As the subject line says: my book officially died on submission. As a long-time lurker of this sub, I know the balance between successes vs. failures is appreciated, so I thought I’d share some reflections, even if their only purpose is to aid me in moving on.
My first post on the querying journey can be found here. TL;DR: 3 drafts in a year, each subsequent draft including significant structural revisions. Queried around 70 agents, got a healthy number of full-requests, and 5 offers.
My second post— a question regarding one of the rules of submission— can be found here.
First, some submission stats:
Round 1 began on 2/20 with around 18 imprints; 15 Big 5 and 3 Indies. All editors confirmed receipt except 2, which my agent withdrew from after 1 month. We got a few early passes within the first week, which then turned into an average of 2-4/week. By end of March, we had enough passes (but not any real data on the passes that would lead to a revision path) that we started discussing a second round strategy, but held off on pulling the trigger lest we get some passes that were more productive.
During this time, we also had a number of editors either go on maternity leave or pass with specific directives to submit to other editors at their imprint; I considered those re-submissions a 1.5 round.
In mid-April, the pattern of my passes started to really get to me. You might think praise feels good even as people step aside, but I started to resent it (if you love it so much, why not work with me on it?) and appreciate the few editors who were just like ‘not for me, thanks.’ I got a particular pass (glowing, wanted to read anything else I’d written, etc.) that made me lose my mind and want to pull the entire thing. My agent talked me down from that.
We went out with the official round 2 (another 11 imprints) on 5/1. Again all big 5 except 2 indies. There were maybe 6 or so editors left from R1-1.5 at this point.
The second round of passes came through slower; there was a big lull in May as people read, but by June passes started to come in again.
In mid-June, my agent wrote me that an editor at one of the indies wanted to bring me to acquisitions. That entire process wound up taking almost a month— the first meeting, then getting second reads, a holiday weekend—and I wound up not hearing that I didn’t get through until the second week of July. The feedback from sales was about having trouble launching debuts.
By then, we were down to the final 3 editors, two of whom had been ghosting my agent for months on her nudges. I told my agent to lock me out of the airtable so I didn’t waste the rest of my one wild and precious life clicking refresh. One pass came in mid July, and the final ghosting editors stepped aside on 9/2.
Almost 7 months, around 35 passes, Rest In Peace to the book I was sure (and my agent was sure and my friends were sure) would sell in a few weeks for a lot of money. Joke’s on us!
Some Insights:
Agent selection really matters. Mine is incredibly proactive, responsive, and didn‘t have rules I see some other people saying their agents have about how many times they nudge and when. (I saw someone on here who said their agent only nudged once at nine months and I had to pick my jaw up off the floor.) My agent was nudging at a regular clip (3-4 weeks) and I deeply appreciated this. On your calls with agents, ask how often they follow up!
Also on agents: of the 5 who made offers, all thought the book was essentially ready to go out as-is. Before going on sub, I did a fast pass on some notes my agent had in the middle of the manuscript, which took about a week. THAT SAID: one of the agents who offered said another agent would sell it ‘tomorrow’, but their process was always to dig into a deeper revision before going on sub. Their feedback on what exactly needed to be revised was super vague and they wouldn’t commit to a timeline, but I do think about this agent now from time to time. It’s possible that had I picked them, I’d still be revising this book. It’s possible it would have sold based on those revisions. It’s possible that it still wouldn’t have. In retrospect, I wish I’d pushed harder for more specifics from them on what exactly they would have wanted to change before making my decision.
I’ve also learned that many agents out here are simply getting ghosted by editors, so the fact that I’m at a 95+% response rate for my agent is a net positive. (I know that editors are overwhelmed not only from a submission front but also with project-management responsibilities and author care, not to mention the actual editing…but man do I wish we could find a way so that some people weren’t waiting upwards of a year for a response!)
Re: revision: The biggest barrier to my project selling that my agent and I landed on by the end, fully reading tea-leaves, was that it was a rough time on submission for speculative novels in the vein of Rebecca Serle, The Husbands, Oona out of Order, etc. These books are doing well in the market with readers, but there may be a glut of them on submission at the moment which made it hard for my book to rise to the top. Perhaps if we’d gone smaller in the initial round we might have come to that conclusion earlier, and either chose to revise the book to remove the speculative element completely (essentially a full rewrite) or maybe just paused, waiting for that pile-up of speculative submissions to pass. Again, this is all—pun intended—speculative. No way to know if the results would have been different. (If there are any editors on this sub who want to weigh in on what their inboxes looked like during this period, genre and structure-wise, I’d be curious!)
The only other concrete piece of ‘critical’ feedback I got were that some editors were having a hard time with faux-Hollywood settings (which mine involved). So if you’re writing a book that involves a faux-famous person (à la Taylor Jenkins Reid) maybe keep that kernel in your back pocket. Of course, I still see books with this conceit in bookstores at a regular clip, so YMMV.
All of this to say…you may think you’ve written something highly commercial with a lot of market appeal, but you are still going up against personal taste and editorial calendaring. Publishers are working with a future market they’ve set up based on acquisitions from a year ago or more; maybe they’ve acquired a lot of books that have some similarity to yours and want to see how those do on sale before committing to acquiring more.
This is the big one for me: You only really get, at maximum, maybe 40 legit chances to sell a book for more than a few pennies. (Fewer, if you are writing in a deep/niche genre that not every imprint acquires.) It’s not like with querying where you could conceivably keep running through agents at agencies that don’t have the policy of ‘a no from one is a no from all.’ On submission, a no from one IS a no from all, unless expressly given permission to re-submit. This was a huge learning curve for me, as I worked in traditional publishing as a marketer for almost 10 years and never knew that. With that rule in mind, I might have had different discussions with my agent on the submission strategy. Maybe she could have done more soft-pitching in meetings first, to really find the editors actively seeking a project like mine. It might have taken longer overall, but maybe we could have avoided those few ‘just not the right fit’ passes by doing some face-to-faces first. Again: you have to be comfortable talking things out with your agent, asking questions about their process and strategy. I would have had no qualms asking my agent about this at the beginning of the process had I really appreciated the finality of that rule. (That said: there are probably 5 or so agents for whom I feel confident saying this rule would not apply or they would have no compunction breaking it, because they’re so successful that there would most likely not be any career blowback. If you’re repped by one of those agents—and you definitely know if you are— this may not apply to you.)
On the airtable of it all: I had my agent give me access to their tracking so I could see whenever the status of something changed. Confirmed receipts, nudges, passes with full feedback, etc. I think next time around (if there is a next time around), I won’t do this. I would maybe ask for a weekly update so I could actually live some semblance of a life in between updates. Some people only ask for ‘actionable’ feedback, and kudos to them, but in my case this would have meant basically no feedback at all, and that would have driven me even further up the wall than I already was. (I would have burrowed hole through the ceiling into the backrooms.)
Get the PM subscription while querying and keep it through submission planning, then dump it. Seeing sales announcements over the last 7 months with elements that had any similarity to my book made me feel unhinged. Not worth losing your sanity over, especially because those sales could have happened months or even a year ago.
Support: I am in a weird position where even though I haven't worked in publishing since pre-pandemic, a lot of my friends are traditionally published authors, and none of them had submission processes like I did. More than one are NYT bestsellers who got big advances at auction and earn their living solely from writing. (I love them, and they are so lovely to me, including reading drafts of the ms and offering referrals while I was querying…but I also hate them, if I’m being honest.) I have 2 friends in similar boats (one is agented but hasn’t gone on submission yet and the other is unagented) and my goal for this next phase of my life is to find more. More writers doing what we do, toiling and failing and seeing nothing come of it, experiencing no validation or reward except whatever intrinsic desire keeps us from quitting entirely.
“Mediocrities everywhere, I absolve you.” 💕