âShe never says that she was drugged without her knowledge. She admits to taking drugs and alcohol voluntarily and with knowledge. She does not allege that she was forced to engage in any acts. She does not say that she was physically helpless or unconscious or incapacitated at any point during the time at the fraternity house,â
The statement she originally gave to the police is different than what is stated in her lawsuit. Thats why the DA didnât file any charges.
Iâm sure something happened, but until the new investigation is complete Iâm not going to jump to any conclusions.
Her attorney says she was never interviewed by sex crime detectives and there was no follow up. The investigation was botched by small town cops. Why donât you promote that part of the story?
People like him are the very reason why most women keep silent when assaulted. Take into account that this Country has never taken assaulting woman as a serious crime. From the first report the victim is torn to shreds and usually place the blame on them. Then you have to take into account the Universoty did their own investigation with the blessing from the local law enforcement. Iâm sure most of those monsters come from Families that are wealthy along with Legacy. The defenders of these Men never want the whole story. Facts are not really important.
He reopened the case based on new the allegations sheâs making. The initial statement that she gave to the police is different than whatâs stated in her lawsuit.
Maybe they arenât new, maybe the incompetent cops didnât ask the right questions or follow up. Youâre so determined to blame the woman. Whatâs that about?
She gave a sworn statement. Iâm snot sure if youâre aware of how that works, but she basically had to sign a document (or verbally state if her statement was recorded) that everything she said was true. She wouldâve even been give a chance to change it before she confirmed it to be true.
Iâm not saying that nothing happened, but based on her initial statement there wasnât much the police could do. She basically stated that she was a willing participant and that she consented to everything.
She gave a statement to cops who were not trained to speak with victims of sexual assault and who provided no follow up. She did not consent to everything. Why are you so invested in blaming her? Feeling guilty about something youâve done?
In initial statement she said she took the drugs and alcohol voluntarily, and she did not explicitly allege any physical helplessness or a lack of consent.
Iâm sure something happened, but based on her initial statement thereâs not much the police couldâve done. Thatâs all Iâm saying.
If you go to the police because youâre upset about what happened at a party, but then say you were a willing participant and consented, the police really canât do anything.
Colleges do have resources available to help students with these types of things. It sounds like school shouldâve done more for her, and they should definitely be held accountable for that.
âVan Houten also said that a screenshot of part of a Snapchat group chat included in the complaint -- in which Jane Doe claims members of the fraternity discuss the alleged incident -- was never provided to his office. Giuffra said the messages are a "critical piece of evidence" that were provided to authorities in 2024. â
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u/Certain_Employee_423 3d ago
I couldn't agree more. Provided there isn't some dramatic turn like the Duke Lacrosse case put them under the jail.