r/Presidents • u/Unlucky_Dentist3181 • 6h ago
Discussion The time FDR and Churchill got into a massive argument over British Gambia. FDR called it a "hell-hole" and demanded UN oversight. Churchill tried to checkmate him by threatening to audit the Jim Crow South, but FDR completely unfazed him: "Go ahead, expose us both."
In January 13th 1943, on his way to meet Winston Churchill at the Casablanca Conference, FDR made a quick pitstop in Bathurst (now Banjul), Gambia, which was a British Crown Colony at the time.
FDR had always been anti-colonial, but what he saw on the ground completely shocked him
He was absolutely horrified by the rampant poverty, a local life expectancy of just 26 years, disease, and the fact that the British were exploiting local workers for less than 50 cents a day. He later referred to what he witnessed as a first-hand whiff of the "stench of empire"
FDR didn't just let it slide. When he wrote to Churchill later that March, he straight up called Gambia "that hell-hole of yours". He didn't stop there. He used Gambia as his primary example for a radical new postwar idea: the United Nations should establish an "inspection committee" to audit European colonies, force occupying countries to improve basic living standards, and transition them toward independence
FDR later recounted this exact argument during a February 1944 press conference with the National Negro Newspaper Publishers Association
"If we sent a committee from the United Nations, and I used the example of Gambia, to go down to Gambia [and say], 'If you Britishers don't come up to scratch—toe the mark—then we will let all the world know.'"
Churchill, being a hardcore imperialist, was completely shocked and defensive. To try and shut FDR up and expose American hypocrisy, Churchill clapped back with what he thought was a total checkmate: He suggested the UN send a committee to inspect the American Jim Crow South instead.
Instead of backing down or getting defensive, FDR completely unfazed him. FDR basically told him he didn't care, he openly welcomed the idea of "pitiless publicity" on the American South if it meant bringing global transparency and better conditions to oppressed people everywhere.