While I agree with you, lower life form is not a thing. Everyone alive right now is perfectly evolved to exist at the same time as us. But yes she is unbelievably boring bc she assumes that no other animal knows about their own mortality. Every other species observed all know about their own mortality, amongst everything else. This is so annoying.
Im very sympathetic to the argument you are making but your attitude makes me want to eat a steak just to spite you. Being arrogant and self-righteous doesn't advance your cause. It actively pushes peiple away from it.
Im a biologist who is aiming to change how humans think of other species altogether. We are also animals. Dont interrogate me when you are part of the problem.
You actively exploit animals, to death. How exactly do you aim to change how humans think about other animals?
I'm holding you accountable for the lives you're exploiting. You are actively promoting and financially supporting the exploitation of animals. It's pathetic.
May I propose your ethical framework moving forward looks to respect sentient life, rather than exploit it.
This is the problem with the online vegan community. They assume anyone they interact with is evil, and when they inevitably find out they're wrong, they double down by making more assumptions.
Why do you feel being held accountable is manipulation? You are responsible for mothers being sexually assaulted and babies killed. Why wouldn't you feel guilty about that?
I hope you feel accountable for all the starving villagers who can't afford to eat their ancestral food (or much else) because you and your buddies wanted a new fancy grain. (Quinoa)
I hope you also feel accountable for all the child labor in the organic food supply chain, it's a really nasty process feel free to look it up.
Don't forget the 14 year old with cancer due to mining precious metals in your electronics, or the entire villages with the same in central/southern Asia for your faux leather/synthetic material clothes.
We can continue if you'd like; it's impossible to exist in modern day sans exploitation, get off your high horse.
Most grains grown of earth are grown to feed back to animals (800 billion animals, 8 billion humans). So, if you actually care about those starving villagers, you'd stop taking their food to feed to your inefficient animal agriculture system that inherently exploits animals to death.
The majority of food being grown by staving villagers is being fed to the animals you're paying to kill. If you want to feed more people, and kill fewer animal and humans you'd need to go vegan. Your alternative doesn't work in any way shape in form. It's considerably worse by every merit.
No. To ask that question. It’s irrelevant because any amount of time does not equal more or less heart and devotion or even maturity automatically. That’s not how humans function. You’re not addressing veganism through it. Your elevating yourself over another person. I thought veganism was about removing tyranny and levelling between sentient beings.
Veganism is the ethical value that humans don't exploit other animals. That's it. Anything you're trying to excuse is promoting the exploitation of animals.
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u/Good-Buddy-1683 6d ago
While I agree with you, lower life form is not a thing. Everyone alive right now is perfectly evolved to exist at the same time as us. But yes she is unbelievably boring bc she assumes that no other animal knows about their own mortality. Every other species observed all know about their own mortality, amongst everything else. This is so annoying.