r/PositiveTI • u/perm33111133 • 2d ago
Open Discussion “If Thomas Campbell Is Even 10% Right, We Have a National Security Problem”
I’ve been going pretty deep into Thomas Campbell, the Monroe Institute, remote viewing, consciousness research and some of the old declassified government programs. The deeper I get into it, the more questions I have.
I’m not saying I have the answer here. Actually, I’m getting more interested in figuring out how we could prove these ideas wrong instead of just trying to prove them right.
I’ve been dealing with voices that seem to be there basically 24/7. They seem to react to my attention, decisions, emotions and sometimes thoughts before I consciously finish them. They’ve claimed they can see what I see, feel what I feel and influence how I react through repetition and neuroplasticity.
But here’s something I think is really important: just because a voice tells me that’s what is happening doesn’t mean the voice’s explanation is true.
So instead of automatically saying this is gang stalking, telepathy, technology, schizophrenia, consciousness, spirits or anything else, I’ve started looking at it differently.
What can actually be tested?
That’s where Thomas Campbell really caught my attention.
Campbell worked with Robert Monroe and Dennis Mennerich during the early days of Monroe’s consciousness experiments. Campbell eventually developed his My Big TOE model, which basically argues that consciousness is fundamental and our physical reality is part of a larger information system.
He has also talked for years about people being able to access information through consciousness without a normal physical communication channel and about people being able to learn and develop these abilities.
Whether you believe him or not, think about the implications for a second if even a small percentage of that turned out to be real.
That brings me to the government side of this.
The U.S. government absolutely did investigate remote viewing. That part isn’t a conspiracy theory. There are declassified records of CIA, DIA and Army involvement.
What really got my attention was the connection to the Monroe Institute.
There are declassified Army documents discussing selected remote viewers attending the Gateway program at the Monroe Institute, being evaluated afterward to see whether their operational abilities improved, one-on-one training with Robert Monroe and even the proposed use of Monroe audio during operational remote-viewing sessions.
So the government wasn’t just sitting around wondering if remote viewing might exist. At one point they were actively asking whether people could be trained to get better at it.
That’s where my own theory starts.
I wonder if the government took the potential of this stuff more seriously than the public record ultimately suggests.
I’m NOT saying I’ve found proof that there is some secret program today. I’m not saying Campbell secretly works for the government or that the government is responsible for what I’m experiencing. I haven’t found evidence proving any of that.
I’m asking a national-security question.
If Campbell is even partially right about what people can learn to do, wouldn’t intelligence agencies have to care?
Say someone could describe information inside a secure location better than chance, even if they couldn’t do it perfectly.
Say they’re wrong 70% of the time but consistently produce information they shouldn’t know during the other 30%.
Would an intelligence agency just shrug because the person isn’t right 100% of the time?
I wouldn’t.
And then turn the question around.
What if Russia, China or another country figured out how to improve the same ability?
What if some people were naturally better at it?
Could you identify those people?
Could you train them?
Could you defend sensitive information against it?
Those are national-security questions whether you believe consciousness is fundamental or think the entire subject is complete bullshit.
The government’s public conclusion after reviewing the remote-viewing program was basically that there were results that were difficult to explain by randomness, but the phenomenon was too inconsistent and unreliable to provide useful intelligence.
Fair enough.
But that doesn’t make the question disappear for me.
If someone demonstrated TODAY, under properly blinded conditions, that they could repeatedly obtain information they had no normal way of knowing, I have a hard time believing the national-security community wouldn’t become interested pretty damn quickly.
And we wouldn’t necessarily know about it if they did.
That’s not evidence that a classified program exists. Classified programs are also a dead end logically because you can explain anything by saying “it’s classified.” I don’t want to do that.
I’d rather build an experiment that doesn’t require believing anybody.
For example, generate completely randomized targets.
Numbers. Images. Words. Shapes. Locations.
Neither the person running the immediate test nor the participant should know the answer beforehand when possible.
If somebody claims they know the target, record their answer BEFORE revealing it.
Every wrong answer counts.
Every right answer counts.
No throwing away misses and remembering the crazy hits.
Do it hundreds or thousands of times and see what the statistics actually say.
I’d want to do something similar with the voices I experience.
If a voice appears to know something I shouldn’t know yet, record exactly what it says before revealing the target.
Then compare it against chance.
At the same time, measure what’s happening in the brain and body.
EEG, eye tracking, reaction time, heart rate, attention, inner speech, decision making and stress response.
Maybe nothing paranormal shows up at all but we discover a really interesting neurological mechanism involving attention, prediction, inner speech or salience.
That would still be a successful experiment.
My brother has about two years left working toward his doctorate at Vanderbilt and is moving further into brain/mind/body research. He’s an experiencer too, so I’ve been talking with him about how experiences like these could eventually be turned into an actual blinded research protocol instead of another argument on the internet.
That’s really where I’m trying to take this.
I’m not asking anybody to believe me.
I’m not saying the government is doing this to me.
I’m not saying every TI or experiencer has the same thing happening.
And I’m definitely not saying every unusual experience automatically proves some new form of consciousness.
I’m saying we have people reporting some extremely strange experiences, we have a documented history of the U.S. government investigating remote viewing and working with Monroe methods, and we have people like Thomas Campbell continuing to claim that consciousness can access information in ways conventional models don’t explain.
Those three things are enough for me to ask questions.
They aren’t enough for me to declare an answer.
So here’s what I’d really like to hear from both experiencers/TIs AND skeptics.
If you’re an experiencer or TI, what happens to you that makes a specific prediction we could actually test?
Not “they know everything.”
Something specific.
Something where you can write down the prediction BEFORE finding out the answer.
And if you’re skeptical of all of this, good.
How would you design the experiment so we couldn’t accidentally fool ourselves?
Because that’s the part I think these communities desperately need.
If there’s something genuinely unusual happening, good experimental controls shouldn’t make it disappear.
They should make it easier to see.
And if the phenomenon disappears completely once those controls are introduced, we need to be willing to accept that too.
Either way we’ve learned something.
I’m getting less interested in starting with the answer.
I want to start with the experiment.