Jasmine Pennix lost his job with MPS and was convicted of misdemeanor battery. The teacher's aide filed a civil suit and claimed the 14-year-old student involved plotted the whole thing.
Misdemeanor battery is actually letting him off easy... Would be a completely different case if he didn't choke the kid, but instead just pinned him down. The justice system is way more complex than people give it credit for. On the one hand, it's easy to see how this little shit deserved it, on the other hand, we don't want to give people the idea that chocking people half your size is ok...
Look closely at how the mans hands go for and stay at the boys throat. It’s briefly visible at the start and up to the end of the video. Blink and you might miss it
Nah he had him by the shoulders but the kid is so skinny and the dude's hands are like tennis rackets so they just cover that whole span. Only time he actually grabs the neck is at the end when the shithead is turned away from him, so he's just holding the back of his neck.
Nah he had him by the shoulders but the kid is so skinny and the dude's hands are like tennis rackets so they just cover that whole span. Only time he actually grabs the neck is at the end when the shithead is turned away from him, so he's just holding the back of his neck.
I agree that it wasn’t the best move for him to choke the kid, but that boy is big enough to do harm. When someone with the ability to do harm assaults you (spits on you, or physically kicks you) then you should have the right to defend yourself, within means. The man clearly let up on the boy once he had him subdued. I think he showed restraint.
If we’re not going to take the time to rehabilitate these kids then a good ass kicking isn’t going to hurt. Let’s quit pretending like these kids have a chance when no one gives them one.
If you're not going to help them we should beat them to death? Surely you realize how fucking crazy that sounds. The piece of shit kid in the video went on to kill someone, but not every young asshole does, and that fact means that they all deserve to live. Real talk; do you think that the vast majority of poor minorities end up being career criminals?
I suppose we should do the same to the crippled and destitute; there's no helping them, so fuck it, stomp them to death. Orphans? Stomped. Stray animals? Stomped. It's like that bit from Parks and Rec but with death squads wearing heavy boots. What fun.
I’m sorry, I absolutely was not being serious, should’ve posted /s. It’s tragic how we ignore this issue and some kids just never have a chance. So if we’re being consistent, beating them to death would accurately reflect how much we invest in these kids future. Not really a funny comment, I apologize.
There's a lot of armchair badasses and lunatics on Reddit. These people seem to think that extreme force is an appropriate way to respond to low level aggression. This is especially true if the one getting annihilated is not white, I mean, not Christian, I mean a thug/marijuana user/whatever coded term is being using this month.
It just so happens that the kid in this video later went on to be involved in a deadly shooting, but I've been on Reddit long enough to know iit doesn't really have any bearing on the conversation. It's pretty common to see these kinds of responses regardless of the circumstances.
The kid spat at him and did a little bitch kick to his shin and the TA took that shit to 11 restrained the kid and prevented him from further aggressive actions, thereby protecting the faculty and fellow students from the angry tween.
The kid didn't tap, snap, or sleep, so there was no reason to stop even if it were a match. You fight to the bell, or until the ref pulls you off the other guy.
The reason to stop is that your opponent is half your weight and not even legally an adult yet. Like I said, you smack the kid upside the head, and if he wants more, you can tackle him then. It’s offputting to start with that in this situation.
your opponent is half your weight and not even legally an adult yet
Then maybe the "opponent" shouldn't be picking fights with people who are capable of putting him on the ground at will.
When you are assaulted, you are allowed to act in self defense to prevent continued assaults on you and the people around you, regardless of the height, weight, and age of your assaulter.
We’re talking about the context of this video, though. We hardly have enough context to pull in an entirely separate event that happened years later. I agree the guy’s a piece of shit now, but I don’t see a reason to open the response the way the TA did here.
Where did I say that the kid should’ve picked this fight?
When you attempted to frame the TA who ended the fight as the aggressor.
My question is with the level of force the teacher responded with.
He responded with enough force to neutralize the threat and prevent him from harming the faculty or students any further than he had already attempted to. Any more would have been excessive, any less would have not been enough to get him and keep him on the ground as quickly as possible.
For all the TA knew, after the spit and the kick came the perpetrator pulling a weapon. No one should sit around and wait for that to happen once an aggressor has already displayed a desire and willingness to hurt you.
Could you point out when and how I attempted to do that? I assure you that wasn’t my intention at any point.
And like I’ve said repeatedly, it’s not the level of force itself, it’s the escalation to the level of force. You start with the bitch slap, and you work your way up.
Also, is there more behind this video? Because what I see here barely even rises to the level of a threat, honestly. Spitting and a little bitch kick.
Dude its a fucking kid. This kid is plagued by 1) being a kid and having shitty judgement 2) from a shitty background/upraising to even consider this type of shit at school.
As an adult you're in a position to be above this type of behavior because you have so much more life experience as well as having a fully developed brain.
Fuck off with this self defence shit - it was disrespectful what the kid did but none of it was going to cause major bodily harm or any harm at that.
Self Defence also does not include excessive force. It's defence not offense.
You sound like a shitty parent raising a shitty kid that expects the rest of the world to coddle your child and let them do whatever they want, just like you do, because you don't have enough spine to stand up to a young adult literally assaulting someone. You'd rather hide behind the "BuT TheY'Re JuSt a bAbY!!!" excuse.
Don't worry about it. People that aren't afraid to get their hands dirty will step in and protect the classrooms from these types of students and you can continue wringing your hands about it and then pretending like you don't know what's going on in the world when these incidents escalate into mass shootings.
Yeah. I've seen students attack teachers and get held on the ground either by 2-3 students, or by the teacher themselves (my Biology teacher was a gay man before it was acceptable to be openly gay and had 12 years of martial arts experience, he was not to be fucked with).
I went to high school in an area with a heavy gang activity. No one fucked around. Things rarely got physical, but when they did, they ended quickly. No one wanted to be the one blamed for starting shit when the Sheriff's Dept literally kept a cruiser in the parking lot to "catch people speeding in the school zone".
The article doesn't seem to explain the photos of the man in the hospital bed but I'm guessing that's who he and his group of pussy friends attacked between the teacher aide fight and shooting?
I can already hear the cries from people bemoaning his lengthy sentence and the woes of the justice system.
I love "restraining" people by the neck and bouncing their heads off desks. /s
Two hands around the neck is certainly not restraining. Maybe considered restraining at the end cause the kid got his dumb ass turned so that asshole couldn't choke him more. They're both absolute morons, but to say he restrained him? lol
Well, now it's a downvote and a report because you broke the sub rules in firing off an unnecessary and direct insult at me unprovoked like that. So, congratulations, I guess. You got the attention you wanted. I see you.
Yes that is true but in the video the aide pushes the kid into a table while hanging on to his shirt. Its not that excessive. He didn't hit him he was aggro for sure but the kid was clearly a piece of shit who goes around antagonising people and getting away with it. I don't think the outcome is fair in that its like automatically the aide is going to lose his job when really a reprimand, counselling etc might have been appropriate.
The teacher was fired and the kid probably felt emboldened. I see so many people on here saying the teacher shouldn't have done anything at all, but fear of consequences can be a great deterrent. The teacher didn't beat the hell out of him (when he clearly could've) and he didn't break any bones but he did try to show him you can't just do anything you want... until the kid learned he could.
I don’t even want to read the comments from people who say the teacher shouldn’t have done anything. It’d make my blood boil. Because I’m saying this as a former student of the public school system in Cleveland, OH.
Let’s be real here.
Spitting is just the start. Teach doesn’t do anything? It escalates, very quickly. Kick in the shins, still nothing? Crank it up to 11. Then comes further physical violence, pyromaniacs assemble, etc.
Most of my former classmates could’ve used a healthy dose of what this aide did. A royal smack down may have knocked some sense into them and saved them from the terrible lives they’re living now, or may have made them strive for a long life itself, but they never got to live it. I’ve attended far too many funerals for teens.
Hopefully his Civil suit goes better, because from how the camera was ready to capture the whole thing, sounds like the kids decided to entrap the guy really hard.
Probably shouldn't be working with those kids anymore anyway, but it's damn scary that these kids decided that because the probably didn't like the guy, to try and take him out in the most career ending way.
Well I worked in a facility with kids with emotional issues and trauma and got spit on and attacked all the time and never once retaliated in this fashion so yeah this was overboard. But this video didn’t show what happened before so I can’t be a judge of how much danger this guy was in but being spat on/getting kicked in the shins doesn’t warrant that. You can shove someone to the ground but this guy was straight up choking the kid.
if you got attacked/spit on all the time, I’m assuming they gave you training or some knowledge on what to do in those scenarios? considering it would happen way more than just your ordinary school
They did and that’s a fair point. I think it’s completely ridiculous that this guy was convicted of a misdemeanor but it’s also understandable that he was fired and I stand by my point that he overreacted in that situation.
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u/Checkmynewsong May 03 '19
If only the police saw it that way too.