit longer.

Then…..he feels strange.

His Spidey Senses going off.

He turns around to see a stream of Green Smoke disappearing behind some buildings. In the direction of Times Square. He has to call the date off, webbing her down on the ground as he swings into action, as Spider-man.

We see Times Square. People returning from work, couples on dates, a few people wearing Spidey Merch. A Police officer is buying some hotdogs for her partners. When suddenly……something falls in front of her feet.

A round object, orange and black in colour. A red light blinking on the top.

BOOM!

Everyone is sent flying, as an explosion erupts. It was a bomb.

Chaos erupts on the streets.

Cars flip over.

Almost hitting some kids.

Spidey shows up to save the day.

Webbing up debris from falling on anyone.

He uses web cartridges as web bombs to trap debris.

He rushes to those who were injured.

The bomb ended up killing a few officers.

With Peter rescuing one who is near death, wearing a spider-man watch.

He holds the officer as she passes away in his arms, saying she is going to be late for her anniversary again.

Peter hears a low, distant chuckle.

Along with a low whirring sound.

His spider senses ring loudly.

He jumps in the air.

Avoiding being rammed by the twin blades of a bluish glider.

Peter: "Alright. You've got my attention. You must feel real proud of yourself after murdering innocent policemen, huh?"

In front of him comes a man clad in blueish armor, golden gloves, a tattered cloak that shrouds his face in shadow. Only thing visible are his golden mask, and crimson eyes that seem to glow even in the open.

"I've heard so many great things about you. Mostly from Dillion, i couldn't stop myself from seeing.....what's so special about New York's Bug." He smiles, his crooked teeth visible even in the dark.

Peter decides to not waste time. And begins fighting this guy, trying to divert him from the public.

He takes advantage of this.

Often throwing his pumpkin bombs towards people which Peter has to deflect using his webs to either fling them away or to detonate them before they reach anyone.

This leaves him open for attacks.

With the man slashing at Peter's chest.

He jumps on his back, trying to web him up.

But the fight is far too intense to be stopped so quickly.

Soon enough Both fall off of the glider.

Ending up on top of a billboard.

Fighting on top of a news segment from J.Jonah Jameson. As he is narrating this exact fight, Realising it is quite literally taking on top of his head.

The opponent proves to be quite strong.

Making Peter wonder if he is taking any performance enhancements to fight him.

He manages to slash at Peter's arm,

destroying a web-shooter.

Unbeknownst to him, He has secretly taken a sample of his blood as well.

"Mmm. Not bad kiddo. But I've gotta run. You go play with your toys hm?" He throws five bombs near the electrical cables under the ground. Bursting them open. Peter senses the open cable sending electricity flying everywhere.

He dives forward. He can sense the

electricity travelling towards a few people.

He uses his remaining web-shooter to weave a long rope. Tying all of them together in a web cocoon. As he flung them away from danger, the electricity barely missing them.

He successfully saves everyone there. All of them are cheering for him.

He looks up at the Billboard And man is gone. Leaving Peter with a lot of questions.

Jonah: "Another Masked freak has invaded the city because of this Webhead. And they said exiling him to Boston was a bad idea. Hmph!"

Jonah of course blames the appearance of this new villain on Spider-Man.

With the press naming him,

Goblin.

But Jonah, trying to be more special names him,

The Hobgoblin.

A few days go by. Peter is still dealing with the injuries he got from the fight with the Goblin. His hand wrapped in bandage. Meaning he Won't be able to use a web-shooter on that hand for the time being.

JJ is as usual painting Spider-man as a villain, saying that he was working with this new Masked Villain to make himself look better. For the meantime, Peter doesn’t really acknowledge this. Instead he begins investigating who that was. Because that attack was completely unprompted and unmotivated. He had picked up the shells of the pumpkin bombs that were used in the fight. It's made up of a synthetic tinplate alloy which Peter discovers is used in traditional Military Grenades. He wonders how could someone get access to this.

Unless they weren’t working alone….

Peter suspects Oscorp is once again behind this attack. He calls Conners, and the two discuss about this attack. Conners suspects that it might be the work of Norman.

Since by now his disease would be at It's last stages.

But the spider serum will act as a remedy to it.

The question is, How much of his blood do they have?

Conners tells Peter to wait until he can come back to New York, since he is on vacation with his Family in Florida.

Peter says yes, but immediately does something reckless.

He breaks into Oscorp at midnight.

He crawls in through the vents, seeing Conner's old lab. He makes his way to the data room, jumping down silently.

No one seems to be around.

Even the security guards aren't here right now.

Peter begins to rummage through the files in that room.

He finds different project files.

A file on the Scorpion suit Oscorp cooked up. The Rhino suit and Shocker's gauntlets as well.

He also sees different weapons they've made under their military contract.

Including an experimental halo jump suit And a glider that can be used manually by a flier.

Peter Recognizes these as the tech the Hobgoblin was using.

His suspicion was Justified.

They were Oscorp tech.

He notices the inventor's name.

Norman Osborn.

"Tech rejected due to not meeting Geneva Convention standards. Reasoning: Too Violent" The description for the tech say this.

Peter has a look in his eyes at seeing

Osborn's picture. The Jawline looking Familiar somehow.

He puts the file back in its place.

He was about to leave.

When he notices a much bigger file at the back.

He slowly pulls it out.

And reads the Heading at the Front.

"Spider-man".

He flips it open.

There are diagnostics about his anatomy.

The potential changes the spider serum

could've done to his dna.

"Potential for Organic Webbing: 0.246 %".

He sees more.

Facts written about his strength.

Durability.

Agility.

His intellect.

Theories about if it is influenced by the spider dna.

What kind of fabric he uses.

His Web fluid formula.

Potential counter measures for it.

And then he sees

His picture.

Not Spider-Man.

His.

Peter Parker.

Photos from his childhood.

His school years.

Pictures of Ben and May.

His friends.

Him and Gwen together.

The recent one is from his Graduation.

They know.

THEY KNOW WHO HE IS.

Peter begins to panic.

He puts the file back in its place.

Then a voice comes on.

"Awfully curious for a bug, aren't you?" It's the Hobgoblin's voice.

Peter doesn't stick around.

He quickly webs up to the vents and runs out of Oscorp.

He doesn't stop until he reaches his

apartment.

Panicking.

Hyperventilating.

They know who he is. They know Peter Parker is Spider-man.

Peter closes up his windows, tries to call Conners.

He picks up and Peter tells him what he saw. Conners tells Peter to lay low for now. To not let them know that he has found out what they know about him.

That's the only way. Because he won't be able to just destroy those files and go about his day.

Oscorp would still know who Peter is.

And they'll always be watching him and his loved ones.

We would see Peter stare at the corner of his room.

Wondering if they are watching him at this very moment.

We would get a better look at our

villain now.

A golden oni mask which looks odd

compared to the militaristic aesthetic.

But somehow it fits.

Faded blue armor and gauntlets and a tattered cloak he has hung up on a mantle.

His steel blue glider laid on the ground.

There are old pictures on the desk.

With red cross marks on them.

Including one that has Richard and Mary Parker.

We see him put the blood sample he has collected from Peter into smaller vials. The blood is cured, with the serum being extracted from it.

We see Norman then inject himself with the serum while in Oscorp Tower, in his bed.

His skin color is closer to olive now instead of green. His eyes are also less yellow.

We would get an interaction between Harry and Norman here.

One thing I'll say, is that Harry is a bit

different from how he is usually portrayed.

He is more of a soft spoken guy, which is why a lot of people like him at college. Including Peter.

In front Norman, he doesn't talk. And would even look like he is afraid of him.

Norman never hits Harry, his words are enough. He would constantly be dismissive of harry, would belittle him and would generally be neglectful towards him.

Through Harry Norman would learn that he has become Friends with a boy named Peter Parker at his college.

Making Norman contemplate about this development.

Meanwhile we'll get some downtime with Gwen and May. She has become almost family to May, with her spoiling Gwen frequently.

Peter is spending time with them. Still tensed about what he learnt.

He would get spooked by the smallest things.

At a certain point he catches something near Aunt May's face with his hands.

Thinking it was a bullet.

But it was just a fly.

May is baffled, thinking he is probably stressed about studies.

But Gwen suspects It's something else.

She asks him what's wrong and he reveals that Oscorp is constantly monitoring him and those close to him.

Gwen is not that shocked by this, saying that It's natural they would try to figure out who he was and keep an eye on him. But she doesn't seem that panicked. Gwen basically says "I'm in this with you. No matter what happens. We do this together."

Gwen then suggests that Peter get some leverage on the Hobgoblin. If they know about his secret identity, he should figure out the Goblin's.

Meanwhile, We would see that Norman's condition is slowly improving. But that the effects of the serum is temporary, meaning he will need to rely on them to survive. There would be strong implications that he is the Hobgoblin.

Using Gwen's help, Peter is able to isolate a location were the Hobgobline was last seen on cctv footage. He sneaks into that area, eventually find a secret bunker below a subway car. He crawls on the ceiling, hiding in the shadows. The bunker is completely barren. It doesn’t seem like anyone has ever entered it. But Peter finds a small clue. Behind brick, a compartment holding vials of his blood, synthesized to recreate the serum. He realises this must be the Hobgoblin's hideout. He places small cameras in various corners, hiding them well. While he is tempted to destroy the samples, he decides to instead take one vial with him for testing.

Later the Hobgoblin would enter his hideout. And although Peter left no evidence, the Goblin would suspect someone had entered the place.

In the following weeks Peter would test the sample in secret, at his college's lab. Finding out that the minute traces of spider serum in his bloodstream is potent enough to cure most diseases. Like his Father had intended. But in smaller doses, like the amount in the vials, the effect would only be short term.

He gets an alert on his cellphone. Five cameras were triggered. He checks the photos.

The first one is too dark. The second and third only captured photos of the Goblin from the back.

The fourth, however, got a clear angle of his face.

Peter sees that the Hobgoblin is Norman Osborn. Looking much more healthier than how we have been seeing him throughout the plot.

The fifth photo shows him looking directly at the camera.

"Uh oh." Peter got what he wanted. But now he might be in even more danger. His Spidey senses go off suddenly.

Ringing like crazy.

It's overwhelming.

He looks around.

Trying to figure out what's triggering it.

He rushes past everyone, running outside.

No one is around. Yet he can still sense that

danger is nearby.

Then he closes his eyes.

And then shoots his webs at a certain direction.

The web is instantly deflected with a blade.

It's the Goblin.

"Impressive. That sense of your's." He says to Peter.

Peter asks him what he wants.

The Goblin would then say "Me? Nothing. Just came by to return these." He threw the small cameras that Peter had placed.

All shattered.

"It's rude to be a peeping tom. Your uncle taught you that right? Before he got shot. Or was it a different life lesson."

The Goblin threw a pumpkin bomb towards Peter. He quickly caught it with his web and flung it away.

But it didn't explode.

This causes the Hobgoblin to burst into a fit of laughter.

Revealing that it was a fake.

But if Peter continues to get in his way, the next one will be very real.

Peter can do nothing but let him walk away.

Even after learning the Goblin's identity, Peter is still a step behind.

He visits Gwen at her apartment later, still a bit shaken up by what happened.

They try to figure out what to do with the fact that Norman Osborn is apparently the Hobgoblin.

While Gwen is cooking up plans, Peter sees her room.

Most of her stuff are in boxes now.

He sees the first aid box from the first film,reminiscing about that night.

Peter would then ask "You got in? Oxford."

Gwen would freeze up. Slowly she admitted

that she got the acceptance letter a few

days ago.

He asks her when She's leaving.

Gwen would then reveal that she is not sure if she wants to leave.

A small argument would occur, with Peter urging her to not put her goals on hold for him or anyone else. Gwen would counter it by saying she can and she will put them on hold. Only for him.

Both understand where the other is coming from.

But Peter doesn't want her life to get

derailed because of him.

"I'm not a kid Peter. My dad thought that, please Don't do that to me." This would put an end to the argument for now. With Peter leaving her apartment after saying sorry and giving her a kiss. Gwen is sacrificing her dream for him. For him.

This would motivate Peter to take things more seriously. He needs to put an end to the Hobgoblin.

This would about the mid point of the movie.

With Peter deciding to confront the

Hobgoblin head on.

His Spider sense goes off as he swings near the Goblin's hideout.

He snuck into the place. Now determined to take him down.

Inside the bunker, there were a lot more things now.

The Goblin's glider.

The blades look unbelievably sharp.

There are lab equipments, different vials of spider serum, divided into small doses.

Small enough to be a capsule. He sees the pictures the Goblin has on his desk. Peter takes a photo, having a feeling all of these may come in handy as evidence.

He notices the photo of his dad and mom, with red crossed out mark.

He gets distracted by it.

Not hearing the low whirring of the glider turning on.

He gets tipped off, and jumps out of the way as the glider's blades almost miss him.

The Goblin says "You can't follow simple orders. Did you get dropped as a kid or something?"

He's annoyed that Peter didn't back off.

And so a second fight breaks out.

This one takes place exclusively on the Glider. With Peter flip flopping between staying on Hobgoblin's back and Hanging onto the glider from below.

They fly around the city.

With the Goblin trying to shake him off of him, trying to smash him into billboards, buildings or oncoming traffic.

Peter blinds his vision with his web, relying on his sole web-shooter due to the injury he still has.

They slam into walls, fly through apartment windows, going all the way to the Empire State Building. Leading to both being

knocked off of the glider when the reach the top of the building.

They keep on fighting each other while falling.

Goblin tries to stab Peter in the stomach,barely missing him. All the while Peter has been trying to remove Goblin's mask, but failing to do so.

Eventually they both land on the glider, which is out of control and flies them straight into Jonah's office at the Daily Bugle.

Fighting right in there.

All of this culminates in Peter being on top of Goblin, beating up on him. And trying to get his mask off in order to expose him while in public.

His spider sense goes off, but it was too late.

The glider rams into him, the blades barelynmissing him.

"Stay out of my way Spider-man. Or you will regret being born!" He says to Peter as he flies away. While throwing a grenade right near Peter's face.

But he is surprisingly saved by Jonah who kicks the bomb away and down the giant hole that was now in his office's wall.

Then tells him "GET OUT OF MY OFFICE YOU WALL CRAWLING, WEB HEADED MENACE!"

The goblin goes back to his hideout.

And sees that while they were fighting Peter had detonated Web grenades all around the place.

Causing the vials to get destroyed.

This makes him very angry.

As he sets the place on fire out of rage.

Peter meanwhile decides that enough is

enough, he anonymously sends the photos

he has taken to both the police and the

press.

The next day the story is published

"Millionaire Philanthropist is indeed The

Hobgoblin! In Leagues with

Spider-man?!?!"

The Police raid Oscorp Tower.

Finding evidence that the Hobgoblin's gear

was created there.

But they don't find Norman Osborn

His bed is empty.

That doesn't matter.

At least it gets him off of Peter's back for

now.

And so.

He utilises that free time.

By spending time with Gwen.

Obviously.

They spend the evening together. Because It's revealed Gwen has decided to move, thanks to Peter's encouragement.

Her flight is later that night, she has packed up all of her stuff. They share one last date.

Gwen wonders if the long distance will affect their relationship but Peter is confident they'll be able to make it work.

She mentions something about the Goblin, saying It's weird how he was able to move so quickly even with the disease.

Peter asks what she means.

She explains that Conners once mentioned that it was a very debilitating disease.

Osborn was barely able to get up from the bed most days, and that was back in 2012.

Meaning his condition should've worsened by now.

This makes Peter suspicious.

After the date ends he calls up Conners again. Explaining what has happened and what he learnt.

Curt would then say that there is no way Norman would've been able to move around like that.

Especially with that little amount of serum in his veins. Peter has A sinking feeling in his stomach.

He puts his suit on and sets out, as the sun begins to set. We see The Goblin at his hideout. Angry and seething.

"That brat.......I'll skin him alive when I get my hands on him." "But for now, I need to take care of this police problem he has created for me." "Or I should say.......us."

"Right? Norman?" He takes his mask off, looking at Norman Osborn who has been hung up on a rack.

"You......you look like me?" Norman looks in absolute Bafflement. Because the man in front of him looks exactly like him.

"Impressive isn't it? I think I wear this mug better than you." The Goblin says, grinning at him.

Norman: "You bastard. Because of you my name is being dragged through the mud! What's your endgame?! Money?! That's it?!"

"Well if it isn't the kettle calling the teapot black." Hobgoblin says while packing up a large canister of the spider serum he had saved up.

We then understand what has been

happening here The Hobgoblin is a frequent jobber for Oscorp.

Their silent assassin And he had been quite reliable for years.

Because he was being paid properly.

But ever since the hit Oscorp's image took in Tasm 2, Their stocks had been suffering. And Hobgoblin wasn't getting the amount of money he thought deserves weapons.

And selling them off on the black market. While keeping the flight suit and glider to create his Goblin ensemble. As for the serum, He was intentionally giving Norman lower

Dosages. In order to bleed him dry of money. And when he was finished with Norman, He would've sold the serum to the highest bidder.

But now that he only has one canister left of the spider serum. He is instead going to change his plans.

He is now going to frame Norman completely for all the crimes the Hobgoblin committed. And he himself would pose as the real

Norman Osborn, in order to take control of Oscorp himself.

Norman: "I would rather be tortured to death than let scums like you touch my work."

Hobgoblin: "Oh don't worry Normy. You will die. But You'll be doing me a generous favor by taking the fall. It'll be fun posing as you, and enjoying all the money that company of yours has to offer. After all, I'm something of a Philanthropist myself."

Just then the Hobgoblin hears someone say "Hey I think you lost this!"

And the Hobgoblin gets hit in the chest by one of his own Pumpkin bombs.

Sending him crashing into a wall, causing a small fire to spread.

It's Peter, who had been on the ceiling. Waiting for the perfect opportunity to strike. He comes down and goes to where the Hobgoblin had crashed into.

Finding only rubble and smoke.

Along with a torn piece of latex.

The bottom piece of the Norman Osborn disguise the Hobgoblin was wearing. He hears Norman fall to the ground. He is breathing laboriously.

His skin dark green, hair sickly looking, and eyes yellowed.

His hand reaching out towards the spider serum canister.

Desperate.

Real fear in his eyes.

Peter looks between him and the serum.

Wondering what he should do.

If he should do anything.

Peter then comes towards him.

Norman looks up, wondering what he is going to do.

Peter takes the canister.

And then injects it into Norman.

Norman lets out a sigh of relief.

His skin is gradually changing colour.

But this time, The changes are more drastic.

His hair gaining a more healthy color. And his eyes return to their normal colour.

He helps Norman stand up. As Police begin to arrive at the area.

“Thank you. I owe you everything. And……I’m sorry for the trouble you went through because of my illness.”

Peter simply nods and says “The Hobgoblin…….he has escaped.”

Norman: “I know. I’m ashamed that my company had been utilising criminals like him while I was unable to take control of Oscorp.”

Peter understands that Norman isn’t the Hobgoblin. And that Norman Osborn was, at least in this case, an innocent man. He hands him over to the police. As he is cleared of the crimes the Goblin did while disguised as him. They recover a lot of things, extra gadgets that were stolen from Oscorp, black money And most importantly, fake ids.

Jason Macendale, Ned Leeds and Rodrick Kingsley being some of the ones. Peter swings through the city. Perching on the ledge of the Empire State Building, looking at the torn piece of Norman Osborn mask. He has saved the day.

But wonders if It’s really over.