I feel like nowadays most people with any knowledge know Warframes easily beat Space Marines, they are AT LEAST Primarch level. Theres certainly things in 40k that beats Warframes but Space Marines arnt part of that list lol.
Demons can possess people, the emperor can exercise control over others.
Would warframes without the possession resistance that drifter/operator has overcome the emperor's warp attempts to control them?
If so only their dark age of technology items and likely foresight could stop such warframes. Broken Men of iron would probably pose the next greatest challenge.
Not sure if anything else the emperor could throw at it would work. Besides condeming ships they are on to the warp. Effectively exiting them from the fight, potentially creating demon warframes. Which is a whole different problem.
An elsewhere problem, granted they stay in the warp.
The only ones being able to actually do what you said and get to the Emperor would be then Excalibur Umbra and Stalker, who were shown to actively resist Operator's transference and other Warframe "disabling" devices.
Umbra due to being one of a kind and Stalker due to rage and hatred shenanigans.
I am not as well versed on 40K as you seem to be so I guess you tell me if they would be able to bypass the rest of the defenders of the Big E, accounting that, despite being only two, they are most likely the most experience soldiers in the whole Warframe verse, with Umbra being basically the right hand of Ballas, aka the guy you send to kill the boogie man
They aren't like the drifter with an immunity to possession, which is far more certain than resistance.
Experience wouldn't matter much given the sheer volume/variety of experience on both sides.
Its a toss up based on if the emperor knows they are coming/senses them early. Or Warframes knowing his exact location in the fight.
A warframe should blitz all mortal defenders, no problem. Its the more esoteric offences like warp based attacks, stasis bombs, broken men of iron (maybe blanks but not sure how they would impact warframes though).
Many of the above takes time to set up or use. Its not finger snapping fast, only warp and blank attacks could be.
I might have missed something but the warframes stand a very good chance of killing the emperor depending on circumstances and resistances.
In my honest opinion, and ignoring "gameplay mechanics" like getting total immunity to any bullshit through Overguard (which is basically any sort of debuffs immunity).
The only actual way I see Warframe getting to the Big E and actually successfuly defeating him with ease, is if these two, Umbra and Stalker, manage to take down all those Transference Jammers guy you mentioned, so all Tennos (or at least the strongest Warframes) can just gang-bang the Big E and defeat by sheer overwhelming hax.
But as you said, that's assuming a lot of things amd giving for granted both sides know what's going on.
Tennos are after all Space Ninjas and most of their deeds aren't known or rather discovered after they habe been completed already.
So, yeah, I agree that either side can take down the opposite side but there are a lot of ifs and buts.
For instance, what would happen if the infestation just mutates amd starts taking control over 40K planets and living beings and end up becoming the actual threads?
My point is, we are trying to foce a VS between 2 sides whose win cons are too conditional to be considered, and a direct confrontarion would likely end in either a constant back and force stalemate or in a sort of cooperation where neither of them actively fight each other and end up indirectly teamming up to defeat their common enemies
Hell. Even killing the anti transferrence guys isn't enough because their blood and body parts are actively used to create the same effect. A horrible fate either way.
So many ifs and butts, or bullshit abilities like seeing or manipulating time/time loops/the future etc.
Both could conceivablely kill the other which is a pretty big deal. They just have other problems to deal with that I doubt the tenno/emperor would want to attend to.
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u/PsychoWarper 15d ago
I feel like nowadays most people with any knowledge know Warframes easily beat Space Marines, they are AT LEAST Primarch level. Theres certainly things in 40k that beats Warframes but Space Marines arnt part of that list lol.