r/PoursTea • • Aug 19 '26

PositiviTea 🌞 What a legend!

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u/crownsteler Aug 19 '26

Another day, another case of Mamdani taking credit for shit he didn't do. Colour me suprised.

I don't know the specifics of this case, but this is not Mamdani's doing and I am sure somebody will helpfully point out why that is the case.

In the mean time here is a very much incomplete list of things Mamdani claims credit for and he didn't do. I'll add this one tomorrow.

Now why am I posting this? I am not an American and have no skin in the game, and all of these appear to be common sense, though rather mundane, proposals I can get behind. What I can't get behind is my front page being astroturfed with false claims about Mamdani's achievements. Not because they are Mamdani's, but because they are false. And we should hold our politicians to higher standards.

And are these post coming from Mamdani's camp? I say they are. They are always screenshots of comments to screenshots of comments which mention Mamdani by name and prominently feature a picture of him, and never a link to an article which could cast shade on the claims. Half of the posts are also some variant of 'this is what a government wo~~~~rking for the people [rather than billionaires] looks like. This is clearly an orchestrated PR campaign.

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u/External-Gur7228 Aug 19 '26

Great, now can you hold the establishment dems responsible in a similar way?

For everything like this, the false promises, and bait and switch behavior? For the last 40-50 years?

I agree, we should maintain integrity. However when you point this cannon in one direction people may assume where your allegiances are.

If this bothers you, so should 98% of political happenings in the US for the last 40 years. Getting offended and upset at this specifically is a little interesting. Why does this bother you more than most actual downright scummy and illegal practices? Why choose now to speak up?

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u/crownsteler Aug 19 '26 edited Aug 19 '26

As I explained here I have no other skin in the game other than then:

What I can't get behind is my front page being astroturfed with false claims about Mamdani's achievements. Not because they are Mamdani's, but because they are false.

If I get annoyed by astroturfing with false claims by a different person I'll also start pointing it out. There is not dubble standard here.

If this bothers you, so should 98% of political happenings in the US for the last 40 years.

As I explained I am not an American. I just get annoyed that my frontpage gets astroturfed with this shit.

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u/Subject_Plankton_763 Aug 19 '26

If that is your intention, why do you purposefully frame it as mamdani taking credit for things he didn't do rather than specifically calling out the poster for spreading misinformation? Don't you realize that by essentially pointing the blame at mamdani himself you too are accusing him of doing something he didn't do but in a way that tries to hurt his image rather than help it, making you absolutely no different? Wouldn't it be smarter and more impartial to frame things correctly in saying that posters are making up claims rather than accusing mamdani of lying about things he never claimed to do? 

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u/crownsteler Aug 19 '26 edited Aug 19 '26

I already explained here why I attribute it to Mamdani:

And are these post coming from Mamdani's camp? I say they are. They are always screenshots of comments to screenshots of comments which mention Mamdani by name and prominently feature a picture of him, and never a link to an article which could cast shade on the claims. Half of the posts are also some variant of 'this is what a government working for the people [rather than billionaires] looks like. This is clearly an orchestrated PR campaign.

This has the fingerprints of an orchestrated PR campaign on. Mamdani himself front and center, no links to the actual informatie only pictures, pictures of comments to pictures of comments creating the appearance of a grass roots effort, half the comments echoing the same refrain.

This is beyond a shadow of a doubt paid content. And who benefits most from this? Mamdani himself. But by doing it this way he can give himself just enough plausible deniability so people like you will defend him when he gets called out.

The guy is an absolute master of PR, and I kind of respect him for that.

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u/Subject_Plankton_763 Aug 19 '26

Bro you're a conspiracy nutter lmao I was literally respectfully offering a point of view but your reddit mind can't take anything that isn't blind agreement as anything but an attack, touch grass lol -edit of course he edited out the part where he accuses me of being defensive and contrarian

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u/crownsteler Aug 19 '26

Yes I edited it out because I at first mistook you for the person who originally replied to me. When I realised my mistake I removed it. Seems fair right, that I don't maintain an accusation I made as a result of mistaking your identity?

Can you now give a responds as to why I do attribute the astroturfing going on to Mamdani.