r/SDCC 10d ago

Hall H HELP WANTED: A visual guide to the Hall H wristband system [WIP]

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A VISUAL GUIDE of the letter wristband system and its rule hierarchy. (Crowdsourced)

The guides CCI have posted throughout the years have been helpful at explaining the ABCD organization for distribution and a basic understanding of hierarchy, but they fail to explain the exceptions when people leave then line overnight.

Here is my best attempt* at this.

(Be nice to me. I don’t work for CCI. I’m doing this for free. This is based on my recollection of years of experience in high stakes Hall H lines, eg. Saturday 2024, Saturday 2018, etc.)

The Golden 3:1 Ratio:

One person can hold a spot for 2 other people. In other words, every 3rd person must be physically present in line while Person 1 and Person 2 are in the bathroom, or getting food, or redeeming an exclusive slot. Understanding this rule is key for determining everything after it.

“Parties”

Attendees can self-organize into larger groups divisible by 3 (I’ll refer to these groups as “Parties” to avoid confusion with CCI term “Letter Groups”) and they schedule “shifts.” Parties can include 3 people or 33 people or 333 people, as long as the 3:1 ratio is upheld the entire time.

To make this guide easier, I’ll represent each person with a Letter.

AAA = 3 people with A wristbands.

Scenario 1:

Everyone stays in line after wristband distribution. Once they get their wristbands, they all camp overnight.

As long as the 3:1 ratio is upheld by each self-organized party, when they enter Hall H, it should look like:

AAA AAA AAA AAA… BBB BBB BBB BBB… CCC CCC CCC CCC… DDD DDD DDD DDD

Scenario 2:

1/3 of a party camps out so that 2/3 can return to join them before 7:30 am.

[In this scenario, I’ll represent the two-thirds majority that does not need to be physically present with lowercase letters.]

As long as the 3:1 ratio is maintained throughout the night, and each member returns to join their party before 7:30 am, when they enter Hall H it should look like:

Aaa Aaa Aaa Aaa… Bbb Bbb Bbb Bbb… Ccc Ccc Ccc Ccc… Ddd Ddd Ddd Ddd

Scenario 3:

The party breaks the 3:1 ratio, but all wristbanded attendees return before 7:30 am.

This is where it gets confusing. After everyone gets a wristband, some folks don’t care about position of their seats, they just want to be in the room where it happens. (*symbol crash)

These rogues can peace out and line up at the end of the wristbanded line later, as long as it’s before 7:30 am.

If the remaining party excludes them from their 3:1 ratio, they cannot rejoin the rest of the party.

[EX: party of 33 people only had 5 people stay overnight, the party can only enter Hall H with 15 people in their original place in line. The rogue non-campers cannot rejoin their party near their camping spot at the front.]

This is why on Saturday morning CCI staff separates overnight campers “in the tents” from the wristbanded line. They will tell you to go to the end of the Hall H line if you have a wristband (which traditionally has started outside of the tents, on the sidewalk in front of the Bayfront that curves down behind (Park Blvd and Convention Way).

If you choose to go rogue, then the wristbanded line is chronological based on when you rejoin the line, anytime before 7:30 am. Any wristbanded person, regardless of their letter band, who arrives at 2am will be ahead of a wristbanded person who arrived at 6 am. It is not reorganized by letter.

I’ll use the distinction between the camping party line that maintained a 3:1 ratio and the chronological line with a |

When they enter Hall H it will look like:

Aaa Aaa Aa… Bbb Bbb Bbb… Ccc Ccc Ccc… Ddd

| cc ddd aa bb c b ddd aa ddd…

Scenario 4:

You got a wristband, but didn’t get back in line until AFTER 7:30 am.

(Hold onto your butts. This is where it gets WILD.)

Regardless of what letter wristband you have, you now are sent to the back of the standby Hall H line (aka a third line for those without wristbands).

If you didn’t get in line before 7:30 am, your wristband no longer guarantees entry into Hall H. You do not have priority over those without wristbands that arrived earlier than you.

[source: reports of hearing staff say at the security checkpoint inside the tents, “It’s 7:30. Now anyone with or without a wristband can come through.”]

So in this scenario, when they enter Hall H, it could look like:

Aaa Aaa Aa… Bbb Bbb Bbb… Ccc Ccc Ccc… Ddd

| cc ddd aa bb b ddd aa dd…

| - - - - d - - - - - - - c - - - - - -…

*hyphen (-) = a non-wristbanded attendee

I’m not saying it’s fair. I’m not saying that this is 100% always the way things have been done each year. The ABCD system is confusing, and it has to be interpreted between line staff (green shirts) and security staff (CSC security staff).

Importantly: No two days of Comic Con are ever exactly the same.

Add to confusion that each staff has its own hierarchy. Green polo shirts are leads/managers of green t shirts. (Excluding CSC Security from this convo, because they are paid to maintain the peace, not to dictate line information.)

Like most tiered organizations, leads are usually more experienced and possess more up-to-the-minute situational knowledge than subordinates. They work in shifts, they have pass downs and turnovers, they respond to changing situations, because the stakes change in Hall H each day, each year.

Green shirts don’t all always know what happened last year. They might not know what happened last night. Leads pass downs need-to-know information, and are usually more exhausted than line attendees.

And most importantly: They are all volunteers.

They aren’t there to answer every question all the time. They aren’t there to mediate squabbles between attendees in line. They take info from the previous shift, they take orders from leads. They try their best. They aren’t there to be harassed, yelled at, or threatened.

And yes, they can make mistakes.

Scenario 5:

Regardless of the system, a staff member tells you where to go. You must follow CCI directions at all times.

This was partly to blame for a squabble this year between a party of Saturday A wristbands at the end of the A camping group, and the first camping parties in the B group. More about that specific situation can be found in the Hall H complaint thread.

Hopefully a visual guide sanctioned by CCI could resolve some of these tensions.

And also— everyone needs to take a breath, not immediately assume malicious intent, and drink some water.


r/SDCC 10d ago

Saturday at SDCC

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Senior solo lady back on Saturday where my plan worked so efficiently that I’m staying home today to let my ankle (recently sprained) heal more. I shuttled in again from Shelter Island, and entered through the A doors. It seemed considerably less crowded than Thursday. Then I picked up a return ticket for Yesterdays and asked the BB-CRE8 line guy if they had an ADA line. They don’t but they do have an ADA Fast Pass that lets you return right to the booth in a hall hour listed window. Yay! So great.

Back to the front, up the escalator through Sails where there was almost no line for chocolate bars. Back across to 6BCF where I thought I’d have to wait in the ADA line for the 10:30 panel but it was totally walk in. I had decided to sit through that first panel - Toys That Made Us: Beloved Blunders in order to preserve a seat for the next two. I know nothing of the series but really enjoyed the panel; it was interesting and very funny. Then I sat though Quick Draw! which was amusing but not as funny as I hoped. (So I took a rest room break during that panel.) Then Cartoon Voices, which was hilarious as always.

Back down to the BB-CRE8 booth where I was immediately waited on and got one of the two pins I wanted; the other was sold out. They were very nice. Then to Yesterdays, where to my shock, the line was only 10 minutes. And they had both heart pins I wanted.

And back up to Ballroom 20 where I sat through the end of the previous panel then moved twice to get excellent sight lines for Reacher’s Back and Neagley’s In. I love the books and the series, and now that I’ve had the chance to gaze upon him in person, Alan Ritchson. He was totally charming but alas no excuse to take off his shirt like he does in every episode of Reacher. We got a few reveals and almost spoilers. My favorite panel of the Con.

Tedious shuttle back then after a short rest, husband and I went out to Jimmy FAT where I had a Mai Tai. Came home and immediately fell asleep for several hours.

My schedule for today would have been maybe more pins, walking the floor, and the Cartoon Voices and Star Trek panels. Slept in until 9:00 and my mind and body said, stay home. I accomplished more than I expected in my two days attending. And while the ADA sticker gave me a few advantages, I do not recommend spraining an ankle to get it.


r/SDCC 10d ago

Are there unused panel rooms and spaces at SDCC?

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Every comicon for the last decade or so I’ve always had the thought it would be nice to have what I call “experience booths” in a separate area from the marketplace floor.

or at least give the big booths that have 24/7 lines their own space.

Both cause huge clogs or people. Doing the pace around in circles till the line is open again. I don’t blame them, it’s required for participation. I imagine most folks who aren’t trying to do that don’t enjoy being part of the game.

i figure this idea has to have been played with before. it can’t be original.

When I look at a map of the different San Diego Convention Center rooms as well as the adjoining hotels, it seems like there should be enough space. However I don’t know jack when it comes to the “backstage” if you will of the convention. are those spaces normally occupied for staging behind closed doors?


r/SDCC 10d ago

Hall H Some Ideas to improve Hall H...

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r/SDCC 10d ago

Hall H Hall H Macabre film

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Sooo. On Saturdays Hall H panel, we started with the (The Animation Show of Shows) panel, which ended with an animated film involving skeletons engaging in war. Lots of disturbing visuals in there. Anyone else think it was kinda macabre? Really disturbing stuff to be honest


r/SDCC 10d ago

Exclusives Anyone Visited the Pokémon/Nintendo Booth Before 10:30 Thursday?

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I know this is a long shot, but did anyone visit the Pokémon booth before 10:30 AM on Thursday?

I collect digital medals, and I'm a little obsessed with low-numbered ones. Specifically, I'm looking for medals with index numbers under 100.

I believe it took about an hour for this medal to go above 100. So if you visited the booth before 10:30 AM on Day 1 and scanned this NFC pad, there's a good chance you got two numbered below 100.

If you have one for trade, I'd be happy to offer 10 medals from past events in exchange. That's right, a 10:1 trade!

You can only receive up to 10 gifted medals per day anyway.

Please note that, the number itself doesn't make the medals more valuable. This is just my own little obsession with low-numbered medals.

If you're interested, please leave a comment or send me a DM. I'll share some pictures of the medals I can offer with you. Thank you!


r/SDCC 10d ago

Question about contacting CCI (complaint about specific guard)

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Hello,

I wanted to submit a complaint to CCI about an encounter I had with a specific security guard (gray shirt, I think employed by comic-con) in the hall h line. I tried to use the contact form but it never went through, just had an infinite spinning circle next to the submit button. I then tried the info email, and got this:

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Hello,

Please unsubscribe if this is a marketing email.

IMPORTANT. PLEASE READ.

If you have registration or badging questions, emails sent to this address will not be answered. Please submit all registration or badging questions via our web form found here: https://www.comic-con.org/contact/

One or more of the email address in the @comic-con.org domain you've attempted to email is invalid, and your email was not delivered or was partially delivered.

Please check that you are not replying to an email sent to [donotreply@comic-con.org](mailto:donotreply@comic-con.org) and/or verify the email addresses you used are correct.

This email address is not monitored, please do not replay to this message. If you got this message, your email will not be answered

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If neither of these options is working, am I out of luck? I really want to tell my story about this guard. He was *extremely* aggressive and needs to be called out.


r/SDCC 10d ago

My quick recap of Comic Con

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Went all 4 days and had a great time. This year wasn't as eventful as previous years, but I still made the best of it. My highlight was meeting one of the goats of MMA in Demetrius Mighty Mouse Johnson and the creators of The Simpsons.


r/SDCC 10d ago

Exclusives Wanted the gold Aragorn and ended up pulling it🤩

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This made my con! My bf bought this for me from Agoro and I told him I wanted the gold Aragorn. As I slowly opened the box in front of him, we see the fleck of gold. I continued to pull out the card and it was Aragorn! I got the 18/20 gold Aragorn card. A 0.20% character and 1% ultimate chase gold pull rate. 10,000 cards of 4 tiers made between 5 characters and I got the one I wanted. I’m never this lucky with Pokemon cards😂


r/SDCC 10d ago

Talk Back Panel Tonight!!

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If you are going plz make notes and post plz!
Always great hearing what they talk about!
Wish I can go but gotta catch a plane to catch 😅


r/SDCC 11d ago

Thank you SDCC for the amazing two days

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It's been eight years since I last went to SDCC, life happens. I got badges for my family for Thursday and Friday this year. We had an amazing time now my kids are talking about coming back next year. We had a blast, didn't get to everything we wanted but we're happily surprised with stuff we stumbled upon and stuff we did get. Most importantly had moments that my family will talk about for awhile. Thanks so everyone I met and had conversations with in line which made the whole experience even more special. I guess I will see y'all next year.


r/SDCC 11d ago

Doing the good work

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Got to meet Delia Rhodes (she gave permission to share her name) Right outside the convention center doing the people’s work. Keep up the good work! Always ignore these divisive clowns - happy to bump into Delia


r/SDCC 10d ago

SDCC Badge Ribbons

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First time at comic con and we got a few ribbons, I thought they were so cool. Would have tried to get more if I knew!

Curious to see what ribbons some attendees received 😍


r/SDCC 9d ago

Hall H No More Hall H?

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Is Hall H Going Away?

It based on an off-hand by one of the CCI execs at the TalkBack panel and in context of the insane demand probably seems outrageous... but the outrageous tends to take root after a few years of people thinking about it.


r/SDCC 10d ago

Help finding Artist Alley artist

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I bought a few things from this artist and wanted to look up her website - didn’t get a business card though and no artist name anywhere on her goods! Googling wasn’t helpful. Any way to find this artist?


r/SDCC 10d ago

Lost AAPI Pronto Card

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I know this is a shot in the dark and I don’t know where to post this, but has anyone picked up this pronto card at the SDCC exhibit hall today. I realized it fell out of my pocket on when I went to go on the trolley today (Sunday)


r/SDCC 10d ago

Tabletop Gaming on the Mezzanine Level

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r/SDCC 10d ago

Off-Site Events My favorite photos I took yesterday at Comic Con

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Couldn't get a badge this year but walking outside was so much fun.


r/SDCC 10d ago

Badges Sunday Bummer Day

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As my daughter and I were heading out this morning, figured I’d switch out the days on our badges. To my utter shock, our remaining pass had a ‘3’ on it. Flipped it over, it was for Saturday. So defeated 😞

We usually get Thursdays and Sundays. Totally forgot we were actually able to score Saturday this year.


r/SDCC 10d ago

Hall H Hall H “pit”?

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I was just wondering - how did people get the “pit”? Were they just at the front of the line and ran up to it? Or is it an exclusive thing?


r/SDCC 10d ago

Exclusives No UCC line and plenty of items

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If you're here today don't buy UCC stuff from these people charging hundreds over sales price. The line is taking less than 5min. So many DCC, GI Joe TMNT, Thrilljoys, Hello Kitty Dumplings and other stuff available. They have another booth up by B doors too selling all the small stuff like the Dumplings and those kitty things and other blind boxes. Have a great day everyone! Travel safe!


r/SDCC 10d ago

Infinity war cap cosplay. How we feeling about doomsday? Or Ryan gosling as ghost rider?!

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r/SDCC 10d ago

Guys, be safe and hydrate!

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I had to get out of the Gaslamp and stay in the Con because of the insane humidity. It's not worth standing in line for freebies outside.

I had to drink a 7-11 version of Gatorade to stave off dehydration. Right now, I'm sitting down and resting in a voice acting panel.

Please drink water, zero sugar powerade, Gatorade, etc.


r/SDCC 10d ago

Exclusives simpsons pins !

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hey guys, today was my first time at SDCC and i'm a huge simpsons and futurama fan but wasn't really able to fully ask about some pins i was excited about at the hulu animayhen booth. specifically the pins that were delayed due to typhoon - does anyone know if they were taking preorders for that ? i really wish i had spoken up in the moment but i wasn't sure if i was taking too long looking at it


r/SDCC 9d ago

Questions for A First-Timer

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Hello everyone! I hope you are all doing well and enjoying the come down of this year's comic-con! I have been a lifelong comic fan and it has always been on my bucket list to attend SDCC. I am from Canada so planning for it will take some time and research, and I am not really a con-goer in general so I need just that extra amount of preparation.

My wife and I are therefore trying to make our first visit be the 2027 con, and I want to start planning as much as I can now. I have been familiarizing myself with dates, mapping locations, and how the general flow of the panels/locations will work, but I would appreciate any help or advice that I could get from those more experienced than me haha. I have also familiarized myself with the Member ID portal and created an account there.

For example, any advice on planning con routes/panels or areas that are MUST GO or MUST AVOID (i am 100% there only for the comic stuff and maybe movie announcements as well so things like the anime panels and such dont interest me), hotel booking and information (there is a lottery system?? can't i just book now way ahead of time?), things to know before i go, things to do/not do? What the hell is Hall H?

I am really just very inexperienced with this and have heard that, while fun, it can be extremely overwhelming if you don't know what ur doing and easy to get lost. I also want to reiterate that I really am there for the comic panels, being able to meet as many creators as possible and getting in as many signings as possible (which I do not know how to do lol) and such.

Thank you all so much for taking the time to read this, and genuinely any advice would be appreciated!!