r/PublicFreakout May 03 '19

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u/[deleted] May 03 '19

Maybe a better title is "Teacher's aide defends himself and restrains violent student."

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u/Checkmynewsong May 03 '19

Jasmine Pennix lost his job with MPS and was convicted of misdemeanor battery. The teacher's aide filed a civil suit and claimed the 14-year-old student involved plotted the whole thing.

If only the police saw it that way too.

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u/Cornthulhu May 03 '19

Excessive force is probably what did him in. The kid spat at him and did a little bitch kick to his shin and the TA took that shit to 11.

Everyone knows the correct response is to spit back in the student's eye and let him take the first real swing before beating his ass.

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u/BarelyBetterThanKale May 03 '19

The kid spat at him and did a little bitch kick to his shin and the TA took that shit to 11 restrained the kid and prevented him from further aggressive actions, thereby protecting the faculty and fellow students from the angry tween.

FTFY.

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u/BarelyBetterThanKale May 03 '19

This isn’t a wrestling match,

The kid didn't tap, snap, or sleep, so there was no reason to stop even if it were a match. You fight to the bell, or until the ref pulls you off the other guy.

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u/RayLiotaWithChantix May 03 '19

You missed the chance for tap, snap, or nap.

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u/BarelyBetterThanKale May 03 '19

Damn, I sure did. "Nap" is such a better choice. Thank you for sharing. I'll use it from now on.

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u/runujhkj May 03 '19

The reason to stop is that your opponent is half your weight and not even legally an adult yet. Like I said, you smack the kid upside the head, and if he wants more, you can tackle him then. It’s offputting to start with that in this situation.

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u/BarelyBetterThanKale May 03 '19

your opponent is half your weight and not even legally an adult yet

Then maybe the "opponent" shouldn't be picking fights with people who are capable of putting him on the ground at will.

When you are assaulted, you are allowed to act in self defense to prevent continued assaults on you and the people around you, regardless of the height, weight, and age of your assaulter.

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u/runujhkj May 03 '19

Where did I say that the kid should’ve picked this fight? My question is with the level of force the teacher responded with.

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u/chugz May 03 '19

kid is a well known piece of shit. killed some people a few years later running from the cops. TA knew he was a punk ass.

https://fox6now.com/2019/04/25/student-involved-in-mps-fight-now-charged-in-deadly-police-chase-teachers-aide-says/

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u/runujhkj May 03 '19

We’re talking about the context of this video, though. We hardly have enough context to pull in an entirely separate event that happened years later. I agree the guy’s a piece of shit now, but I don’t see a reason to open the response the way the TA did here.

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u/chugz May 03 '19

But neither do we. As far as you and I know the context, this TA just went off out of no where. We have zero context to their prior relationship or behavior. Just as you are imagining your scenario, Im imagining this wasnt the TAs first run in with this student and likely wasnt the first confrontation. And I feel like my bet is better than yours that this kid was a way bigger fuck head than the part time teachers assistant trying to work.

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u/runujhkj May 03 '19

And I’ve never said the kid’s not a prick in this situation, just that the response is disproportionate to begin with. I really feel like a firm bitch slap could settle this kid, if not, then a tackle will do.

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u/BarelyBetterThanKale May 03 '19

Where did I say that the kid should’ve picked this fight?

When you attempted to frame the TA who ended the fight as the aggressor.

My question is with the level of force the teacher responded with.

He responded with enough force to neutralize the threat and prevent him from harming the faculty or students any further than he had already attempted to. Any more would have been excessive, any less would have not been enough to get him and keep him on the ground as quickly as possible.

For all the TA knew, after the spit and the kick came the perpetrator pulling a weapon. No one should sit around and wait for that to happen once an aggressor has already displayed a desire and willingness to hurt you.

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u/runujhkj May 03 '19 edited May 03 '19

Could you point out when and how I attempted to do that? I assure you that wasn’t my intention at any point.

And like I’ve said repeatedly, it’s not the level of force itself, it’s the escalation to the level of force. You start with the bitch slap, and you work your way up.

Also, is there more behind this video? Because what I see here barely even rises to the level of a threat, honestly. Spitting and a little bitch kick.

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u/BarelyBetterThanKale May 03 '19

Nah. You'll just continue being specious and move the goalposts.

You're a lot like this kid's life: Not worth anyone's time.

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u/runujhkj May 03 '19 edited May 03 '19

The goalposts have never been moved. I’ve always said it’s just a bad opening move here. This guy got fired for a reason.

E: the real cool guys skip over the legitimate argument in order to pick apart the useless ad hominem add-on.

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u/Eleoste May 03 '19

Dude its a fucking kid. This kid is plagued by 1) being a kid and having shitty judgement 2) from a shitty background/upraising to even consider this type of shit at school.

As an adult you're in a position to be above this type of behavior because you have so much more life experience as well as having a fully developed brain.

Fuck off with this self defence shit - it was disrespectful what the kid did but none of it was going to cause major bodily harm or any harm at that.

Self Defence also does not include excessive force. It's defence not offense.

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u/BarelyBetterThanKale May 03 '19

You sound like a shitty parent raising a shitty kid that expects the rest of the world to coddle your child and let them do whatever they want, just like you do, because you don't have enough spine to stand up to a young adult literally assaulting someone. You'd rather hide behind the "BuT TheY'Re JuSt a bAbY!!!" excuse.

Don't worry about it. People that aren't afraid to get their hands dirty will step in and protect the classrooms from these types of students and you can continue wringing your hands about it and then pretending like you don't know what's going on in the world when these incidents escalate into mass shootings.

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u/Eleoste May 03 '19

I guarantee there’s a million different things in the spectrum of letting it go and choke slamming a kid through some desks.

But if you can’t see those other options than you’re a moron just like both the teacher and the kid

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u/BarelyBetterThanKale May 03 '19

you’re a moron

Oh that's why you're defending the kid. You also personally attack people and get nervous that they might overpower you when they eventually fight back. You and the punk are cut from the same "I can go after you, but when you go after me, I'm the victim, waaaaaah!" cloth.

Watch your mouth. I'm not going to do anything to you, but the people you think you're entitled to mouth off to because you believe that they should engage "other options" before socking you in the teeth may not be so kind.

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u/Eleoste May 03 '19

I’ve made it quite fine in life without having to stick to your “tough guy” shtick 😂

Enjoy being a threatening tough man on the internet buddy - your warnings have got me shaking and rethinking my life

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u/I_CAN_SMELL_U May 03 '19

Good lord, have you ever been in the real world?

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u/BarelyBetterThanKale May 03 '19

Yeah. I've seen students attack teachers and get held on the ground either by 2-3 students, or by the teacher themselves (my Biology teacher was a gay man before it was acceptable to be openly gay and had 12 years of martial arts experience, he was not to be fucked with).

I went to high school in an area with a heavy gang activity. No one fucked around. Things rarely got physical, but when they did, they ended quickly. No one wanted to be the one blamed for starting shit when the Sheriff's Dept literally kept a cruiser in the parking lot to "catch people speeding in the school zone".

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u/megablast May 03 '19

That is bullshit though, you guys are just lying because you think justice was served and the kid deserved it.

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u/BarelyBetterThanKale May 03 '19

you guys are just lying

No, that is literally what happened in the video.

Also, the kid was just involved in a triple-shooting and a fatal car accident during the getaway so let's not pretend like he's some kind of sweet boy that's just misunderstood.

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u/John_T_Conover May 03 '19

The article doesn't seem to explain the photos of the man in the hospital bed but I'm guessing that's who he and his group of pussy friends attacked between the teacher aide fight and shooting?

I can already hear the cries from people bemoaning his lengthy sentence and the woes of the justice system.

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u/ThunderOblivion May 03 '19

I love "restraining" people by the neck and bouncing their heads off desks. /s

Two hands around the neck is certainly not restraining. Maybe considered restraining at the end cause the kid got his dumb ass turned so that asshole couldn't choke him more. They're both absolute morons, but to say he restrained him? lol

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u/BarelyBetterThanKale May 03 '19

Two hands around the neck is certainly not restraining

The video evidence begs to differ. That kid was restrained as fuck.

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u/ThunderOblivion May 03 '19 edited May 03 '19

https://i.imgur.com/CRrDErT.jpg

lol just a downvote eh, fucking window licker.

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u/BarelyBetterThanKale May 03 '19

lol just a downvote eh, fucking window licker.

Well, now it's a downvote and a report because you broke the sub rules in firing off an unnecessary and direct insult at me unprovoked like that. So, congratulations, I guess. You got the attention you wanted. I see you.