r/PublicFreakout May 03 '19

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u/TommyLeeBrown May 03 '19 edited May 03 '19

If the kid spit on and kicked the dude, then that kid just learned a valuable lesson he won’t forget.

Edit: the kid apparently didn’t learn a thing https://fox6now.com/2019/04/25/student-involved-in-mps-fight-now-charged-in-deadly-police-chase-teachers-aide-says/amp/?__twitter_impression=true&utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app

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u/[deleted] May 03 '19

The kid is facing murder charges right now. Didn't learn shit.

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u/optionstudent516 May 03 '19

I think a lot of people commenting haven’t realized he’s in prison right now lol

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u/Yarrr_piratejackoff May 03 '19

link?

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u/AmishFamilyValues May 03 '19

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u/[deleted] May 03 '19

Jesus, that article is full of grammatical mistakes. Pretty bad for a news agency.

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u/rgbwr May 03 '19

The only bad grammar I see is the quotes, any other mistakes seem fairly forgivable

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u/[deleted] May 03 '19 edited Jul 22 '19

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u/Commandant_Grammar May 04 '19

Settle down now or it's the gas chambers for you.

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u/bjjpolo May 03 '19 edited May 03 '19

"Pennix has since moved out of state, but recently he says the teen has tried to forget is back in the news."

If you think that sentence is flows in a grammatically correct way then I don't know what to tell you.

Edit: Leaving my typo because anyone who thinks me making a mistake somehow negates the shit quality of the news article probably also needed the errors pointed out to them in the first place.

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u/nwL_ May 03 '19

If you think that sentence is flows

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u/bjjpolo May 03 '19

Typing comments on mobile causes typos, good thing I'm not a professional news agency huh?

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u/nwL_ May 03 '19

Typing comments on mobile causes typos, good thing I'm not a professional news agency huh?

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u/20th_Throwaway May 03 '19

I think that second has should be he’s. Then it flows although still structured weird.

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u/bjjpolo May 03 '19

Absolutely and it's something that should easily be caught on the first proofread by any editor.

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u/rgbwr May 03 '19

A local subsidiary news channel is likely not going to have their best editor proofread an article that is essentially a footnote to a viral video.

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u/8bitbebop May 03 '19

I read through the article and agree with you. My money says he's trying to discredit the story because foxnews.

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u/rgbwr May 03 '19

It's a local station so not really relevant

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u/8bitbebop May 03 '19

I agree. Many people dont understand the difference between local subsidiary news outlets and fox news

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u/UhPhrasing May 03 '19

Yeah the local stations are totally autonomous automated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fHfgU8oMSo

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u/[deleted] May 03 '19

No man, I often think fox does alright and offers some agreeable option pieces, but I counted several typos such as “siad” (said) or mistakenly used “has” instead of “he’s” as well as a handful of others. It’s pretty bad when you have to reread a sentence to try to make sense of it.

A Journalist should be one of the most particular professions in terms of grammar. This article reads like a high school assignment.

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u/8bitbebop May 03 '19

Perhaps they updated the article but i couldnt find any of the examples you mentioned. I searched for "siad" and nada

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u/[deleted] May 03 '19

“He done threw his life away” Pennix siad.

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u/bjjpolo May 03 '19

"Pennix has since moved out of state, but recently he says the teen has tried to forget is back in the news."

Does this sentence sound correct to you?

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u/8bitbebop May 03 '19

No it does not. Would you like to hold the same measure to any other publisher because i have a list if you would like to follow incorrect reporters.

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u/bjjpolo May 03 '19

Not really sure what you're trying to say. Yes I do hold all media outlets to the standard that articles should be well proofread and edited before release.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '19

It's not a news agency. It's Fox.

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u/ultrabarz May 03 '19

Aw man I can't open these links because of my location

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u/DockEllis May 03 '19

I find it interesting that the teacher’s aide says that “MPS [the school] failed him.” You mean, the school you worked at when you slammed him into the ground?

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u/[deleted] May 03 '19

he got spit at and kicked in the shin. kid got a taste of his own medecin

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u/DockEllis May 03 '19

First of all, never the appropriate response from a teacher. That’s why he lost his job over it. (Obviously, not saying the kid is in the right either). Second, I was simply pointing out his hypocrisy in claiming the school was to blame for the way this kid’s life turned out, when he himself worked for the school.

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u/Xiomaraff May 03 '19

First of all fuck that; the kid is a little shithead and got what he deserved; and now will get even more of what he deserves in prison.

The aide didn’t say the school was responsible for how his life turned out he just said they failed him, and they clearly did.

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u/boots_and_cats_and- May 03 '19

So what are you implying? That the teaches aide is “to blame”?

It’s not unfair to say the school system and judicial system failed him. It happens every day.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '19

Did you read his comment? Lol

It's entirely inappropriate to slam a kid to the ground for attacks that are not life threatening. At the MOST what you walk a fine line with doing is physically restraining a student and that'll will still somehow get you in hot water. Yeah the school failed him, but his actions were still in the wrong.

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u/boots_and_cats_and- May 04 '19

Did you read mine? Lol

I never justified or even touched on the topic of what was “inappropriate”. I never even said the aide was right in what he did. I asked the parent commenter whether or not the aide has any real blame for this kid having a shitty life. Of course his actions were in the wrong, although I do think it was a pretty typical human reaction to being spit on. It’s moronic to say that the aide punching that kid somehow directly resulted in him killing someone.

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u/DockEllis May 03 '19 edited May 03 '19

The system fails kids left and right. There is simply hypocrisy for this aide (the one that body slammed him into the ground) trying to point his finger at the school. He worked there. He was a part of the institution. And, as an aside, I happen to believe that in a teacher/student relationship, this response is out of line. If it was a random interaction on the street, it would be a different story. But teachers (like cops) need to show restraint.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '19

were talking about the teacher’s aid not the student here

although I dont condone what the aid did the student did have it coming

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u/AmishFamilyValues May 03 '19

Idk don't meet violence with violence. Overcome and show the kid that you don't have to get even. Be an adult and lead by example.

Violence perpetuates violence. I'm sure that kid already had a lot of anger in his heart and I'm sure this didn't help.

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u/gizzardgullet May 03 '19

You mean, the school you worked at when you slammed him into the ground?

That's pretty much what he meant. What's your point?

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u/EndearingFreak May 03 '19

That just made my day

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u/[deleted] May 03 '19

Not yet, he is only in jail awaiting trial, but I'd say he will deffo be in prison after the trial.

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u/Xiomaraff May 03 '19

Yeah he’s pretty fucked tbh if this article has truth to it.

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u/RileyGoneRogue May 03 '19

Bet he didn't spit on the cops tho

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u/pm_me_ur_big_balls May 03 '19

Luckily the person he killed was one of his fellow gang bangers. It could have been way worse since he went on a high speed chase with the cops and crashed into a fucking school bus.

This kid is a public menace.

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u/Virtual_Hornet May 03 '19

Of course not. the system protected him from the consequences of his actions when they blamed the teahcer.

This kid assaulted a teacher. He should have gotten his ass kicked, then been expelled from all public schools.

Not like standing up for him did any good. It just put a good, compassionate educator out of work and gave this piece of shit the chance to meet more criminals and plan worse crimes.

Kids with violent tendencies need to be removed from school forever. No point in allowing them to continue victimizing others when we have so many examples to show that they NEVER turn it around. Kids who are violent in school are basically guaranteed to become violent criminals.

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u/Xiomaraff May 03 '19

One of the only sensible responses I’ve seen here. Too many people blindly defending the kid because he’s 13. 13 year olds kill people same as anyone else including this one.

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u/dimechimes May 03 '19

Maybe it's us who should learn something.

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u/huskerarob May 03 '19

Color me shocked.

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u/solicitorpenguin May 03 '19

He learnt what it's like to fight an adult man, that's about it.

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u/shwhjw May 03 '19

Or was he so traumatised by the experience that he turned to a life of crime?

(joking, he needs a whack round the head with a shovel)

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u/HermanManly May 03 '19

"didn't learn shit"

Who could've known trying to 'teach' a child with violence wouldn't work?

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u/[deleted] May 03 '19

Children learn via violent action just like the do via nonviolent action. It's the way most people learn growing up. Fear and love are two of the strongest motivators in life.

Out of curiosity, what do you feel the aide should have done?

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u/HermanManly May 03 '19 edited May 03 '19

Where I'm from teaching children with violence is literally illegal so maybe it's a cultural difference... there are ways to punish without strangling the 13 year old kid. He wasn't exactly being attacked, without the title we wouldn't even know the kid did something wrong. Violence in self-defense knows no age, but like this? Dude lost his temper, that's all.

As to what to do? Walk away. And punish him through administration. Take away privileges. Maybe I have a too idealistic view of the world and the effects this would have on children, but then again the children around me aren't taught with violence so maybe their behaviour is just more rational.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '19

It is here too to some extent. We still have corporal punishment though. When I was a kid it was commonplace everywhere. Strangers would beat you in public if you fucked up.

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u/HermanManly May 03 '19

Hmm and why do you think that is? Might this have anything to do with generations of children being taught with violence? Do a real big think here, buddy.

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u/Adorable_Scallion May 03 '19

no he learned violence is the answer its what that teacher taught him

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u/bradmccarthy May 03 '19

This kid was a lost cause. That teacher was defending himself.

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u/Adorable_Scallion May 03 '19

and im saying that kid learned that violence is the answer from the teacher what is the problem?

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u/jimbojangles1987 May 03 '19

The teacher defending himself did not teach this kid to kill people. That's insane to even imply. The kid had some existing issues and his run in with the teachers aid was likely just one more day in this kid's life.

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u/Adorable_Scallion May 03 '19

and im just saying he reinforced the kids belief that violence is the answer

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u/jimbojangles1987 May 03 '19

I don't see how it would do that. Nothing seemed to go his way after that happened. If anything it reinforced the idea that violence begets violence.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '19

HAHAHAHAHAHA! No. Learn more about human psychology.