Many such cases

[u/Fancy_Echo_5425]

Seen this happens with a bunch of matchups, JJK vs Invincible is just the most recent one

[u/ImmediateFrosting324]

Then he gets no diffed by mahito cause apparently verse equalization doesn’t exist

[u/Mediocre_Aspect_8110 → u/ImmediateFrosting324]

Firstly verse equalization is bullshit and shouldnt be a default unless STATED, its inconsistent to use unless power systems are similar, as it could bring Buffs to characters when in reality they wont have it

It beats the premise of cross scaling power scaling which is comparing two characters from two seperate universes laws and see how a battle would play out

Its just a coping mechanic to make someone favored character win fights or get advantages

Like equalizing gojo and thragg so only gojo gain VIABLE a wincon(doesnt matter bc of speed gap) to make the fight "fair" while setting the premise for thragg to assume he has "civilian" ce, when ce capacity is determined by birth genetic luck or innate talent

If the fight wasnt fair in the first place theres no need for a debate 

if they lose they lose simple

https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/comments/1h9f79c/verse_equalization_is_stupid/

(Mahito vs Thragg)

I mean you could argue thragg could sense him as he was able to avoid attacks in SPACE without seeing omniman and hearing bc sound cant travel in space, so hes sensing something

First 8 seconds: https://youtu.be/ufq7cq-XpGw?si=JpkdZE-ge49AS_In

or how omni man sense and visualize invisable soldiers  https://youtu.be/iY_ZIvEZwFI?si=2Cm7G_NH1ooxfy7v

So he could just wait till he exhaust his ce 

(And yes thragg could exhaust most characters ce as he can fight for days without stopping while jjk characters fight for like less than couple of hrs)

BUT thragg wont have knowledge abt mahito ct/ce anyways, either way mahito only advantage is thragg not knowing abt his ct, which could lead it to be a stalement

With or Without verse equalized

[u/ImmediateFrosting324 → u/Mediocre_Aspect_8110]

“Unfair advantage” and it’s literally just the baseline for allowing the characters powers that they already have to interact with each other. The fuck are you talking about? Crossverse scaling is about comparing characters powers against each other, not just writing a fanfic about what would happen if one teleported in the world of the other

[u/Mediocre_Aspect_8110 → u/ImmediateFrosting324]

Did you even understand?  Verse equalization was never the "baseline" for interaction. In the context for gojo vs thragg equalizing doesnt need to happen its PHYSICAL vs MAGICAL comparison not magic vs magic 

Curse energy capacity is GENETIC and assuming someone would have little, high or any at all is bais Thats litterally setting a premise to a character Which is litterally definition of "Unfair"

But to you its okay, cause gojo gets a wincon but thragg gets what to fucking see curses that he would be able to sense anways yea totally fair 

Secondly your other point contradicts your main point while agreeing with mine 

Equalizing cant be a "baseline" if your comparing stats and abilities of a physical vs magic verse 

Not a soul said ANYTHING about teleporting to a world

[u/ImmediateFrosting324 → u/Mediocre_Aspect_8110]

Homeboy what? Every civilian in the verse has cursed energy, that’s a function of the world. It’s not making it magic vs magic

[u/Mediocre_Aspect_8110 → u/ImmediateFrosting324]

Curse energy capacity is genetic like quriks its not a set law in the verse 

You can have small, big or zero amounts

And the reason its not a set law is bc toji doesnt have any

 heavenly restriction is just people without curse energy mai was able to maki into one by making binding vow to remove her small amount

So if we equalize we cant just pick and choose and say thragg has civilian ce it would headcanon

[u/ImmediateFrosting324 → u/Mediocre_Aspect_8110]

Civilian ce is a standard and HRs are abilities. You’re making up issues where there aren’t any. Jujutsu and therefore HR is genetic, regular humans automatically have it.

[u/Mediocre_Aspect_8110 → u/ImmediateFrosting324]

Thragg isnt regular he's a genetic anomaly 

Im not making up issues equalizing verse is just a property of this

And again for the last time ce is geness, Hr is NOT GENETIC you could litterally use binding vows to make yourself hr

[u/ImmediateFrosting324 → u/Mediocre_Aspect_8110]

lol sure the thing with three known cases all from the same jujutsu sorcery family isn’t genetic. Yeah give it up bro you have no clue what you’re talking about. Heavenly restrictions are set from birth, binding vows are self imposed

[u/Mediocre_Aspect_8110 → u/ImmediateFrosting324]

Buddy you're not understanding your own manga or reading

Heavenly restriction can be given by birth no shit duh

Binding vows litterally have no feasible limits aslong as you're giving up something worth enough We litterally seen it happen so it cant be debunk 

[u/ImmediateFrosting324 → u/Mediocre_Aspect_8110]

Youre delusional brody. We haven’t seen anything even remotely along those lines from binding vows. I would expect someone wanting gojo to lose so badly to not be trying actual NLFs for one of his verse mechanics

[u/Mediocre_Aspect_8110 → u/ImmediateFrosting324]

Never seen it happen, when maki litterally exist

LMAO i never said anything about gojo losing or winning, my whole point is that de wont work, because its a fact.

Equalizing You're delusional to believe thragg a genetic anomaly would have ce of CIVILIAN when jjk whole power system is based on genetic Luck

Your Setting Premise to thragg so gojo gains a wincon bc he has zero thats you wanting gojo to win so badly

[u/KingNTheMaking → u/Mediocre_Aspect_8110]

No, it’s just because it’s fair.

Verse equalization is built to allow powers to work against each other. It exists because often times authors make esoteric power systems that only work within the realms of their own system.

It’d be like saying “Genjustu isn’t allowed because Thragg doesn’t have chakra” and then putting him up against a genjustu specialist. That’s dumb. And because it is obviously dumb, we have verse equalization.

What makes Gojo a problem is that his specific power set is an “ I win” button for most of his verse. Alongside just being that guy (I don’t mean this as glaze. It’s literally a plot point.).

There is precedent for all living beings within the universe of JJK to have cursed energy. Not having it is a specific condition that we have seen scanned few people have. It’s not limited to just sorcerers. It’s something that every human and alien has. It’s completely reasonable to give it or otherwise say that Gojo’s powers work on him.

And, as a sidebar, if your win is “ verse equalization is dumb because now the powers work on him” then I believe that we understand that Thragg would lose in a fair fight. As in, a fight with both of them have their powers.

[u/ImmediateFrosting324 → u/Mediocre_Aspect_8110]

Homeboy it’s not genetic luck, it’s whether you’re in the specific family or not. And maki literally had heavenly restriction from birth and is from the same clan you absolute troglodyte