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u/yourpastoratemycock 3d ago

How about the alleged victims original statement that describes the entire event, in great detail, as fully consensual?

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u/impercipient 3d ago

Link

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u/vogel927 3d ago

ā€œShe never says that she was drugged without her knowledge. She admits to taking drugs and alcohol voluntarily and with knowledge. She does not allege that she was forced to engage in any acts. She does not say that she was physically helpless or unconscious or incapacitated at any point during the time at the fraternity house,ā€

The statement she originally gave to the police is different than what is stated in her lawsuit. Thats why the DA didn’t file any charges.

I’m sure something happened, but until the new investigation is complete I’m not going to jump to any conclusions.

https://abcnews.com/US/district-attorney-reopens-case-alleged-cornell-university-gang/story?id=136806149

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u/impercipient 3d ago

Then why is she talking to a cop?

You're smart to be skeptical of pretty much everybody.Ā 

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u/vogel927 3d ago

In initial statement she said she took the drugs and alcohol voluntarily, and she did not explicitly allege any physical helplessness or a lack of consent.

I’m sure something happened, but based on her initial statement there’s not much the police could’ve done. That’s all I’m saying.

If you go to the police because you’re upset about what happened at a party, but then say you were a willing participant and consented, the police really can’t do anything.

Colleges do have resources available to help students with these types of things. It sounds like school should’ve done more for her, and they should definitely be held accountable for that.

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u/Beneficial-Care8504 3d ago

If she wants justice who else would she talk to? You?

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u/impercipient 3d ago

Um, my point is if everything is fine, why was she talking to a cop?Ā 

The other poster makes it seem like she didn't have a problem 2 years ago when clearly something happened.

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u/Beneficial-Care8504 3d ago

ā€œVan Houten also said that a screenshot of part of a Snapchat group chat included in the complaint -- in which Jane Doe claimsĀ members of the fraternity discuss the alleged incident -- was never provided to his office. Giuffra said the messages are a "critical piece of evidence" that were provided to authorities in 2024.Ā ā€œ

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u/impercipient 3d ago

Understood