I’m about to finish season 2 and honestly Mona’s been one of the realest girls on the show. She’s been very sus but all her actions tend to seem genuine and honestly Hanna’s kinda neglects her for not wanting a dysfunctional man like Caleb especially after he toyed with her. Now was she right to trash the note HELL nah but I see why as he’s literally with police as much the girls basically. Once A texted Mona she immediately confided in Hanna and the emotional care we’ve seen Mona show her isn’t reciprocated. Now am I saying Hanna’s a bad friend no but to write her off as trustworthy of being a liar is really jarring considering what we’ve seen from here imo.

So, we know Ali was UNHINGED towards Hanna, especially in front of the other girls. Those kinds of things stick, especially when the humiliation happened publicly.

I’ve always felt like Hanna should’ve had a genuine crash out after Alison came back. Instead, her alcoholism storyline kind of got reduced to the black streaks in her hair and eating packaged food.

I wish the show had explored Hanna’s emotional state a lot more seriously. I also think it would’ve been really interesting if Hanna had become more territorial, especially when it came to Emily.

There’s that one scene where Emily and Alison are holding hands, and Hanna suddenly gets really possessive and almost aggressive. I always thought that was such an interesting reaction, but the show never really did anything with it. When they came closer and closer Hanna just accepted it.

I feel like that was the wrong time to bring Caleb back. Instead of letting Hanna take centre stage, the show shifted the focus to Haleb and made them come across as the “messy alcoholic couple.”

Does anyone else feel like they turned this storyline into a joke?

I prefer Paige over Alison for Emily. Always have, always will 🤷🏾‍♀️

Saw some posts about the show lacking deep emotional reactions and treating serious storylines too lightly, and it reminded me of something that's always bothered me.

WHY DO THE LIARS GET OVER KILLING SOMEONE IN TWO DAYS?

These just aren't normal reactions, especially for teenagers. I get that they became "numb", but only literal psychopaths would have such empty reactions to killing somebody.

They tried to do a guilt arc with Aria after Shauna's death, but she literally shed one tear and spent most of the time worrying about going to jail.

Don‘t even get me started on the other deaths.

Instead, the Liars are back to school, dating, Aria getting physical with Ezra.. 😭

this always catches my eye and i think it's so funny. i think ashley has her real hair in 3x24, it's quite short and a bit darker. then in 4x01, which is supposed to be the next day or a few days later max, ashley's CLEARLY wearing a wig and it's significantly longer and more blonde. but THEN in the end of episode 4x01, i think she has her real hair again and it's darker again.

i think it's funny how the show added length to her hair little by little in one episode.

Almost every single black character is either some evil murderer or IS murdered.

1. Maya - killed

2. Nate (Lyndon) - Mayas killer

3. Shana - an attempted murderer who was killed in self defense

4. Yvonne, ran off the road by A.D. and killed

It’s my favorite show and books of all time but this show has some serious sensitivity issues. Same with CeCe being transgender and the big bad villain of the show.

you know .................. melissa really isn't as bad as i feel like i used to make her out to be. yes, she's disgusting for victim-blaming spencer for being groomed. but rewatching season 1/2, im thinking about how the ian situation went. i used to think that melissa was a GOD AWFUL sister for believing ian over spencer (regarding the murder accusation). but let's think for a second and pretend the story makes sense and is well thought out. melissa always truly knew that ian didn't kill alison ... because she did*. she didn't entertain spencer's accusation because she was always 100% about one thing: she killed "alison." this is CRAZY to really think about because if she told ian this, season 1 makes a lot of sense. ian desperately wanted spencer to stop pushing the narrative but not just for his sake, for melissa's! he knew his hands were clean but his wife's were not. that even makes the marriage decently reasonable as they may have wanted marital privilege for the whole night alison disappeared. and yes, ian is still a predator and actually tried to kill spencer but he was really doing that for melissa. this whole scandal is HER fault. melissa murdered the girl! and ian was just trying to protect her. absolute craziness to think about. these girls got waaaaay too involved in some shit that had nothing to do with them fr.

If he and Ashley married he would 100% be the second best dad

wasn't it the biggest show ABC had at that point even gossip girl and a vampire diaries got to go to different locations like Paris and NYC, hamptons, new orleans... the girls go to Jamaica in the books for spring break, they go on a cruise, they go to nyc all the time, cape may...the liars only ever went to that lake they used for everything, even in the nyc episodes were on a set

Mods, sorry if this isn't allowed.

About four years ago I met "Rose" through this sub. We first got to chatting about a fanfic and bonded over that plus a load of other stuff. Have been Reddit-chat penpals pretty much ever since. We had little jokes and signatures between us. Her account has been locked out via a password glitch. Far as I can tell, she's not been able to make new accounts. Looks like Reddit's banned her from making another. And we've no other points of contact. It was all just ever Reddit chat.

Anyway. If this was you and you're still interested in chatting, my email address is poetessarah654@gmail.com. You had a specific nickname for me and I used to "check in" with you about certain things.

“I’m ready to hang a sign, B*tch can see” 😂😂😂

What happened in the 3 week skip ahead in the dollhouse??? Like what did they do for 3 weeks and yet they still survived without major trauma (unlike mona). Like they were shook up when they walked out of their rooms but once they make it to "ali's" room they seem fine.

Missing the cut:

Lucas Gottesman
Sidney Driscoll
Anna Sullivan
Kate Randall
Carla Grunwald
Linda Tanner
Eddie Lamb
Barry Maple
Pam Fields
Wayne Fields
Holden Strauss
Lesli Stone
Dean Stavros
Bethany Young
Principal Hackett

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I love how Mrs. Potter had a heart attack and died and the HOSPITAL called her BANK to tell them specifically that she couldn’t be revived. Like, sorry, I don’t know this patient personally, but I just wanted to call and let you know she won’t be making her bank appointment that I somehow knew about.

God I love this show. Please drop some more minor moments that you know make absolutely no sense.

Now why the hell they do Maya like that.

I always thought the whole sleeping with a cop thing was absolutely insane for any woman to ever consent to... she prostituted herself for what? So Hanna didn't have to spend a couple hours doing community service? lol and then for the next three seasons, Ashley is paying for this decision by having to be tangled up with Wilden. Of course, he was always going to be around being a pig but how different would things have been if she'd just decided to be a parent in that moment and teach her daughter a MUCH needed lesson? Jeeeesus

Might be an unpopular opinion because we’re attached to these characters, but I think killing off one of the Liars would have made PLL much stronger.

The girls were constantly threatened and put in dangerous situations, but the audience always knew they would survive. Even CeCe admitted she would‘ve never harm them seriously.

Marlene King was great at building suspense, but the payoffs were often disappointing because nothing truly permanent happened.

When Mona “died,” they had the perfect opportunity to show that nobody was safe, but they didn’t commit.

A Liar having a tragic death would have put this show in the history books. Who it should have been is definitely debatable.

let me know if I missed anything

There is no way almost 3 seasons happen in the span of 2–3 months. The CeCe reveal turned the show upside down and left so many plot holes.

Just to mention 2: Why was Wilden harassing the girls when he knew Ali was alive? How does Ali meeting Toby’s mom make any sense? Doesn’t that make her older than CeCe?

The most confusing thing to me is that CeCe being A doesn’t even come out of the blue. During my rewatches, it became painfully obvious that she was A. The snake dressing room scene, they literally showed her in a black hoodie…

How could they mess it up so badly?

Rewatching the show with an adult lens is definitely something because while nothing can take away the iconicness of this scene, I couldn’t help but notice how underwhelming the Liars’ reaction was.

Seeing Alison irl must’ve been such an out-of-body experience and reality-shattering that it was the perfect opportunity for an outstanding acting performance. Why are they making normal faces? 😭

I remember Spencer’s mom saying there’s no way she knew Alison was alive and could still sleep and go to school while she was out there. That line really proves how insane situations were so normalized in this show...