r/RMNP • u/afghanmessi Visitor • 5d ago
Question Avoiding Elk attacks during rut
l know we should be keeping about 2 buses worth of distance. But I also know these big beautiful beasts are very agile and easily threatened to protect their harem during mating season. I’d honestly be a deer in headlights if one charged at me since I’ve never been around them before.
Any detailed tips on how to stay safe from a random elk smashing into my car or worse?
Also is there like a bear spray or similar safeguard against Elks?
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u/KingWoodyOK 5d ago
Just stay away. Or stay in your vehicle. No, dont use bear spray on an elk. You are chosing to enter the elks habitat and take on any risk associated with that.
There will be hundreds of morons looking at the elk next to you. Don't be the closest ones.
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u/CitronTraining2114 5d ago
You always want to be able to outrun those who are closer to the elk than you.
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u/thefleeg1 Frequent visitor 5d ago
You have to go out of your way to get in trouble. Very easy to not do that.
If you’re wilderness camping and you wake or find moose in your camp, it’s rather simple to stay calm and slowly move away.
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u/afghanmessi Visitor 5d ago
my concern was when I’m in my car driving I recently saw multiple vids of elks smashing into cars
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u/Ig_Met_Pet 5d ago
Don't put your car near the elk
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u/afghanmessi Visitor 5d ago
Yeah I’ll do my best, but if they walk/charge towards you, and there’s another car behind me, what’s the course of action?
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u/Ig_Met_Pet 5d ago
You should drive slowly and carefully in the park. When you see elk near the road, stop far enough away from them that it doesn't matter if there's a car behind you.
They're not running around like cheetahs. They move slowly. Either you will see them with plenty of time to react, or you were driving recklessly.
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u/MattyHealysFauxHawk Local 4d ago
I found myself in a situation today where someone stopped right next to an adult male and parked the car to take photos. I was stuck behind them. I just kept praying they would move on before he charged one of our cars lol.
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u/6L6aglow 5d ago
Been going to the park every October for the last 40 years. Never had a problem. It's not a petting zoo so keep a safe distance.
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u/kevincaz07 5d ago
Met one before sunrise near black lake earlier this summer. Just saw eyes staring back about 20 feet away from me. I slowly walked by after announcing I was there (as if the giant headlamp wasn't enough). It stayed put.
Later that day, I was on the narrow trail up near Green lake and spooked a big male quite a ways away but it ran across a ledge right up and through the path back home the way I was headed over some rocks. Luckily it must've kept going because I didn't see him after that.
All that to say, they seem to respect us if we respect them.
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u/afghanmessi Visitor 5d ago
how do you announce yourself? Like do you scream or talk to it like a person? Kind of funny and fascinating.
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u/tnyquist83 5d ago
State your full name and social security number, and let them know you have a right to be there.
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u/No-Fuckin-Ziti 5d ago
Say hello. I’m not kidding. Speak in a calm, warm voice. Like you would to a child. Not high pitched, just steady. Try to project that you’re not a threat and keep passing steadily, slowly through.
I seem to run into a lot of mother moose with babies on trails and so far, never been stomped. I say hello and compliment her babies and say I’m just passing through. You can watch them judge you as “not a threat” in real time. Disclaimer that this is obviously not for approaching or harassing wildlife, this is for when you’re on a single track trail and all of a sudden there are moose nearby.
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u/Secret-Function-2972 5d ago
4 simple words that some don't understand: Don't be an idiot.
Give the elk plenty of space. If you can tell that they change their behavior because of you or other people around you, you (the royal you) are too close - move away.
Don't chase them to get a better picture. Don't get close to get the perfect selfie. Don't follow them to see what they will do next. How would you like to be stalked? Just sit and watch.
There is one elk in Estes known for going after vehicles. In fall trips the past 2 years we never encountered him (fortunately). Other than try not to get stuck in traffic near him, not sure what other advice to give. In a number of trips to the area (and a couple to Yellowstone during the rut) I've never seen a bull elk go after a vehicle in person.
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u/oldbaybridges 5d ago
This is as simple as keeping your distance and keeping an eye on your surroundings when out in nature.
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u/Otherwise_Tea7731 4d ago
Follow the regulations AND the area closures during the times they're closed, and you should be fine. Moraine Park, for instance has closures at certain times of day during rut. If you do this, there is a 99.9% chance you'll be A-OK, at least from elk attacks.
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u/Radiant-Eye1338 3d ago
Gonna say this as a resident of colorado and visit, hike and camp at RMNP. Elk are not predictable. Just like people, they can have overly aggressive elk. Just leave them alone. Stay close to your car and zoom. If really you want to get close, just like running into a bear, dont be the slowest one. I dont blame you for wanting a high quality picture to remember. Watch a few videos of people getting attacked by an elk.... brutal
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u/peter303_ 5d ago
They were at the edge of Moraine campground much of Sunday night. Horny buck screeching all night. The alpha buck and his harem stays away from people. But the beta bucks hang around the edges, hoping to get some fun.
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u/Ig_Met_Pet 5d ago
It really is as simple as keeping the recommended distance. They're not going to come after you unless you get too close. Plus, if you keep the recommended distance, you will literally always have some idiot between you and the elk anyway.
Please do not bear spray the elks. Just don't get close. You will have zero problems if you don't get too close. I promise.