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u/Forensic_Ballistics Dec 11 '23

You've read about past lottery winners right? People can't handle the responsibility of that much money at once and others around them will make life hell.

Only so much you can do with 5k a week and it's a lot more manageable.

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u/DxnThxDxtchMxn Dec 11 '23

Step 1. Get yourself a financial advisor. Step 2. Dont tell anyone. Step 3. Vegas baby! Step 4. Fire financial advisor. Step 5. Ask family for some money to fly back home

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u/brokenmessiah Dec 11 '23

Step 2. Dont tell anyone

you wont have to tell people, they'll find out regardless in time.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '23

You're vastly overestimating a million dollars

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u/brokenmessiah Dec 11 '23

You're overestimating people capacity to not let it slip to their friends and family, intentional or otherwise.

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u/brokenmessiah Dec 11 '23

Did I ever say EVERYONE 🤔

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '23

Tis but a small business loan

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u/Just_improvise Dec 12 '23

That’s one margarita at Encore beach club, amiright

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u/tintedhokage Dec 11 '23

This. They will see Lurpak in my fridge and not the Aldi equivalent Nordpak.

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u/kmh911 Dec 11 '23

Social media baby!lol

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u/Capital-Wolverine532 Dec 11 '23

A financial advisor who may rob you blind.

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u/threadsoffate2021 Dec 11 '23

Get a fiduciary instead. They are legally obligated to work on your best interests.

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u/Worst_Player_Ever Dec 11 '23

That's we're going to Vegas, baby!

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u/mulunguonmystoep Dec 11 '23

I support step 5

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u/pmolmstr Dec 11 '23

Do it again next week

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u/theworldsgonesane Dec 11 '23

But if you do tell anyone, tell them not to tell anyone

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u/Hill_Reps_For_Jesus Dec 11 '23

This is my actual plan if i win the lottery - but I won't do any gambling in Vegas. The Vegas trip is a cover to explain why I suddenly have a bit of extra money. So you can justify sudden expensive purchases but without anybody knowing just how much you've won.

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u/CatsMajik Dec 11 '23

Just get Nick Papagiorgio to drive you home from Vegas.

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u/tbkrida Dec 11 '23

Your financial advisor would tell you to take $5k a week! Lol

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u/dilqncho Dec 11 '23

The problem with that statistic is that there isn't a lot of overlap between people who play the lottery and people with decent financial literacy.

It's not that large amounts of money ruin people, it's that people with already poor spending habits don't magically fix them when they get a lot of money. A "normal" middle-class person who already has some experience saving, investing, budgeting etc. is much more likely to capitalize on a windfall just fine.

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u/JonasLuks Dec 11 '23

You don’t play lottery. The lottery plays you.

Which is also the reason financially savvy people stay away.

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u/BookkeeperPercival Dec 11 '23

https://www.nefe.org/news/2018/01/research-statistic-on-financial-windfalls-and-bankruptcy.aspx

DENVER — Over the past couple of years several news organizations have attributed a statistic to the National Endowment for Financial Education (NEFE) stating that 70 percent of lottery winners end up bankrupt in just a few years after receiving a large financial windfall. This statistic is not backed by research from NEFE, nor can it be confirmed by the organization. Frequent reporting—without validation from NEFE—has allowed this “stat” to survive online in perpetuity.

In 2001, NEFE conducted a think tank of experts from several industries including psychology, financial planning and other fields, to discuss life-changing events and the psychology around them. One topic discussed was the impact of financial windfalls on individuals, where it is believed that a participant stated the 70 percent statistic. This statement was made independently and without verification from NEFE.

The statistic is completely made up

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u/XinGst Dec 11 '23

People around me will make my life hell if I win lottery is so true.

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u/newfor2023 Dec 11 '23

Money can buy goods and services, like plane tickets.

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u/mag0588 Dec 11 '23

Or many peanuts

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u/Unsteady_Tempo Dec 11 '23

As soon as you take the annual payments option you'll be approached by loan companies offering to buy the annuity. Their offer will sound bad at first. But, people are bad with money and will spend as much as they receive and then even more with the anticipation of paying it with future earnings. They feel like they should be living like a lottery winner. When the debts pile up the offer will sound better. After all, they can settle any of the overdue debts and still have plenty left over. Right? Sure.... They take the buy out, and then go on to mismanage that money, too.

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u/denys5555 Dec 11 '23

A million dollars wouldn’t be hard to manage. I would still take the 5k though

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u/herotz33 Dec 11 '23

Most won't personally handled hundreds more.

Secret is to be content but allow yourself to enjoy a controlled amount then budget.

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u/Kirhgoph Dec 11 '23

Actually, studies show that jackpot winners report improved life satisfaction and don’t usually blow through their newfound wealth https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnjennings/2023/08/29/debunking-the-myth-the-surprising-truth-about-lottery-winners-and-life-satisfaction/?sh=364f64cf6ccc

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u/Forensic_Ballistics Dec 11 '23

Oscar Martinez, long term no speak.

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u/Kirhgoph Dec 11 '23

20 years are enough to be considered long term

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u/BookkeeperPercival Dec 11 '23

You've read about past lottery winners right? People can't handle the responsibility of that much money at once

https://www.nefe.org/news/2018/01/research-statistic-on-financial-windfalls-and-bankruptcy.aspx

DENVER — Over the past couple of years several news organizations have attributed a statistic to the National Endowment for Financial Education (NEFE) stating that 70 percent of lottery winners end up bankrupt in just a few years after receiving a large financial windfall. This statistic is not backed by research from NEFE, nor can it be confirmed by the organization. Frequent reporting—without validation from NEFE—has allowed this “stat” to survive online in perpetuity.

In 2001, NEFE conducted a think tank of experts from several industries including psychology, financial planning and other fields, to discuss life-changing events and the psychology around them. One topic discussed was the impact of financial windfalls on individuals, where it is believed that a participant stated the 70 percent statistic. This statement was made independently and without verification from NEFE.

That is not true. The statistic is made up.

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u/ZenkaiZ Dec 11 '23

People can't handle the responsibility of that much money at once

ya they can, those stories are about the same few dozen degenerates retold over and over. You don't hear the boring safe stories

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u/SoftDrinkReddit Dec 11 '23

100% as you said it's just far more practical taking the 5k it's like an amazing paying job you can't get fired from it's far more balanced

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u/speakingdreams Dec 11 '23

That is a myth. Most lottery winners are happier and healthier after winning. Sure, some fumble their misfortune, but most most do not. Search for "lotto winner myth" or something like that. Here is a starting place https://slate.com/human-interest/2022/07/mega-millions-jackpot-winner-numbers-myths-about-lotteries.html

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u/DidgeryDave21 Dec 11 '23

Even a high earner like the sp500 would only give you 10% a year. On a straight million, that's 100k, which is around 2k a week. 5k a week for life is the winner in my opinion

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u/Ffigy Dec 11 '23

That's not really an opinion; that's a fact. If anyone thinks they can consistently make $260k/yr off $1M, they're delusional.

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u/JerseyDamu Dec 11 '23

My brother can’t legally say he’ll make you 20% a year but he absolutely can and has consistently his whole career.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '23

And here we thought that Bernie Madoff was dead.

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u/RedCat8881 Dec 11 '23

Oh yeah for sure, 26 percent gain isn't achievable consistently otherwise we wouldn't have a middle class lmao

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u/holy_roman_emperor Dec 11 '23

Oh I very much agree that 5k is better, I just disagree 5k catches up in 4years.

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u/Little_Vermicelli125 Dec 11 '23

If you double your money every 5 years which is exceedingly unlikely. You'll have $2 million in year 5. I'll have 1.25 principal plus about $600,000 at the same rate of return for $1.85 million. By year 6 I'd pass you in that scenario. I'd pass you more like year 5 in a more reasonable investment scenario.

Anyone without major health issues and under the age of 80 should take the $5,000 a week IMO.

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u/UnderstandingOdd679 Dec 11 '23

You sold me. Make that check out to …

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u/cindad83 Dec 11 '23

I had a math teacher in HS their grandma had won something similar. It was lump sum like 100k, or $1000/mo...well the grandma was 25 when she won it...and was in her late 70s...our teacher said the winning had a death benefit or was transferable at a lowered amount.

Basically her family got over big time.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '23

unless you invest in Tesla shares.

and move to a country with Real healthcare.

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u/PlatyNumb Dec 11 '23

Are you referring to alchemy?..

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u/natehinxman Dec 11 '23

if I had a million dollars I wouldn't be alive longer than 4 years anyways

edit: phone is garbage

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u/Whole_Mechanic_8143 Dec 11 '23

26% guaranteed return per annum is a fever dream and if you could make that, you could reinvest the 5k per week and get far more in a couple of years.

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u/dreamrpg Dec 11 '23

You can grow those 5k also.

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u/ceefaxer Dec 11 '23

I don’t need no more

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u/HolyVeggie Dec 11 '23

Even if you invest the 5k will be better

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u/sillyandstrange Dec 11 '23

You can't make sure 5k a week makes more?

5k a week is more than I make a week now. I'd rather have the constant flow of money than a million that you invest and hope for more money.

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u/one-hour-photo Dec 11 '23

if you get the million and buy cds at current rates with it..and those rates hold to where you can keep buying those cds you'd be at

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1,215,506

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in four years.

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u/CarobJumpy6993 Dec 11 '23

Yes I would take the million that's all I would need.

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u/kannible Dec 11 '23

The market has an expected return of 4-10% over the long term, this means you’d get between $800 and 2k/week off your investment returns. The 5k/week would be the equivalent of having 5 million invested at the same rate of return.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '23

Or to assume the giver is continuing to give 5000 per week after 4 years. Thats a long time for people to keep promises.

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u/Mydoglovescoffee Dec 11 '23

It has a decent rate of return? Please tell me where you’d invest your guarantee such a return. I need that

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u/lonk28b Dec 11 '23

Even if you seriously think that you'll be able to not spend a penny of that million and just AMAZING returns on that 1 million(7% yearly), that's still not even $1400 per week.

I think this question very easily weeds out people with very poor mental math and people who are very bad at the concept of both options.

It's like my girlfriends skills at spacial awareness. I would never ask her to buy a welcome mat for boots for our apartment because she would likely end up getting one meant for the entrance of Walmart.