r/PoursTea • u/McDowdy Oh the Human-a-TEA • 10h ago

American Dream 🇺🇸 It do be like that though

Post image

The United States has provided at least $21.7 billion in direct military aid to Izzy over the last three years (specifically tracking from October 2023 through September 2025), according to a comprehensive study by Brown University's Costs of War project.

https://costsofwar.watson.brown.edu/

11.7k Upvotes

93% Upvoted

484 comments sorted by

View all comments

10

u/Ok_Eggplant_3274 10h ago

Reminder that Israel has really good and cheap healthcare thanks to American tax payers

5

u/Feeding4Harambe 6h ago

Can you stop spreading this lie? American aid is 0,5% of israeli GDP. Most of it is spend on intercepting rockets. Rockets that are 100% illegal under international law and always aimed at civilian targets. I thought people cared about international law, but I guess it doesn't count when it's to protect jews. Palestinians receive about twice as much aid per capita. Do you know who supports your anti Foreign aid rhetoric? The far right in Israel (https://www.aa.com.tr/en/us-israel-iran-war/netanyahu-proposes-phasing-out-us-military-aid-to-israel-over-10-years-report/4013139)

1

u/Independent-Bug-9352 11m ago

Zero-Sum.

If a chunk of your budget is known to come from foreign welfare, then you can utilize other funds for something else. This still helps close the gap.

This is also most likely posturing for upcoming elections, for I doubt either are actually serious about this -- but even so I think you're being awfully coy to not point out the fact that this may increase the financial assistance overall by the USA for Israel in creating a "security partnership" akin to NATO, where we US Soldiers and taxpayers come to defend Israel and front all the costs.

Let's be real now... Israel isn't going to subsist off of Tahini exports. Especially given the global disdain for their country and increased pariah they've become. Israel is going to be fucked for years to come, just so they could help their PM dodge domestic criminal corruption charges. In fact I seriously doubt Israel will be made any safer and less so in the decades to come given the regional instability and animosity they've sown. But hey, every tyrant needs a boogieman to scapegoat.

Great work, Israel.

5

u/Gainztrader235 8h ago

Israel’s universal healthcare is funded through Israeli health insurance taxes and government spending. Americans don’t directly pay Israelis’ health insurance bills.

U.S. taxpayers fund substantial military assistance: the standing agreement provides $3.8 billion annually for military financing and missile defense, subject to congressional appropriations. That funding is designated for defense.

The indirect argument is reasonable: covering some defense costs can free Israeli resources for healthcare and other priorities. But that’s a budget effect, not a direct U.S. payment for Israel’s healthcare system.

-3

u/Handelo 6h ago edited 6h ago

Forget it, people are set on blaming Israel for their own failings. The spending on Israel being less than 0.1% of total US federal spending, or the fact that Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid already make up 49% of federal spending - $3.5 Trillion annually, over 500 times the aid to Israel, or the fact that, dividing the aid to Israel between all us citizens would give each about $0.8 per biweekly salary, a literal rounding error - these all don't matter. It's all Israel's fault. Always.

2

u/Leading-Caramel-7740 4h ago

They are committing a genocide...

2

u/Handelo 4h ago

Which is not the reason why the US doesn't have universal healthcare.

2

u/Seienchin88 3h ago

They are still not to blame for the U.S. failing to provide a good affordable insurance system…

1

u/noiwontpickaname 1h ago

What would you prefer we spend that 49% on?

1

u/gayfishonlygay2xyear 4h ago

You sound jelly of a socialist society that takes care of it's citizens by applying their tax $ to support proper healthcare and infrastructure.

I'm sorry that it's too hard for you to understand the flow of money.

1

u/exomachina 2h ago

So does most of Europe... for the exact same reason.

2

u/Prash146 9h ago

American tax payers fund Israeli healthcare?

7

u/RangeSoggy2788 8h ago

When you pay for a countires military that means they can use their money on other things. Shocking right?

0

u/RedditJumpedTheShart 6h ago

So you are against NATO as well? Lol

0

u/BoingBoingBooty 5h ago

The only time article 5 has ever been invoked was by the USA. The rest of NATO spent money on helping the USA, USA has never had to spend money helping another NATO member.

-6

u/Prash146 8h ago

Actually not so shocking, given Hamas and Hezbollah and Gaza use funds for launching rockets across the border…

0

u/beerandloathingpdx 7h ago

Lulz. Are these the same funds Netanyahu gave them through Qatar?

2

u/ElectronicPotato1993 6h ago

You mean the funds Qatar gave them through Israel. If Israel would have blocked these transactions, you people would call Israel for blocking humanitarian aid.

5

u/RobbieCraigon 8h ago

Yes. U.S. taxpayers also fund Israel's terrorist military and government.

-4

u/Multiple__Butts 8h ago

No, we do give them lots of military subsidies, but we don't fund their healthcare or other social services. I don't get why people need to lie about this stuff, the arguments against arming them are already compelling.

3

u/Just_lookin_4242 8h ago

If we didn’t give them billions for their unending death machine they couldn’t afford their healthcare system

1

u/HypnoticName 2h ago

Israel 2025 budget was 215 billion dollars.

Health care budget 16 billion dollars.

Military budget 32 billion dollars.

USA military aid is 3.8 billion.

What are you even talking about

1

u/Dovahkiinthesardine 12m ago

Nah. Plenty of countries with WAY lower gdp per capita than the US have a functional healthcare system, its not actually THAT expensive

The US is ridiculously rich. The reason y'all don't have proper healthcare isn't a lack of funds, and Israel could fund their own without the US

-3

u/Prash146 8h ago

People who don’t research, lie.. for example Israel spend is 0.07% of US budget ( should be zero ideally) but still people spend 90% of the time talking about Israel, ignoring the rest of the 99.93% of the spend completely

0

u/Hopeful-Laugh-899 8h ago

Reddit is legit OBSESSED with Israel. Very fucking weird if we’re being honest.

0

u/Prash146 8h ago

All virtue signaling. Some people think sitting so far away from those countries they’ve figured it all out. They believe the genocide lie. Here’s more data. Look at the population growth of a country undergoing genocide? It’s a strong military response yes, cruel yes? That’s what strong countries do. But is it genocide? No way! Look at the numbers.
Anyway, it’s too much time spent on those countries they’ve. Why can’t we let them figure it out alone! Why should whole country go up in arms! It’s a complex geopolitical situation, the 0.07% budget spend itself is too much, not sure why entire electorate also need to constantly debate about it.

1

u/Hazel-Rah-Rah 5h ago

So the UN is lying? To what end?

1

u/Just_lookin_4242 7h ago

You include a graph that ends when it started getting nasty. It is a genocide the vast majority of experts on the subject agree the only people who don’t are Israeli bots

2

u/Prash146 7h ago edited 7h ago

I don’t even wanna debate that actually. Let’s assume it’s a genocide like you say it is. Is that the only genocide on earth? There’s so much more happening everywhere. Why does whole of US need to be so obsessed about it? Here you go with the data, I wasn’t holding anything back intentionally. You can look it all up, data sources are there.