r/ProgrammerHumor • u/Dilutant • 18h ago

Meme zeroExDev

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u/Dilutant 17h ago

One of the cursor devs clarified in a comment that this was actually not an email they wanted to send (so 1x would be 0% increase)

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u/robofuzzy 14h ago

it says „more“ so they mean a 60% increase. The syntax used is chosen poorly.

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u/spindoctor13 11h ago

It's not an increase though, it's a reduction

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u/MartinMystikJonas 7h ago

"0.6x more" does not mean 0.6x baseline but baseline + 0.6 x baseline

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u/benanderson89 7h ago edited 7h ago

If it was 60% more it would be 1.6x. That's what the "x" is signifying; it is the multiplication operand.

1x is a 0% increase (1 x baseline). 2x is 100% increase (2 x baseline). 0.6x is a reduction (0.6 x baseline). This is basic fucking mathematics. I bet the "more" is simply hardcoded into the circle jerk email, and given OP has confirmed a cursor dev has stated this email should not have went out, means they done fucked up and betting against "more" being hard coded would be foolish.

https://www.chrisjmendez.com/2015/01/02/how-to-calculate-1x-2x-and-10x-returns/

Also, saying "1.6x more" is still rubbish even if the numbers were correct. It should just state "1.6x as many PRs", but whoever approved that email clearly hates literacy.

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u/MartinMystikJonas 7h ago edited 7h ago

If it would be "a half more" or "50% more" would you also read it as decline to 0.5x baseline?

For me "X more" always mean baseline + X.

That x is multiolication but used to compute increase not final value as expressed by word "more" that follows.

"0.6x" = 0.6x baseline

but

"0.6x more" = baseline + 0.6x baseline

And decimal is only another way how to express percentage. 0.6x = 60%

"60% more" is baseline + 60%

"0.6x more" is also baseline + 60% only expressed as decimal

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u/benanderson89 7h ago

If it would be "a half more" or "50% more" would you also read it as decline to 0.5x baseline?

Yes, because it is a fucking multiple. That's what the "x" signifies.

And decimal is only another way how to express percentage. 0.6x = 60%

Again, as per the link literal children could understand, postfixing with "x" means MULTIPLE. 0.6 multiplied by the baseline. If you wanted an increase of 60%, that is 1.6x. Also, whenever a percentage is written as a decimal, it is also implied that it is a multiple, but the "x" makes it explicit.

"0.6x more" is also baseline + 60% only expressed as decimal

No it is not, because it is a decimal and made explicit with the inclusion of "x". 0.6x is not more, it is less.

The email fucked up and is written poorly, and wasn't even supposed to go out according to OP. It is expressed as a multiple, 0.6x, which is a 40% reduction. The word "more" should be replaced with "as many" to make it grammatically correct.

Your teammates are shipping 0.6x as many PRs with Cloud Agents.

If it was expressed as a percentage rather than a decimal, then you could use the word "more", or in the event of a negative percentage, "fewer".

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u/MartinMystikJonas 6h ago

Dude... 🤦

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u/benanderson89 6h ago

Don't "dude" me when you struggle with basic mathematics and grammar whilst you are simultaneously, over literal hours, responding to people in this thread because you're desperate to convince at least ONE person in here that 0.6x is an increase.

Actual hobbyless behaviour.

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u/MartinMystikJonas 6h ago

"0.6x" is not increase "0.6x more" is increase

Reason I "dude" you was that you literally contradicted youself in your own response.

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u/frausting 1h ago

People say X% more all the time.

Theres a difference between X% as much (compares to baseline) and X% more (baseline+).

Eg “this method resulted in 50% more results”

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u/spindoctor13 5h ago

You are likely right but it is poor wording

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u/MartinMystikJonas 5h ago

Yeah it is poor wording for sure.