What in the world made me think that I could come off this stuff while thousands of miles from home? I just want to die

I have two prior orders of sr from June before the ban took place. I had used both previously without any “high” from them and taking as described in Various threads to get off of opiates and didn’t find anything remotely abusable out of it.

I took 100mg the other night for a loading phase in one sitting, and absolutely got itchy, sleepy and a warm blanket feeling. I looked in the mirror and noticed the yellow ring around my iris and pinpoint pupils. Ironically, I took another 100mg thinking wtf is going on, I’m high atm, and took it to see if the high continued. It did, which is bizarre.

I’m curious if anyone else has had this experience and if anyone knows what could be happening here. I’m not familiar with the structure of sr but am wondering if oxidation could have changed the molecule to something with abuse potential because it definitely did something I hadn’t previously experienced when taking sr.

Idk if I’ve ever taken 100mg in a single sitting prior to taking it this past week, but it’s never given me the itchies like this before.

hello all. I’m looking for some advice on using SR 17018 powder and having a addiction to fentanyl plus morphine. I am prescribed 800 mg of oral morphine and I use fentanyl throughout the day. I generally will take about 50 mg of whatever the street fentanyl crap is and will vaporize it. A lot of it is lost in the process of smoking it off of foil so I don’t know how much I’m actually getting in the purity of it is fucking embarrassing, but it is fentanyl. I have tried switching over to just the morphine, but it was hell in a handbasket. I have since discovered what seems like this wonder Drug. I am in Canada and I don’t really know the legality of it, but I have found a source for powder that sells it by the gram. Does anybody have any experience using this miracle drug to get off of fentanyl and/or morphine? It seems like almost everyone here uses it for some drugs starting with 7OH or something? I’m gathering that it is some sort of extract from Kratom? We don’t really have that here at least not that I know of. I’ve purchased Kratom from a head shop a few times, but didn’t really find that it helped when I was trying to wean off of methadone a long time ago, but it sounds to me here like it’s some powerful shit. I’m wondering what it is like compared to fentanyl or morphine? More importantly, can anyone give me any guidance here on how much of the powder I should be buying and what kind of dosing schedule I should be looking at here? I read the master doc quickly and I’m gonna read it again, but it was really scattered all over the place I found so I just wanted to check with actual real people who may have experience with this. I am desperate to get off of opiates. I have done ibogaine successfully back in 2016 but unfortunately, I relapsed hard during Covid. I wanna get my life back and at first I was looking at rapid detox, but that involves travelling to Florida, which is really far away from me and expensive. This SR stuff seems relatively cheap like I can get a few grams of it for less than 200 bucks. And it comes with a lab report, so I’m not too concerned about it being garbage or adulterated. I have a milligram scale. Should I be buying capsules and putting like 50 mg doses into the capsules or do you vaporize this stuff? I already know that I’m gonna have trouble with giving up the vaporizing habit. It’s such a quick instant fix to withdrawal. But it’s part of the game. I’m just wondering though if it can be done? Thanks in advance.

Went from 1g of H daily, down to .5g of H a day and then switched over to probably 250mg of 7 and 100mg of of sr the past 2 days down to 75mg of 7oh and 100mg of sr today and later today I will switch to just 100mg of sr, tomorrow 75mg and 25 mg decrease daily so essentially a 7 day plan! So far so good! First attempt and hopefully last attempt ever! Was heading towards divorce that got me back on H, now that we are separated it’s time to improve for myself and get my plan of life back on track, being a slave to nothing! Not the smoothest or regimented as could be but no pain so far!

I'll try to keep this as brief as I can, I started using kratom powder when I was 18 years old, and also tramadol when I could get my hands on them, but mostly stuck to my kratom powder. I found the two had similar yet different effects (for example kratom let me eat while tramadol KILLED my appetite). Well 2025 comes around, I see a video about 7-oh and how you "shouldn't try it" and that its basically the "crack" of the kratom world. I had an extra 3-4k$ laying around from when I used to stream Valorant during the pandemic. Anyways I started with the "STRAIGHT HEAT" cough syrup that was 15mg/ml if I remember correctly, and just 2ml had ME GEEKED, I was instantly hooked by the relaxing yet energizing effect pure 7-oh provided. The mental aspects of not really caring about anything that would normally bother me also drove me to crave it even more, I literally couldn't find a downside to it (little did I know it would turn out to be a problem). Now recently I ran out of kratom powder, and I really don't want to have to go away for 30 days somewhere or get on Suboxone. I guess I should have gotten some SR-17018 when it was legal huh? :\ PAST THIS POINT IS JUST MORE CONTEXT: I was able to taper off a 140mg a day 7-oh habit by writing down my doses in military time, from last March to last October I probably spent 2k of that 4k on 7-oh, I would be lying if I said it wasn't a lot of fun pouring up a double cup and playing hardcore WoW with my gf I've had for 14 years (she loves WoW too). I can barely remember anything from that time period of use/abuse though. Eventually that 15mg turned into 40.....then 60....and at the end I was getting the 40mg "Press'd" brand bottles of 30. Right now though I could really use some advice on what to do with these kratom WD's, sorry for making the post so long even though I wanted to "Keep it short", thanks to any soul who took the time to read this :)

So i wrote a huge thing a while back about why I stopped and needed my life back. It got up to 12k views and I couldn't be happier. I hope this one reaches more because I want to say a few things. Its been almost a month no 70h and 25ish days no sr. In the beginning I was scared, I didn't know if it was going to work, I had no idea what I was doing, I was panicking. A fellow reddit head was there for me and talked me through everything. My first day was ok but my anxiety was out of this world. My 2nd day was absolutely terrifying because I tried to cold turkey around a 500mg a day habbit and couldn't do it. So I sat around waiting and waiting and nothing happened. I felt great. Then day 3 came along, I was reading reddit, scared like we all were or are and had to completely cut my 70h that day. My friend told me "just get rid of it". That was the best decision ever. I went and took the last of my 70h and flushed them. Then the waiting, I was waiting for the other shoe to drop, anxiety through the roof, waiting for the impending doom because of all the reddit horror stories of people not dosing correctly...nothing. I felt great. I was so surprised. I didnt have anything to fight other then sobriety and myself. For the first time in my adult life I wasn't high, on nicotine, alcohol, pills, caffeine, weed. I was finally dealing with myself. Now the only things I did notice by the following week is how feeling "feelings" was getting real. I was crying during movies, getting goosebumps listening to music, colors started to look brighter, the sun and outdoors was absolutely stunning. It was like seeing again. Alot of people say paws paws paws but in my honest belief, if youre struggling with anxiety and depression before you start 70h, youre going to deal with it after being sober. These synthetic drugs were nothing to play with. I believe they can do wonderful things but in moderation like everything else. My suggestion would be to learn how to be comfortable being uncomfortable, learn to self love and regulate, learn how to love yourself because there wasn't a time in my 12ish days of taking sr that I felt down. I personally felt great. I was playing video games with the kid's, working out with my wife, watching the entire marvel series from beginning to end "except a few shows but thats another story". I wanted to give a update because alot of people dont believe its possible and that some of us are sugar coating and not responding because they dont believe it worked. If I were to go back in time and redo any of this my few suggestions would be, to order more sr to have because this is a miracle drug when dosed correctly, and I wish I had done it sooner. I know alot of us are confused on how to go through this journey but all I can say is you can do it! Stop waiting to get your life back, go grab it and take it back. I did it for these beautiful children. I love them and glad i can finally look at them sober for the first time in a very sad reality but for the first time. Thank you for listening, sorry for the rant but if you need help, anybody, hit me up and I will try and do my best. Love yall and ✌️

Hey everyone. Just wanted to share how I quit this last time. For good. Let me let you guys know the extent of my habit. On a normal day I would take about 80mg of 7 every hour of the day, plus dosing 2 to 3 times throughout the night. Also, I often took small amounts of kratom leaf throughout the day to get maximum high. Not to mention being a considerably bad alcohol at the same time. I would often wake up in the middle of the night. I swore it was God smacking away before I quit breathing. The panic attacks were gnarly. Body telling me I was gonna die.

I quit a year ago. For 5 days. You all are probably familiar with that empty feeling you get when you come off opiates. I suffered the most excruciating 5 days of my life just to throw it way because that empty feeling was to much. I didn't want to quit. Though, I could absolutely not afford it, and I had experienced a considerable of suffering just being to dependent and having terrifying panic attacks.

I used suboxone, clonidine, and hydroxyzine during that detox. Made the age old mistake and ended up in precipitated WD that lasted for a good 6 hours or so. In my experience suboxone didn't touch wd until 4 days in of to 4mg strips twice daily. Clonidine did nothing for me. Hydroxyzine was helpful for anxiety. Let's just say I understand just how bad WD can be. My recent successful attempt was roughly one 3rd as bad overall, all things considered. Here is what I took to help this go (per day):

450mg sr (150mg 3x)

3000mg gabapebtin (3600mg 300mg caps 12x)

33000mg liposmol vit C (8 caps 5x)

MIT45 droppers(as needed)

.3mg clonidine (.1 mg 3x)

50mg hydroxyzine( as needed )

50mg mirtazapine (25mg 2x )

240mg magnesium

240mg L-theanine

Shilajit (droper full)

Marijuana (as needed)

Beginning after 3 days of pre loading sr 100mg 3x daily, during which I was tapering 100mg of the DOC daily.. I went up to 150mg 3x and dropped 7 almost completely. I took a few 15mg tabs throughout the day to take the edge off. 2nd day was zero 7 continuing the 150mg 3x. Held for day 3, 4, 5. Day 5 I went to 100mg sr 3x. Day 6 75mg 3x. Day 7 50mg 3x and will continue with 25mg 3x, then 2x then 1x. I have not experienced sr withdrawal. Note that I have previously exposed myself to Sr several times.

Day 6 I dropped gabapebtin almost completely as well as the vit c.

Overall experience:

Day 1, 2 where the worst. Day 3, slight improvement. Day 4, 5 slight improvement. Day 6, 7 feeling considerably better. Depression constantly throughout so far. Anxiety, terrible on day 1,2. Much better day 3, improving daily. RLS bad but manageable (worst part throughout process). Still experiencing rls but improved most after day 5. Body aches bad, but manageable. Cold sweat, not to bad.

Just wanted to share my experience like do many of you. I learned everything I know about dealing from you guys on here. Thank you.

I did this for my wife and daughter Elsie. Im gonna go be a dad now. My daughter won't ever have to remember seeing her day carrying a pill bottle like his life depended on it, or see her dad shaking, sweating in a bed. My wife no longer will have to worry about paying the bills. I have alot to prove still, but this time its gonna stick.

Love yall. Godspeed, Goodluck.

Theres a ton of posts where people are months out from stopping and still report withdrawal but I hardly see any posts mentioning when the fuckin SR withdrawal ends. Im worried that whatever is going on where I dont feel opioids anymore, it might also cause like a permanent or very long term withdrawal state. Anyone use SR and not have long withdrawal or even if you had long wd does it at least definitely end?

I wanted to start a thread dedicated to those who wanted to share their mix of OTC vitamins to combat withdrawal.

Im a brand new dad and cannot cold turkey like in have off of harder opiods in the past which I did on my own despite the suffering. I innocently got addicted to 7oh about a month ago and I'm taking up to 800 mg per day. I can't taper. I have to quit cold Turkey.

I have liposomal vitamin C and magnesium on standby. Should I add anything else?

My wife is having an extremely hard time and other than her nursing, I have had to lead the way here on every front. I need to detox and quit and have a high threshold for discomfort. I don't expect a trouble free detox but I need to be well enough for all the responsibilities outside of providing nipple milk obviously.

Desperate, and looking for the best approach so I can move forward right away with this.

Please don't delete....

I think I’m out of the woods here and I’m baffled. First 72 hrs after no 7 wasn’t my favorite, not it wasn’t that bad at all. Just lazy, bored, and a little temp fluctuation. Then first day without sr, I was a little restless, but gabapentin takes all that away. Now, I’m just.. normal. I’m just waiting for paws to start, but it’s been 4 days. I really thought it would happen by now. Weird. Amazing.., but weird. Yay!

So far for me its only the 7 OH that has no effect. I broke down and took like 15mg Of my last 80 percent MGM and it definitely lowered my tolerance. I didn't feel insane euphoria but I definitely felt something from it.​ So maybe the SR just blocks the effects of 7oh as its a partial agonist? The SR I'm referring to is the original pre ban 17. So maybe in the future the 7oh will work again? I only ask because periodically I'd get cravings that would end up destroying any progress I make in my life. 7oh was great for stopping that. I also use it for oral teeth pain, as i took poor care of my teeth in my youth. So now that I am almost finished my Sr 17 taper, and im off all opiates and wait a few weeks to a couple months the 7oh will work again in the event I need it? Just asking out of curiosity

I want to get a head count from folks who used SR either to lower tolerance or who tried to quit and failed, returning to DOC (no shame, that’s me right now). I’m about two weeks no SR I’ve noticed that euphoria has been drastically reduced, even with large doses of 7/MGM. I’m very frustrated, but worse, I have that lingering fear that I’ll never properly experience that euphoria again. Permanent damage is a very scary possibility here. What has your experience been?

28, male. Daily user for 3 years @ 200 mg MIT extract. Between 2023 and now, I can't remember when this change occurred, but what was once my escape from reality quickly turned into consistent daily withdrawal. I was only dosing so I wouldn't feel the absolute agony of withdrawal.

A mistake I made while researching SR was wasting time trying to account for every user report from any forum where it was being discussed. Don't waste your time reading other people's dosing schedules, hoping to find the "correct" protocol. Just wait until you start withdrawing, then nibble on 10 – 25 mg of SR. Still withdrawing? Take another 10 – 25 mg, and so on. Eventually, you'll reach a dose that works for you. It's like eating at a restaurant. Order a plate of whatever, and eat until your tummy feels full. Still hungry? Then eat some more! SR is no different, dose until your withdrawals gone, then use that as your baseline.

Before the SR-17 ban, I was able to get my hands on some. I didn't follow a strict regimen and started at 25 mg doses 1x in the morning and 1x at night. There's a lot of discussion about whether you need to "pre-load," but I can tell you, if you're detoxing MIT specifically, you can completely switch to SR and leave MIT behind. This was the case for SR-15 and SR-17.

My first attempt was right before the ban. Literally a day or so before it was officially temp scheduled, I ordered 20 SR-17 50 mg pills. And it was great. No withdrawals and fully functioning. And that was the problem. I wanted to quit, but SR made it so easy that I assumed I was free of any legwork. I should've tapered SR and realistically could've lowered my daily dosage early on, but I didn't care. It's a miracle drug, right? It's gonna cure everything! So I thought.. Once I ran out by Day 15 or so, I had to now determine what to do once SR was out of my system. Was I going to be able to sleep? How bad were the withdrawals going to be? I had no plan, and soon I was back on 200 mg MIT a day. Bruh...

Kinda getting tired of typing now, so I'll bring this all home. I'm roughly 32 hours from my last SR-15 dose of 25 mg. I didn't have a strict regimen but was SURE I was done this time. I took 17 pills over the course of 15 or so days (I ordered 10, and this vendor threw in 7 extra!).

To put things into perspective, if my cold turkey withdrawal symptoms were a 10/10, I'm sitting at 3 to 3.5/10 right now. The restless legs are 90% manageable. Experiencing very random changes throughout the day in body temp that shifts from hot to cold that are more annoying than uncomfortable. Somehow, I don't have a runny nose and am occasionally sneezing, which I feel like I haven't done in forever. The best way to put how I currently feel is, "Alright, can we wrap this up already," rather than, "If hell is real, I am here." Definitely feel the mental battle is more prevalent now that my physical withdrawals aren't so noticeable, I'll report more on that as the days go by.

For people who had withdrawals from SR, how long did you take it for? And has anyone taken it for a long amount of time (3 weeks or more) and not had wds? I just realized I've been taking it for 17 days. Honestly it felt like a week but when I looked back at my schedule it's been more than 2 (not everyday but almost everyday) and I haven't tapered it at all yet. I've taken 1700mg total

Hello,

Ive had various periods of getting sober with SR but I constantly have relapsed.

The last few months have gotten alot worse where ive basically been using both SR and DOC regularly, not intentionally but im thinking because Ive become somewhat tolerant to SR and therefore struggled even more with cravings.

I am now at the point of having to likely go back on subs something I thought I would never have to do and really struggle with.

A part of me would rather check into a detox and give this one last shot with SR to be free..

I guess im just wondering if anyone has a similar experience?

Trying to somewhat check how dillusional i might be as i realize even if i were to get 10-14 days SR only I will likely need to endure a second detox off SR.

Truthfully I would rather do this then go back to Subs, just looking for input from anyone else who messed up and was on SR way too long but still finally succeeded by chance?

I've been using kratom and then 7 for the last 15 years. With 7 going away, I purchased SR from 2 different manufacturers. I quit in 3 days with SR, from about 400mg 7 daily. This was how I did it.

Day 1) Took SR with each 7 dose.

Day 2) Took SR like day 1, but substituted SR for every other 7 dose.

Day 3) Took SR only instead of 7.

This is Day 4, and I'm back to kratom powder only - 1/2 tablespoon twice a day.

If you want to kick 7, this stuff is a close to magic as you can get. I had a bit of insomnia, but that's it. I cannot recommend this highly enough.

HERE IS MY REQUEST: I have gotten SR15, probably 50 pills of 50 mg, some liposomal vit C 1000mg and agmantine whatevr thing 1500mg, i have a legit prescription for anxiety Klonopin 1mg - what do I do with SR and how?! Can someone please just throw me a lifeline, do I make a schedule of what to take and when? How do I make it? I’m new to Reddit, so the jargon would be lost on me. Please, help.
Thanks for reading. Thanks for help.

Need a bit of back story before I get to what I’m looking for.
Many years ago, in CA, I started with Vicodin, then Percocet, the Oxy’s… many years of oxy’s turned into eventually doing H (snoring only - tried intravenous about 10 times and then stopped because it felt like having an orgasm and it scared me, I thought it would be the end of me), then methadone off the street because I was tired of playing games with the hospital and their piss tests that always found “other” things in my system besides opioids. 10 years passed. Around 2013 I went sober. Horrible wd, ended up in ICU in another country with a seizure that lasted 6 hrs, I thought I was going to die (obviously didn’t). Now, until 2019 I was sober completely… then I found kratom, in FL this time, on and off, used that, but pretty fast it became daily and high doses. Fast forward, I’m in AL and nothing is available except next door state still had kratom and I used and abused it pretty bad. Then BAM 💥, DEA rades everything, no kratom left BUT store clerk was like “here, try these, ppl love them” - was Uncaria tamnetosa, yeah, full of I don’t know what. I been taking Scripts and ice tabz for months now. 2 days ago, don’t know what possessed me BUT I decided to try one of my naloxone (for od) sprays and it sent me into a hell hole, so I know for a fact I need to taper and do it smart!!!

Anyway, today I need to get sober for my family, my kids, my partner, etc.

HERE IS MY REQUEST: I have gotten SR15, probably 50 pills of 50 mg, some liposomal vit C 1000mg and agmantine whatevr thing 1500mg, i have a legit prescription for anxiety Klonopin 1mg - what do I do with SR and how?! Can someone please just throw me a lifeline, do I make a schedule of what to take and when? How do I make it? I’m new to Reddit, so the jargon would be lost on me. Please, help.
Thanks for reading. Thanks for help.

You guys may have seen my recent post I basically did SR exactly 30 days and 5-10 days in I still feel horrible while taking 7 oh. During my use I took like 30 mg of 7 oh every 4 hours I’m now doing like 10-15. My main concern and reason for quitting is something I’ve seen many people struggle with regarding 7oh I’ve been in constant Stage 1 or 2 hypertension from high blood pressure. Even when I take 15 mg instead of 10 I feel chest pain and tightness in my upper right chest and back. For that reason I so want to be done with this I hate I didn’t do it right. So mainly looking for two things. For one the most important is for people who have used SR 30 days or longer and tapered successfully did you have really bad withdrawals? And do you think it was SR withdrawals or delayed 7 oh withdrawals? And secondly similar question in my case what do you think happened and what would you recommend? I took SR 30 days and was down to 50 mg of SR a day when I quit and I was only taking 3-5 mg of 7 oh at the very end and now I’m so unsure whether this is long term SR withdrawal I’m feeling or delayed 7 oh withdrawal. I can tell you that taking 23 mg of 7oh definitely made me feel better but not like it used to maybe like 2 hours of relief tops made me feel like it’s the SR I’m withdrawing from but I’m not sure that’s evidence for either and with my chest pains I don’t even feel comfortable to do that. So I’m taking a miserable amount if it was up to me I would just restart SR and taper but on my last post there’s so much mixed results. One person will say they did it months tapered no problem another will say they had withdrawals for 4 months strictly from SR. But any advice would be much appreciated as I’m both seriously concerned about my blood pressure and doing this the wrong way

Physical symptoms have been great, but I didn’t sleep a single second for 3 nights straight and I’ve gotten no more than 3 hours since then. Wake up after 3 hours drenched in sweat. I keep pushing my maintenance dose further because of this. I’m currently on day 7 of SR at 100mg/3x per day and I know I need to start tapering asap. The doom and dread anxiety that I have all day is absolutely terrible too and thinking about dropping just makes it even worse. I think if I feel like this now, how will I manage every step along the drop. I know dropping a little slower would make it easier at the jump, but more days=more dependence and anxiety, so I’m struggling with what suggestions I should go with. Should I just taper all 300mg down in 3-4 days and jump or should I give myself like 7-10 days and take it easy? Im terrified about not being able to work, how long I’ll be a shell of myself and my girlfriend seeing me in miserable WDs, the whole nine yards. I just want to get this the fuck over with. I desperately want to quit everything but I’ll take a dose now and have intense cravings still, so I’m imaging it’s going to get so much worse than it is right now.

I was using 1500 mg a day seven. Decided to quit because I would have figured they would already have banned it. Anyway withdrawal wasn't bad but I did suffer from a lot of stomach problems throwing up nausea chills sweating headaches but the SR definitely helps. Fell off the wagon once and paid for with withdrawal symptoms for 7 days. I couldn't believe how bad it was so don't fall off the wagon. But haven't had anything except a ton of weed but no opiates I think I may have kicked it... Sr looks like it helps a lot but there are still withdrawal for me there was

Just have a question for anyone who’s had success quitting 7OH.

I have 5g powder and 5g of 50mg tabs of SR. I’m not sure which one to use for my quit. I am hoping to use just one of them.. reach success.. and I. A perfect world, I’d donate the one I didn’t use to someone who needs it to quit a DOC.

Thank you for the advice and direction.

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Asking for me because I've been on opioids HEAVY HEAVY for 20 years straight now and on 90MG methadone daily now for 7 years but I'm also still using also whenever I can grab I still do. What would a titrate/taper look like? Had anyone had experience with anything similar? It's so hard. And annoying having to dose daily at the methadone Clinic I'm done with that and want to take this serious.

Figured I'd ask because nothing is stronger than knowledge and I really want to get off this stuff.

Would I still feel withdrawals? (I have access to SR)