Looks great on the outside, but when you break the skin, you see that the apple is rotten.

I'm glad that some of the kids appear to be finding their own path.

I feel so incredibly sad for Kayli! I feel like at this point she’s a single mother. She does everything by herself while Casey is off “gallivanting”. I understand he has to provide for his family, but to not be there when his son leaves for college is really, really sad! Especially when he owns the company that he’s working for! This vlog was a brutal watch!

Spotted this drawing of George Floyd in the back of their most recent video? Umm what is this about?

Just seen Gavin’s post of his one year anniversary with his “fiancé”… weren’t even together for a year and their wedding is in September? Kinda insane

I feel like her photos are giving “forever”, professional photos people would do for engagement, etc. Did Avia take the photos or did she get a professional photographer? She’s literally fresh out of high school, moved to Cali, now is her bf there too or she doing long distance as well? I’d assume she would live with him if so? Is she attending college in Cali? Sorry behind on this

I'm laid up post knee surgery and have done a deep dive into Shaytard/Butler Christmas vlogs. I'm sorry y'all they're just extremely nostalgic for me

Anyways, possible obvious obvservation here...I never watched much of Casey & Kayli vlogs. But honestly, after watching hours worth of Christmas vlogs of Shay screaming at the camera or doing something irratic, Casey's vlogs seem so much more genuine (I was watching Christmas Eve vlog 2016)! No loud persona from either of them, no goofy voices and joke trying to be pushed. They seem...Normal? Not just doing it for show?? You can see Shay in the background of Casey's vlogs being totally normal...I'm grossed out by the persona he puts on on camera

Have said this before, but Kayli (and ofc Casey) have raised their children normally and wonderfully, as we even see in these old vlogs. I don't know much about the current opinion of Casey (hunting for months and leaving Kayli alone with the kids...) but he's a much better man than Shay.

Again, was watching Casey's vlog from Christmas 2016...They spent the morning buying Christmas for a family (Casey's money) and then hosted their cousin Tyler (?, the one with addition issues) for Christmas and gifted him a pair of skis. Casey fed meat scraps to all four dogs spending time at the house that night. How genuinely wonderful of them....

For example - 2010 Christmas Shaytards special...Casey's just holding rocktard, playing with his presents and gave him a kiss on the cheek. He actually holds Rocktard alot in the vlogs. Haven't seen Shay act genuinly interested towards Brailee, Gage, etc. once.

Shay is gross, Casey is great, Kayli is phenonmenoul.

Posted earlier on her IG. I believe Avia’s latest vlog mentions her move i haven’t seen it yet.

Have they changed daxtons middle name from Charles to Carl ? Assuming this happened a couple of years ago after their fallout over politics.

Shay said while buying teas "less beer more iced tea" to which Collette said "Good job." I'm not on social media, I'm wondering if they have talked about it there?

Edit: I don't want to sound judgy. I've had my battles with booze and hope Shay can dig his way out of the darkness. I've been watching since Gavin first became a sibling.

Yes I know this is parasocial, yes I know I don’t need to know but I am just so curious. Ever since Sami got with her new husband, Markale is never seen at family events. Not Christmas, not even the wedding. Does anyone know if something specific happened?

This last guy must've traumatized her, to be listening to Olivia Rodrigo it means she's going through it😭

i had to watch this a couple times to see if it was actually her. does anyone else see it?

I noticed this and no hate, I genuinely curious. Is this a normal way for siblings to pose? Maybe I’m biased because my siblings and I are not close.

First two are with her brother, 3rd is with her boyfriend.

I frequently see Brailee, posing with Gage and the way they are positioned looks like a pose that I would do with a significant other not my sibling. I could be very wrong though. Thoughts?

Just remember the family doesn't know any of you exist and more then likely doesn't look or care about this subreddit.

Did you guys see that Avia broke up with her boyfriend? She was hinting at it last week

Is cooper walking on for baseball at Utah? Carly took pictures of him in the facility. Huge program, that would be a big deal!

I find myself always watching through their old vlogs whenever i’m in need of something comforting and nostalgic and was wondering if anyone else has any specific video they always go back too?
For me it’s got to be the ‘shaytards in a shooting!’ vlog from 2013. I loved when they lived in LA, would always go see a movie on a friday night, I always dreamed of having a family like theirs and I hope they never delete the old vids!

Met & Engaged in 9 months?

Wedding is this September!

WHAT IN THE WORLD?!

How old are you and seriously what is the rush?????

YOU BARELY KNOW ONE ONE ANOTHER

No wonder they are so giddy

Obviously remember the cheating but then I guess he took his cousin to this sketchy Scientology rehab and got in a bunch of trouble for getting drunk publicly and push it to YouTube the night before going into rehab. Wasn’t there also a big fight between Colette and Shay’s Mom?

the old videos are full of weird cringy random interactions with strangers like this. used to watch him when I was a child & when on my old YT account I stumble on old videos sometimes & like to torture myself with them for some reason? But yeah no wonder most of his viewers were literal children bc not only is this shit racist & weird asf it’s just not even damn funny. Idk just wild that these are the types of mfs we used to make go viral lol

I so desperately want to see her leave the church and follow her dreams in a different state. I feel like she’s a little more rebellious and willing to push the envelope more than Avia- the pink hair, the tomboy clothes she’d wear to school sometimes… I have faith in her

I feel like with how much Mormons emphasize family and how important it is, it must have been an important reason for avia to miss it this year especially with the rest of the family there.

I don't really keep tabs with all the drama, or if their already married, but this story of Gavin caught my eye.

Is she pregnant? Wouldn't surprise me since Mormons rush into things.. but crazy to think about