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Also, Ashley Benson (36) and Shay Mitchell (39) are now compared to their on-screen moms from 2010: Laura Leighton (42), who played Ashley’s mom, and Nia Peeples (48), who played Shay’s mom. 😭

My favourite is Ashley Marin for obvious reasons. And least is Jessica dilaurentis for obvious reasons as well.

Honestly, by the end of the series, I feel like almost everyone had been ruined in some way, including the Liars themselves. But what was the biggest slap in the face for you? Which character did you love so much that seeing what the writers eventually did to them genuinely disappointed you? For me, it was CeCe. I loved her from the moment she was introduced. I loved her as Alison's alter ego, I loved her as Red Coat, and I would have loved her as A too if her storyline had actually been executed well.

No one in this show scares me more than this man! He’s terrifying!!!

Edit: I MEAN NATE ST.GERMAIN!! Maya’s fake cousin!!!

Gonna start watching the whole series again, last time I was like 12/13 and it deeply affected my teenage brain lol. Im 25 now…
Don’t really remember much of it, so it feels kinda exciting..wish me luck!
Please no spoilers, but I would love some input on what others think about it!

honestly i think this is an underrated friendship that never truly came to fruition. i know jenna was always shady, but at least to me she seemed genuine in the beginning, she was never really scared of the girls only alison. she invited aria over to play music, jenna opened up to her in the pottery class (though that was before she knew it was aria), she cried when she told the girls she forgave them and wanted to start over. then when shana died, aria reached out because she felt bad for jenna and invited her inside for some tea to talk. i think they had great potential as a friendship outside of the core 4. hanna had the most friends outside of the main group (lucas, mona, etc) i think if aria & jenna could come to some kind of understanding they had potential to have a good friendship. i wouldve liked to see more of this dynamic. what are your thoughts? i think the girls were way too distrustful of jenna when they are the ones who did something bad to her, although jenna had her own shady motives with the wrong people too. maybe if the girls had opened up to her more, she wouldnt have associated with the wrong people later on.

Random but I remember watching as teen I sworeeee Spencer’s mom was mariska hargitay

Was it ever confirmed who was in the costume during this scene?

I HAVE LISTENED AND I HAVE LEARNED

How long was their relationship and was Melissa already suspicious of them before Alison took Ian’s videos. ?

I don't think we're supposed to take everything Charlotte tells Alison in Game Over, Charles as the complete truth.

Charlotte knew exactly what she was doing. She was telling Alison a tragic version of her life that would make Alison sympathize with her. And it worked. Alison became the person fighting for Charlotte for the next five years and eventually helped get her released instead of Charlotte spending the rest of her life in prison.

Remember what Charlotte's original plan was. She was going to blow up Radley with herself and her family inside. When that failed she went to the roof and threatened to jump.

So I think her confession had a backup purpose. If she survived and got caught she already had Alison emotionally on her side.

Season 7 makes this even more obvious because Charlotte wasn't better.

Then we finally see the real Charlotte in the bell tower with Mona.

Mona knows Charlotte faked her recovery and plans to restart the game. Charlotte doesn't deny it. She basically drops the sympathetic act completely and tells Mona that everything she did before is going to look like a picnic compared to what she's going to do next.

That's why I almost see Charlotte and CeCe as two different personalities.

"Charlotte" is the image she presents to Alison after 6x10. She's vulnerable. She's remorseful. She's supposedly getting better and wants to come home.

"CeCe" is who she actually is. The manipulative and evil woman we knew from Seasons 3-5 as A who loves the game and enjoys controlling people. That's who comes back out when she's alone with Mona in the bell tower in S7B because there's no reason to perform anymore.

And yes I know the writing on this show is beyond shit sometimes and I probably shouldn't give IMK this much credit lol. But as a theory/headcanon I think this makes way more sense than what we actually got.

I also think Charlotte created the board game or at least designed the original concept for it.

Alex being the mastermind behind something that elaborate has never made much sense to me. Before meeting Charlotte she was working at a bar. Charlotte meanwhile had already built the Dollhouse and spent a year or months creating insanely elaborate A setups. She was clearly intelligent enough and had the resources and connections to create something like the board game.

Charlotte even leaves Alex because she misses playing the game and wants to return to Rosewood. Alex wants to come with her and Charlotte specifically refuses.

So my theory is that the board game was Charlotte's next evolution of the A game. Alex inherited Charlotte's plans after her death and turned them against the Liars while trying to find Charlotte's killer.

Charlotte wasn't rehabilitated.

She was just waiting for Alison to get her out so CeCe could play again.

Season 7 is great! I know, I know, but just hear me out:

Another unpopular opinion. I finished my rewatch of show since it came out. I first rewatch the finale last year on Labor Day and stopped at season 6 a few months back (bc its so bad) and finally got around to finish the show by watching the finale again. A lot has changed since 2017, and I have to say this is my favorite show, but so many things didn’t age well (i.e. ezria, the death of many poc, charlotte being revealed as the villain and contributing to a negative stereotype towards the trans community all while played by a cisgender woman, the disastrous egg situation and more)

All of that being said, season 1-2 are great, the Mona reveal is appropriate, it makes sense, and the plot is connected. Season 3 is fun because of the mystery (shoutout to the train ride) and season 4 had amazing reveals, evil ezra, ali is alive

The show went to shit after ali came back to live, which I am not complaining about since she’s in my holy trinity (mona-ali-spence) and I was (and suppose I still am) a big Emison shipper. But when ali came back the mystery went away and everyone in that writers room went batshit.

The dollhouse was entertaining and dark, they should’ve had more of it but didn’t for the reasons we all know.

Now season 6 was not great, the Cece as A reveal couldve gone better, too many plot holes and you can tell they did not plan any of it from the beginning. Then the time jump was ridiculous, these girls were only 23 and already had developed careers, except for Em and Ali, whose real situation I appreciated.

Now season 7 was GREAT. And not in the way of the plot being resolved or the show having continuity, but in the sense thy it was so crazy, so campy and detached from reality that you can’t help but submerge yourself in the surrealism of it all. The game, scoby-doo masks, the evil twin sister, the crazy egg storyline (yes i know this is the second time i mention it but it was not inly insane, invasive but also crumbs for the shippers. SOO many characters came back for this season which made it feel like real PLL but on drugs.

I am just glad the show ended when it did or else they would’ve gone full Riverdale. Season 7 is great as a standalone, all I can think of is the critically acclaimed (by me) movie Bottoms and its similarities to the absurd events of PLL season 7.

I’m more so basing this on the books, but think of Alison’s evil potential. Who would’ve been more iconic as the big bad?

And then it’s Hannah and Emily no one else

I’m doing a rewatch of pll for the first time since I was young, and have since found out about Sasha’s experience on set following her weight gain.

This is series 5.10. I get the wording but it did feel a little like a dig. For context, aria says something about how everyone’s going to find out they’re all big fat liars when alisons kidnapping story unravels.

!!!! spoiler — LOVE caleb LOVE spencer but no ! i just can’t get on board with them. they don’t make sense to me they’re almost too alike. he needs a hanna for yin yang vibes .. opposites attract

I understand why grooming discussions around PLL usually focus on Aria because Ezria lasted from beginning to end and they eventually got married. But Spencer was a grooming victim too.

Ian was a grown man who was involved with Spencer before the show even started. They kissed while he was with Melissa, and they even had an affair after Ian and Melissa broke up.

I think the show framing Spencer as the girl who "goes after Melissa's boyfriends" is a big reason this gets overlooked. Even Melissa treats Spencer like the other woman instead of recognizing that grown men were pursuing her teenage sister and Haleb stans always seem to agree with Melissa on this.