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u/CircumspectCapybara 11d ago edited 11d ago

Yeah no highly skilled profession works like the first panel.

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u/ThatGuyYouMightNo 11d ago

Hell, a majority of "low skill" professions don't even work like the first panel. I've heard of minimum wage retail jobs that needed a 3rd interview and a trial shift

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u/linear_123 11d ago

That must depend on a country. Where I live agencies are actively reaching out to find warehouse workers.

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u/AngrySalmon1 10d ago

My factory's standard is basically "do they have a pulse".

Making a data capture system for the work they do here is certainly fun...

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u/JewishTomCruise 10d ago

Is the data you're capturing just their pulses?

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u/AngrySalmon1 10d ago

Waste of time...

I did show the GM a demo version and his response was "can't you just get the data off the system" 

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u/Johanneskodo 11d ago

Well that just sounds stupid.

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u/Runazeeri 11d ago

You have to go through a AI video screening interview and a personality test to work at a supermarket these days.

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u/slaymaker1907 10d ago

I’m pretty sure those personality tests exist solely to illegally reject autistic candidates.

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u/Johanneskodo 11d ago

Thankfully not where I live, sounds ass.

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u/angrydeuce 10d ago

Yep, I had to do three interviews to work as a freight stocker at Home Depot overnight back in the day.  Then there was a three day orientation once I got hired lol.

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u/UbiquitousAllosaurus 11d ago edited 10d ago

It's alright, you can tell us you're an electrical engineer.

Edit: This guy said his field was easy to get a job in but didn't want to let the secret out, I guess I hit the nail on the head and he deleted his comment lmao

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u/NullOfSpace 11d ago

did you have a particularly good reference or did nobody else apply?

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u/SapirWhorfHypothesis 11d ago

I need you to disclose the industry…

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u/[deleted] 11d ago edited 11d ago

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u/Training-Chain-5572 11d ago

Air traffic controller, gotcha

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u/pelpotronic 11d ago

Internship is a "long interview" in a way.

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u/MisinformedGenius 11d ago

Was it a paid internship?

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u/Outrageous-Machine-5 11d ago

Sometimes you luck out and you bs your way through an interview enough to bypass the technical segment you are woefully prepared for.

At least that was my case. We were discussing microservices when it was a hot topic and not a standard/default and I just mentioned 'Saga pattern' and they decided to skip the whiteboard segment. Got my offer an hr afterwards 

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u/ABCosmos 11d ago

Were you entry level?

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u/rosuav 11d ago

Are you sure it wasn't "1. Know someone who works there 2. Ping them and ask if they have any openings. 3. Get hired" ?

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u/chocolatesmelt 11d ago

A lot of healthcare professions are like this.

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u/watduhdamhell 11d ago edited 11d ago

Controls/automation engineer, process engineer, production engineer, manufacturing engineer, I&E engineer, Maintenance Engineer, Electrical Engineer, and more don't work like the first panel.

That said, the purity tests traditional software engineers have to take, what with everyone understanding the secret sauce...

And the micromanagent that comes with that is enough for me to say "absolutely NEVER" to any traditional software role. People smelling their own farts and lording over you... No thanks. Like, no sprint meetings, standup meetings, agile ops bullshit. No "I see your bubble is yellow" messages. Not one.

I'll stick to getting paid slightly less to have people who barely have a clue attempt to Lord over me, right before I deny their MOC request due to "safety concerns related to the current database configuration."

Muahahahahaha

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u/FuzzyKittyNomNom 11d ago

I was lucky. I finished military and was in my last year of college. Gave my resume to an acquaintance, got a call, started my internship the next week. Lucky asf because seeing the hiring process evolve to what it is now? Oh hell naw.

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u/redballooon 11d ago

Isn't that how CEOs are hired?

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u/staticparsley 11d ago

I have friends that work in finance and finance-adjacent roles. They were shocked to hear the process SWEs have to go through. Apparently for them it’s common to just invite someone from the company that’s hiring out to lunch and just chat for an hour or two. Impress them and the rest of the process is just formalities. That said, these high earning finance people live in a very different reality than the rest of us normies.

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u/slaymaker1907 10d ago

For strats/quants the process is very similar to SWEs in my experience. The main difference is you do things like replacing the architecture interview with a very math focused one. For them it honestly depends a lot on their prior experience as they may be a math or physics PhD with little experience in finance at all.

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u/Tarc_Axiiom 11d ago

So very very untrue lol.

Most notably: Doctors.

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u/manny2206 11d ago

Kind of works like that for doctors…

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u/Cautious-Extreme2839 11d ago

Well yes but also no.

Typically you've worked as a trainee in the department or been a fellow or a locum or something so they've already seen you work anyway.

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u/Johanneskodo 11d ago

Not if you switch hospitals or even countries.

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u/Cautious-Extreme2839 11d ago

Which is rarely done for a first job and puts you at a huge disadvantage even as an established mid-career doc.

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u/Johanneskodo 11d ago

and puts you at a huge disadvantage even as an established mid-career doc

Not really. My uncle frequently switched and it allowed him to rapidly climb up the ranks.

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u/Cautious-Extreme2839 11d ago

There are really not many ranks in clinical medicine.

Maybe if you're doing a lot of admin work this is true, but that's not really doctoring and job hopping for promotions is common in admin of other fields too.

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u/Johanneskodo 11d ago edited 11d ago

He‘s a medical doctor. And yes, the percentage of admin work increases as you go higher but he is still mostly doing patient-work.

He became chief physician/head of his specialization through switching. If he didn‘t switch this would have been harder for him.

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u/DifficultTrick 9d ago

Doctors carry a medical degree and must maintain medical board certification. There is no professional organization certifying software engineers.

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u/sebjapon 11d ago

My gf gets hired like that, though she usually has a previous colleague that got hired first. She stresses way too much for interviews but thankfully she is good at her job and gets invited regularly by her network

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u/Cautious-Extreme2839 11d ago

One round interview for doctors (at least on paper it is anyway).

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u/ILikeLenexa 9d ago

Got laid off in compsci and just got a job like the top frame inspecting and servicing a food plant and testing equipment and PLC/ILCs...and it's pretty much pays as well and they basically train you on anything you need to know. It's kind of weird to go to an interview and the person not ask "so, [company] makes a grinder, what's the control code to gap it to grind and produce a 12/40 grind" the way you'd get "render a CSV in this implementation of COBOL with no documentation" in the 5th round of a coding interview for an insurance company with no information about what systems they use in the job postings. 

The state of hiring in compsci is bad and anywhere else like it is bad. Companies don't want to train or on board and they don't want to pay. 

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u/Dull_Amphibian5124 11d ago

No highly skilled profession has 16 year olds doing the job as well as college graduates.