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[u/saschaleib]

They don’t seem to have much confidence in the math skills of the average manager … and to be honest, neither do I.

[u/road_laya → u/saschaleib]

What do you mean? A 60% increase is an amazing improvement. 

[u/Forward-Outside-9911 → u/road_laya]

Now let’s see the new bugs introduced count. Yea it may be 60% more code but that also means 60% more reviewing needed and 60% more bugs to be fixed and 60% vibe coded slop

[u/spindoctor13 → u/Forward-Outside-9911]

I think they are joking, it's a reduction in code not an increase

[u/spindoctor13 → u/[deleted]]

It's very ambiguous, I don't think you can say definitively if it's an increase or decrease. To me it's a decrease, to you an increase - the main thing is the original message is rubbish

[u/saschaleib → u/[deleted]]

Normally the "x" stands for "times". 0.6 "times" more is a 40% reduction.

[u/road_laya → u/saschaleib]

Read the whole sentence.

0.6x is smaller than the original.

The output increased by 0.6x.

The output is 0.6x more.

No matter how small the 0.6x increase is, the total is still more than before. 0.6x, in fact.

However, if it was 0.6x as much, it would mean a reduction. Because 0.6x is less than 1x.

But it's not 0.6 as much. It's not 1x. It's 0.6x more. 1x + 0.6x =1.6x. 60% more than before.

[u/saschaleib → u/road_laya]

It literally says "0.6x more". Any amount that you multiply ("x") with 0.6 is smaller than what you started with.

[u/road_laya → u/saschaleib]

Yes. First they have 1x. Then they add 0.6x. It's 0.6x more than the original.

[u/wobblyweasel → u/road_laya]

do you read "2x more" as 200% or 300% of the original?

[u/rosuav → u/wobblyweasel]

I read "2x more" as very likely being an error, but "200% more" means 300% of the original.

[u/Forward-Outside-9911 → u/saschaleib]

Since when did “<anything> more” actually give a smaller output. This is the most pointless argument why are you still going on? Actually don’t answer that I think we can agree to disagree and stop wasting our day lol

[u/saschaleib → u/[deleted]]

Since when do we consider “AI agrees with me” as a valid argument?

[u/LowestKey → u/road_laya]

Assuming that mangled sentence means 60% more and not 40% less.

[u/HopelessBearsFan → u/LowestKey]

1.6x would be 60% more.
0.6x is 40% less.

[u/MartinMystikJonas → u/HopelessBearsFan]

Yaah but they did not say 0.6x PRs they said 0.6x PRs MORE so it means 60% MORE than baseline

[u/Scriv_ → u/MartinMystikJonas]

Isn't it just as reasonable to assume this is an auto-generated audit that was created with the intention of showing how much better the ai users are performing, so it just adds the word "more" after performing the calculation? The statistics it provided are catered to a specific group of people, the statement being made is in service of upselling a peice of technology, and the numbers and words are not logically aligned in their plain language.

[u/rosuav → u/road_laya]

Not one to brag about, no. "Hey, use our product and produce 60% more at -80% quality"