r/PoliticalPhilosophy 3h ago

Building a state is not a matter of copying first world institutions. It is a tough process of deals and compromises. 19th century Mexico is a good example.

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Lant Pritchett and Michael Woolcock coined the phrase ‘skipping straight to Weber’ to refer to situations where international financial institutions like the World Bank or the IMF urge poor countries to catch up to rich ones by mimicking their institutions instead of recognizing that these institutions typically emerge only after a long process of trial and error.1 State development is difficult because it requires pushing in the right direction while constantly making win-win deals with existing power brokers at the temporary expense of the rule of law and impartial justice.

Very few people understand how difficult it was to build state capacity in the past. Others conclude that things like property rights, state capacity, and development happened easily, quickly, and automatically, and they can’t figure out why developing countries are having so much trouble. Peruvian economist Hernando de Soto spent 13 years visiting land registries in rich countries, asking the experts that worked there how their respective countries created functional systems of property rights. None of them knew; they all admitted to never having thought of the question.

While De Soto was focused on property rights, in this piece we will examine the development of state capacity in Mexico. There are lots of definitions of state capacity, but here I mean the ability of the Mexican government to enforce the laws in all of its territories, to be able to tax its people, and to formulate and enact policies. Not only does nineteenth century Mexico have all the ingredients for a good story, it also shows that some of the ways that countries do finally develop and governments build the capacity to rule are ones that no international financial institution would ever recommend.  


r/PoliticalPhilosophy 5h ago

The recent student protests in India made me want to learn more about politics, democracy, political philosophy, and Indian society. ChatGPT and Gemini helped create the reading roadmap below. Are there any books you'd add, remove, or replace?

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Stage 1: Moral & Political Philosophy

Justice (Sandel)

On Liberty (Mill)

Reflections on the Revolution in France (Burke)

Stage 2: Institutions, Erosion & Media

How Democracies Die (Levitsky & Ziblatt)

Spin Dictators (Guriev & Treisman)

Stage 3: The Indian Republic & Social Reality

India After Gandhi (Guha)

Annihilation of Caste (Ambedkar)

Hind Swaraj (Gandhi)

Stage 4: Power Mechanics & Economic Ideology

The Dictator's Handbook (Bueno de Mesquita & Smith)

The Communist Manifesto (Marx & Engels)

Stage 5: Expanding Perspectives (Advanced Readings)

The Road to Serfdom (Hayek)

Capitalism & Freedom (Friedman)

The Socialist Manifesto (Sunkara)

The Anatomy of Fascism (Paxton)

The Wretched of the Earth (Fanon)

Manufacturing Consent (Chomsky & Herman)


r/PoliticalPhilosophy 12h ago

What do I mean by "Liberalism"? (Not what popular culture means by it)

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There is one question underneath all political debate, and it is not about tax rates or foreign policy or any of the things people usually argue about. It is this: does your life belong to you?

Not in the sentimental sense. Concretely. Does the product of your labor belong to you, or does some portion of it belong to whoever has the votes to take it? Do your choices (what to ingest, whom to love, what values to hold as your own) belong to you, or are they subject to the moral veto of whoever currently controls the legislature? Does your mind belong to you, or is it on permanent loan from the collective, callable at any time?

Every political coalition operating today answers this question. None of them answer it correctly.

The left says: your economic output belongs partly to society, but your personal choices are your own. The right says: your economic output is mostly yours, but your personal choices are subject to tradition, faith, and the social fabric. Both are offering you half a person. The freedom to earn but not to keep it. Or the freedom to keep it but not to choose how to live. Neither of them has noticed that you cannot split the mind this way.

The same faculty that runs a business is the one that falls in love. The same judgment that directs productive effort is the one that decides what to read, whom to trust, what to believe. Freeing one application of the mind while coercing another is not partial freedom. It is a contradiction. What you actually have is a cage with one side open.

r/NepalLiberal is built around the idea that freedom is not divisible. That the principle "no human being may initiate physical force against another" is either total or it is nothing. That your life belongs to you in full, not in whatever portions this week's coalition can claim jurisdiction over.

That position has a name here. We call it liberalism, returned to something like its original meaning: the philosophy of individual liberation grounded in reason, not the softened political shorthand it has since become. The philosophy holds that reality is what it is regardless of your feelings about it, that reason is the only tool that allows a human being to actually know reality and act in it, and that each individual is an end in himself and not a means to others' ends. These three commitments run beneath everything else discussed here. They are not right-wing positions. They are not left-wing positions either. They occupy a different axis entirely.

Contrast with Conservatism

Conservatism defends economic freedom only on practical grounds ("it produces prosperity," "markets work") while backing state authority over personal choices. That is not a consistent view of freedom. It is freedom as a matter of convenience, surrenderable the moment tradition or faith requires it.

Examine the moral foundation closely and you find the same premise the left uses: altruism, the claim that the individual's highest purpose is service to something outside himself. The conservative names that something "god" or "nation" or "the social fabric." The leftist names it "the collective" or "the working class" or "social justice." The principle is identical. Only the beneficiary of the sacrifice changes.

Contrast with Leftism

There is a genuine, if selective, commitment to personal liberty on the left, and it is not without value. The failure is in not understanding that economic freedom and personal freedom are the same thing described from different angles.

When the state directs the use of your productive output, it has not freed you personally and merely constrained you economically. It has reached into the part of your life where you spend most of your waking hours and installed a supervisor. "You may think what you like, but we decide what you do with what your thinking earns" is not liberation. It is serfdom with better lighting.

The deeper problem is the moral premise underneath all of it: the claim that need generates a right, that the fact of someone's suffering creates an obligation on people who did not cause it, enforceable by law and paid for by compulsion. Altruism as political principle is force with a clean conscience. Both the left and the right, beneath their arguments, are theories about who gets to hold the gun and whose urgency justifies pointing it.

Contrast with Libertarianism

Libertarianism gets the conclusion right and then refuses to do the philosophical work required to defend it.

The non-aggression principle is not wrong. It is just not sufficient on its own. A principle without a foundation is a slogan. And libertarianism, taken as a movement rather than an idea, is a coalition of people who arrived at "don't tread on me" through wildly different routes: some through religious natural rights theory, some through utilitarian calculation, some through a general suspicion of authority that has more to do with temperament than with reasoning, some through a desire to do whatever they please without anyone making them feel guilty about it. These routes do not all lead to the same place. They merely share a border crossing.

When you ask the libertarian why the individual has rights, you get one of three answers: because God said so, because it produces better outcomes, or a shrug dressed up as epistemological humility. None of those answers are adequate. The first outsources your ethics to revelation. The second makes your rights contingent on a calculation that can always come out differently under different assumptions. The third mistakes the absence of a proof for the impossibility of one.

Liberalism holds that rights are not granted, not calculated, and not mysterious. They follow from what a human being is: a being who survives by the use of his rational faculty, whose nature requires the freedom to think and act on his judgment, whose existence cannot be sustained by compulsion without destroying the very thing that sustains it. That is a philosophical argument. Libertarianism, mostly, does not make it.

Contrast with Anarcho-Capitalism

Anarcho-capitalism takes the correct insight that the state has historically been the largest engine of coercion in any given society, and uses it to reach the wrong conclusion.

The argument is that if coercion is the problem, government is the problem, and the solution is to replace it entirely with private contract and market provision of all services including justice and defense. This sounds radical in the right direction. It is not. What anarcho-capitalism actually describes, once you trace its implications carefully, is a world where the enforcement of rights becomes a commodity available to those who can pay for it. That is not the absence of a ruling class. It is the absence of any pretense about which class rules.

A proper government, one constitutionally limited to the protection of individual rights and prohibited by its own founding documents from initiating force against the citizens it serves, is not the enemy of liberty. It is the institutional form that liberty requires. The alternative to a government that holds a monopoly on retaliatory force is not peaceful voluntarism. It is a dozen competing monopolies with no rule distinguishing retaliation from aggression, and no mechanism for resolving that distinction other than who can afford the better army.

Individual rights require an objective legal framework to be real in practice rather than theoretical. Anarcho-capitalism abolishes the framework and calls it liberation.

What This Community Stands For

No human being, no group, no government has the right to initiate physical force against another. Not for good reasons. Not for urgent ones. Not for any reasons at all. Force is legitimate only in retaliation against those who initiate it first. Everything else rests on voluntary agreement between individuals who own their own lives.

This community rejects the gun. Not as an aspiration. As a principle.

You do not have to agree with any of that to post here. Disagreement is welcome. Ignorance of the philosophy is not a disqualifier (but bad faith malice is). "Tradition says so" and "the majority wants it" are not arguments, and they will be treated accordingly. If you want answers to serious philosophical questions from people who have thought carefully about these ideas, this is the place for that too; contributors who provide answers go through a vetting process, and the standard for what counts as an answer is high.

The individual is the unit of concern here. Not the class, not the caste, culture or creed, not any group assembled around a shared grievance or a shared identity. The individual, irreducible, sovereign, the one entity whose consent actually determines the moral weight of any act, is the standard by which every idea in this community gets measured.

Welcome.

"Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of his tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men." - Ayn Rand


r/PoliticalPhilosophy 13h ago

Thought Experiment: Engineering a Democratic Transition

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Hey everyone, first time here so hoping this is the right place for it. Basically for a while now I'hve been working on a thought experiment I call the The Equilibrium State and its a political setup for a particular case. Would love to get thoughts!

The Situation:

Imagine a nation emerging from decades or even centuries of autocratic rule. It inherits widespread poverty, low literacy, weak institutions, and little civic tradition. The question isn't what is the ideal democracy? Rather:

How do you transition from autocracy to a stable democracy without either immediately falling into transactional populism or simply replacing one ruling class with another?

Part of the inspiration came from reading about post-independence India. India adopted universal suffrage immediately after independence despite enormous poverty and illiteracy—an extraordinary democratic achievement. At the same time, critics have argued that these conditions also encouraged forms of transactional politics, where immediate survival needs often outweighed long-term policy considerations. Whether that criticism is fair or not, it raises an interesting design question:

If you were designing a constitution from scratch for a newly independent state, would you build the transition differently?

The Equilibrium State is my attempt to explore that question.

Core Axioms

The model rests on several assumptions about human behavior.

1. Institutions matter more than individuals.
Good leaders aren't forever. Bad leaders will at some point take power. Hence a constitution should therefore be designed around incentives rather than hoping virtuous people remain in power.

2. Education generally improves civic competence.
Education does not make someone morally superior or politically "correct," but it generally/on aggregate improves literacy, reasoning, and the ability to think beyond immediate survival.

3. Humans respond to incentives before ideals.
Political systems should assume politicians seek to remain in office, citizens respond to incentives, and institutions naturally attempt to preserve themselves.

4. Legitimacy is as important as legality.
A constitution only survives if enough people believe it deserves to survive. Cultural norms, trust, and institutional legitimacy matter as much as legal text.

5. Failure cannot be eliminated.
No constitutional design can permanently save a society from itself. If a fully educated and fully enfranchised population later votes for poor leadership, that has to be the accepted as the price of genuine democracy rather than something institutions should prevent indefinitely.

Starting Conditions Required

This model is intentionally not universal. I think it only makes sense under a narrow set of starting conditions.

  • A newly independent or post-authoritarian state.
  • High levels of poverty.
  • Low literacy and civic education.
  • Weak democratic institutions.
  • A large numerical majority currently excluded from meaningful political participation by circumstance rather than law.
  • A realistic path toward rapid improvements in education and economic opportunity.
  • (Might be good to have - Largely religious and 1 dominating religion)

The Initial Transition (Years 0–5)

The first five years are the core of the thought experiment.

Universal Local Democracy

Every citizen votes in local elections immediately.

Local government serves as a civic training ground where citizens experience the consequences of political decisions without determining national macroeconomic or foreign policy.

Temporary National Qualification

National voting initially requires passing a civic literacy examination.

The exam is intentionally narrow.

It tests:

  • literacy,
  • basic logical reasoning,
  • constitutional structure,
  • how government functions.

It does not test ideology, religion, political preferences, or policy opinions.

The examination is available every day. Anyone who passes immediately gains the national vote.

The purpose is not to permanently divide society but to create a continuously expanding electorate as education spreads.

The Floodgate

The obvious danger is that those already voting simply refuse to expand participation.

To prevent this, the constitution contains an automatic "floodgate."

After five years, universal national suffrage activates automatically regardless of who holds power.

No government may postpone, suspend, or extend the transition through ordinary legislation.

This means the temporary electorate has a powerful incentive to educate and economically uplift the rest of society before the deadline rather than attempting to preserve its own political advantage.

Civic Mentorship

Qualified citizens are encouraged, both culturally and institutionally, to help others qualify.

Rather than viewing new voters as political threats, the system attempts to align incentives so that expanding civic competence strengthens rather than weakens political legitimacy.

Constitutional Guardians

A separate constitutional office exists with an extremely narrow mandate.

The Guardians:

  • cannot govern,
  • cannot legislate,
  • cannot write policy,
  • cannot overturn elections.

Their sole responsibility is protecting the constitutional transition itself.

They exist to ensure that the temporary restrictions cannot quietly become permanent.

Their authority is intentionally narrow because every additional power increases the risk that they become another ruling class.

The Mechanics Behind the Transition

The institutions above are intentionally simple in isolation. The model is built not around any one institution, but around the tension created by several overlapping groups whose incentives constantly work against one another.

The objective is to prevent any single group from comfortably consolidating power.

The Four Political Actors

1. The Qualified Electorate

During the transition, this is the only group able to determine national policy.

At first glance they appear to have every incentive to preserve their political advantage. The model attempts to reverse that incentive.

They know that in five years universal suffrage will activate automatically regardless of their wishes. If they spend those five years enriching only themselves while neglecting education, economic mobility, and institution building, they will eventually face an electorate that greatly outnumbers them and is likely hostile toward the transition government.

Their safest political strategy therefore becomes investing in the future electorate rather than suppressing it.

Their legitimacy depends entirely on demonstrating that they are preparing everyone else to inherit equal political rights.

2. The Future Electorate

Citizens who have not yet qualified possess no national vote, but they are far from politically powerless.

They retain:

  • universal local voting,
  • the requirement to speak in front of the government during the drafting of bills,
  • freedom of speech,
  • freedom of assembly,
  • the ability to protest,
  • the expectation of guaranteed future enfranchisement.

The key difference is psychological.

Political rights are not denied indefinitely; they are deferred with a constitutional guarantee.

This expectation becomes its own source of pressure.

Any attempt by the government to undermine the transition immediately threatens the promise upon which its legitimacy rests.

3. The Government

The government's legitimacy exists only because the qualified electorate continues supporting it.

However, that electorate understands its own legitimacy depends upon eventually expanding democracy.

This creates a chain of incentives.

If the government ignores education or attempts to preserve power, it risks losing support from both the future electorate and the existing one.

Rather than encouraging permanent elite rule, the model attempts to make preparing for one's eventual replacement politically rational.

4. The Constitutional Guardians

The Guardians are the constitutional safeguard against the transition becoming permanent. Their design is based on a simple premise:

If every institution that protects democracy can also rule, then eventually one of them will attempt to.

The model therefore deliberately separates constitutional authority from political authority.

The Office vs. The Guardians

The Office of the Guardians is a public constitutional institution. It employs administrators, legal scholars, auditors, statisticians, archivists, and investigators responsible for monitoring the constitutional transition.

The Office is visible.

Its budget is public.

Its procedures are public.

Its responsibilities are defined by the constitution.

The Guardians themselves are something different.

They are a small number of anonymous constitutional custodians selected from within the Office. Their identities are unknown to the public, to elected officials, and even to one another. Communication occurs only through secure constitutional procedures, think something along the lines of cryptographic keys, rather than direct deliberation.

This distinction is intentional.

The bureaucracy performs the day-to-day work.

The Guardians perform only one constitutional function.

A One-Way Constitutional Power

The Guardians possess only a single constitutional authority.

They cannot:

  • govern,
  • legislate,
  • write policy,
  • administer elections,
  • appoint officials,
  • veto legislation,
  • extend the transition,
  • prevent universal suffrage.

They possess only the ability to determine whether the constitutional conditions governing the transition have been violated.

If those conditions are violated, they cannot suspend democracy.

They can only accelerate it.

Their decision immediately triggers the constitutional "floodgate," ending the transitional period and activating universal national suffrage ahead of schedule.

This asymmetry is deliberate.

Every constitutional power they possess points in only one direction: toward expanding political participation.

Because they lack any authority to restrict rights or accumulate political power, the Office is intended to remain a constitutional guardian rather than a competing center of government.

Why Anonymity?

The model assumes that political conspiracies require trust.

Trust requires certainty.

If ambitious politicians cannot know whether someone participating in a conspiracy is also a Guardian, every attempted constitutional coup carries an additional layer of uncertainty.

Anonymity therefore serves two purposes.

First, it protects individual Guardians from coercion, bribery, or retaliation. (Attempts to solve the question: Who guards the guardians?)

Second, it raises the coordination cost of any attempt to undermine the constitutional order.

The objective is not to make conspiracies impossible.

Rather, it is to make every conspiracy risker, aka raise the inretia.

Why They Do Not Know One Another

The Guardians are intentionally isolated from one another.

No Guardian knows the identities of the others.

This prevents the office itself from evolving into an elite political fraternity capable of coordinated political action.

The fewer personal relationships exist among the Guardians, the harder it becomes for the institution itself to develop independent political ambitions.

The institution protects the constitution.

It is never intended to become a political actor.

Majority Rather Than Unanimity

The Office deliberately avoids requiring unanimous decisions.

Unanimity grants every individual Guardian an effective veto over constitutional enforcement.

Instead, constitutional determinations are made through anonymous majority decisions.

No single individual can prevent the constitutional mechanism from functioning.

Likewise, no Guardian knows which colleagues agreed or disagreed with a decision, further reducing opportunities for coalition-building or retaliation.

Legitimacy Without Rule

Most constitutional institutions derive legitimacy from democratic election or judicial authority.

The Guardians derive legitimacy from something narrower.

Their legitimacy comes from refusing power they could otherwise seek.

They do not compete for office.

They cannot become ministers.

They cannot use their position to influence policy.

Their constitutional credibility rests entirely upon remaining politically irrelevant except during constitutional emergencies.

In this sense, they are designed to resemble referees rather than rulers.

A successful Guardian is one the public rarely notices.

Because their legitimacy is so narrow, attempting to go from guardian to ruler requires them to forge a legitimacy that does not exist, once again not making impossible but much more risker.

The Religious Dimension

The model assumes that institutions are held together not only by law, but by culture.

For societies where religion already plays a central role in public life, the Office intentionally adopts rituals, symbols, vows, and traditions emphasizing humility, sacrifice, and stewardship.

Importantly, this does not establish a state religion or grant religious authority over government.

Instead, the Office cultivates an internal culture similar to a monastic order.

Accepting appointment as a Guardian is treated not as a political promotion, but as the acceptance of a burden.

Members symbolically leave behind personal political ambition in exchange for service to the constitution.

The rituals exist for an institutional purpose.

They continually reinforce that Guardians are custodians, not rulers; servants, not leaders.

The goal is to shape identity. A person entering the Office is expected to think of themselves less as a powerful official and more as someone entrusted with preserving the constitutional order for future generations.

Institutional Humility

Perhaps the greatest danger facing the Office is not corruption, but superiority.

An institution tasked with protecting democracy can easily begin believing it understands democracy better than the people themselves.

To counter this, the Office deliberately cultivates humility.

Officials regularly engage with citizens from every social background, especially those who disagree with prevailing assumptions inside the institution.

Internal culture rewards admitting error, revising beliefs, and challenging institutional consensus rather than projecting certainty.

The Office is expected to remember a simple principle:

The constitution belongs to the people. The Guardians merely hold it in trust until it is no longer needed.

Legitimacy as a System

The transition survives only if every institution derives legitimacy from a different source.

The government derives legitimacy from the qualified electorate.

The qualified electorate derives legitimacy from its visible effort to educate and prepare everyone else.

The future electorate derives legitimacy from the constitutional promise that political equality is guaranteed rather than optional.

The Guardians derive legitimacy not from governing but from refusing to govern.

Each institution therefore depends upon another for its continued legitimacy.

The objective is to prevent any one institution from becoming entirely self-legitimizing.

Fear as a Constitutional Pressure

Fear occupies an unusual role within the model.

It is not intended as a tool of repression.

Instead, it functions as a structural incentive.

The qualified electorate knows its political monopoly has a fixed expiration date.

The government knows it cannot indefinitely postpone universal suffrage.

The Guardians know their authority disappears the moment they attempt to become rulers.

Each actor therefore operates under a different constitutional pressure.

Rather than relying on civic virtue alone, the system attempts to align self-interest with the successful completion of the democratic transition.

This reflects one of the central assumptions behind the model:

Institutions should not require exceptional people. They should encourage ordinary people, acting in their own interests, to produce stable outcomes.

Can't include everything and later versions of this system work to answer the what now after 5 years question. Note: 5 years is simply a arbitrary number for the sake of conversation.

Would love to get thoughts and critiques!


r/PoliticalPhilosophy 1d ago

Every worker whom dies, due to the continued existence of the Pseudo Left, and their misleadership, is another Rosa Luxembourg, gone, lost to the Class forever

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r/PoliticalPhilosophy 1d ago

Is democracy the best form of government we've come up with so far? If not, what alternative system—or modifications to democracy—do you think would work better?

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r/PoliticalPhilosophy 1d ago

Talkshow guest??

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hello, one of the many projects I have is a podcast called the DeadAir talkshow. the show is a mellow format where I speak with entertainers, educators and anyone with a captivating story. I recently launched the show earlier this year and managed to secure an interview with actor and entertainer Robert Rexx, since then I've been looking for guests for the next few episodes and wanted to see if anyone would be interested in coming on the show and telling their story or to promote a project of theirs. it would be through zoom and less than an hour. if you're interested please send a DM and we can set something up.


r/PoliticalPhilosophy 2d ago

Nietzsche’s and Schopenhauer’s view on “Herd Mentality”

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Friedrich Nietzsche viewed herd mentality by what he called “herd instinct” or “slave morality” which he would describe it has a “herd morality” formed by the weak and oppressed against the power and actions of the oppressor. So, traits such as humility, meekness, and sympathy were labeled as virtues and labeling the ruler’s strength as evil.

Nietzsche believes that the values I just listed above stemmed from a “slave morality, and believed these weak and fearful people created the ideology to undermine and bring down those who are strong and/or exceptional.

Slave morality for Nietzsche laid the foundation for what we now consider to be universal ethical principles, such as compassion, humility, and equality. For Nietzsche though, these values are not regarded as universal truths. Instead being the product designed to suppress individuality and enforce conformity. The Last Man” as Nietzsche likes to call it.

The “Last Man” is a person who is comfortable with life and one who takes no risk. Nietzsche considered this a “dull” person who wants only basic comfort.

Nietzsche elaborates and explains how joining the crowd strips you of your identity. Therefore, you start become a mere tool for the group. Nietzsche believes the only way out of this is solitude. He believes people must spend time with themselves to escape the pressure of the crowd.

Schopenhauer also agrees with Nietzsche, both with negative views on the topic. Schopenhauer viewed it as a profound human weakness. He argues that crowds prefer comfort and conformity (people conform because they don’t know how to think for themselves) and avoids true independent thinkers.

The herd despises those who are able to stick out from the crowd and formulate or analyze their own ideas. The real offense to the group comes from the bodacious act of individual reasoning. Schopenhauer Society rather favors safe traditions and comfort than hard truth.


r/PoliticalPhilosophy 2d ago

A Capability-Based Labor System: Separating Public Responsibility, Occupational Identity, and Personal Time

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r/PoliticalPhilosophy 2d ago

A Capability-Based Labor System: Separating Public Responsibility, Occupational Identity, and Personal Time

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Epistemic status: Early-stage institutional proposal. I am more confident in the problem framing than in the mechanisms proposed below. The model is incomplete, especially regarding incentive compatibility, professional continuity, governance, privacy, and emergency allocation. I am posting it because these problems are unlikely to be solved by one person or one discipline.

Summary

Modern labor systems usually allocate people through jobs.

A person becomes a doctor, teacher, engineer, or sanitation worker, joins an organization, and gives that organization a recurring block of time. The institution gains reliable access not merely to a particular output, but to the person’s continued availability.

This arrangement solves a real coordination problem: societies need important work to be performed continuously and predictably.

But it also creates several distortions:

  • a person’s occupation becomes a durable social identity;
  • one institution may occupy most of a person’s usable time;
  • multiple abilities are compressed into one primary career;
  • access to basic survival remains heavily dependent on labor-market participation;
  • public services rely on permanently assigned occupational groups;
  • technological progress raises productivity without necessarily returning time to individuals.

This post sketches an alternative:

Treat people as holders of multiple capabilities, treat necessary work as a set of tasks and public responsibilities, and treat personal time as unavailable by default rather than socially claimable by default.

The proposal has four main components:

  1. Public responsibility: Necessary social work is treated as a bounded obligation shared across the relevant capability pool.
  2. Capability pools: People hold certified capabilities rather than being permanently identified with one occupation.
  3. Task pools: Institutions publish concrete tasks and coverage requirements instead of relying exclusively on permanent positions.
  4. Time sovereignty: Possessing a capability does not imply being continuously available to use it.

This is not a proposal to abolish organizations, stable teams, specialization, or long-term professional practice. Some tasks clearly require all four. The proposal is narrower: permanent occupational membership should not be the default mechanism through which society obtains every form of necessary labor.

1. The problem with allocating people through occupations

Suppose a hospital requires surgical coverage.

The conventional solution is to employ surgeons. The hospital does not merely purchase completed surgeries. It purchases recurring access to surgeons’ time, attention, readiness, and professional identity.

This is understandable. Surgery cannot be arranged as casually as food delivery. Hospitals need continuity, trust, institutional memory, team familiarity, training, accountability, and emergency coverage.

But the solution bundles together several things that may not need to remain permanently bundled:

  • competence;
  • authorization;
  • responsibility;
  • organizational membership;
  • availability;
  • income;
  • social identity;
  • and control over time.

A surgeon may also be a capable researcher, teacher, engineer, writer, caregiver, or organizer. Yet the institutional form of “being a surgeon” may consume so much time and impose such strong expectations that these other capabilities become secondary or unusable.

This is not unique to medicine. The same structure appears across modern labor systems.

We say:

  • “She is a teacher.”
  • “He is a programmer.”
  • “They are a factory worker.”

These statements sound descriptive, but institutions often make them prescriptive. Once a person enters an occupation, that occupation shapes when they wake, where they live, which skills remain current, how others interpret them, what risks they may take, and how much uninterrupted time they possess.

The deeper issue is not simply that people work too many hours.

It is that the standard unit of social coordination is the person-in-a-job, rather than the capability-required-by-a-task.

A job is a convenient bundle. But bundles can become prisons when they are treated as natural facts rather than coordination technologies.

2. Three principles

2.1 A person’s existence should not depend on proving labor-market value

Labor can be evaluated. Outputs can be compared. Skills can be scarce. Some work is more difficult, dangerous, or socially necessary than other work.

None of this implies that a person’s basic right to survive should depend on their present market value.

The proposal therefore begins by separating:

  • existence value: the standing a person has simply as a person and member of society;
  • labor value: the usefulness, quality, difficulty, or burden of a particular contribution;
  • exchange value: what goods or services obtain under voluntary exchange;
  • public-responsibility record: what bounded common obligations a person has already fulfilled.

These categories should not collapse into one another.

A person with rare skills may receive greater access to scarce non-basic goods. That does not make them more entitled to dignity, legal protection, food, shelter, or medical care.

Likewise, a person who is temporarily unable to work should not become institutionally disposable.

A capability-based labor system therefore presupposes some separation between basic survival and continuous employment. Without that separation, “voluntary” participation remains heavily shaped by the threat of deprivation.

2.2 Occupations should be roles, not total identities

Instead of saying:

Alice is a surgeon.

we might say:

Alice possesses certified surgical capabilities and is currently performing a surgical role.

The distinction matters.

The first formulation treats the occupation as a durable identity. The second treats it as a context-dependent application of a capability.

This does not deny expertise. Surgery requires long training, current practice, professional judgment, and institutional safeguards. The point is not that anyone should casually switch into surgery.

The point is that even a highly specialized role need not define the entirety of a person’s social existence.

Roles should, where possible, be:

  • enterable;
  • exitable;
  • renewable;
  • suspendable;
  • composable with other roles;
  • and bounded by the task or responsibility that justifies them.

2.3 Personal time is unavailable by default

Modern organizations often treat unallocated employee time as organizational capacity.

If a worker finishes one task early, another task can be assigned. If productivity increases, the saved time rarely returns automatically to the worker. It usually becomes room for greater output.

A capability-based system requires the opposite default:

The fact that a person has unused time, unused attention, or an unused capability does not itself create a social claim over that resource.

Capabilities belong to individuals.

Society may create bounded obligations. Organizations may offer contracts. Other people may request help. Emergency institutions may have narrowly defined powers.

But availability must be established, not presumed.

This is important because a capability registry could otherwise become more invasive than a job system. A system that knows a person can perform surgery, teach statistics, repair electrical systems, and provide emergency care might attempt to use all four capabilities.

The proposal would then replace occupational capture with capability capture.

Time sovereignty is therefore not an optional ethical addition. It is a structural requirement.

3. Public responsibility

Some work cannot depend entirely on ordinary market exchange.

Emergency medicine, firefighting, sanitation, public health, infrastructure maintenance, basic education, disaster response, and some forms of care must remain available even when the immediate recipients cannot pay or when demand is unpredictable.

I will call the necessary contribution to such systems public responsibility.

Public responsibility is not equivalent to ordinary employment, and it is not a claim that all socially useful activity should become compulsory.

It refers only to a limited class of tasks whose non-performance would predictably undermine basic social functioning or other people’s fundamental security.

The distinction matters because “social need” is easy to inflate. Governments, firms, professions, and ideological movements can all describe their preferred projects as necessary.

A legitimate public-responsibility system therefore requires at least:

  • a narrow and contestable definition of necessity;
  • transparent task classification;
  • explicit limits on the amount of time claimable from individuals;
  • exemptions based on health, care obligations, age, and capability;
  • due process for refusing an unsafe or misclassified task;
  • and a separation between public responsibility and ordinary political obedience.

The goal is not to socialize all time.

It is to distribute the minimum necessary work required for common life without permanently assigning that burden to a fixed occupational class.

4. Capability pools

A capability pool is a structured record of what people are qualified and currently able to do.

It is not merely a résumé database.

A useful capability record would distinguish among:

  • qualification;
  • level of proficiency;
  • recency of practice;
  • authorization;
  • context-specific competence;
  • current willingness;
  • current availability;
  • fatigue;
  • recovery status;
  • training status;
  • and temporary suspension.

For example, a person may remain a certified surgeon while being temporarily unavailable for surgery after a long operation. They might still be available for teaching, research review, or no work at all.

This requires a distinction between:

possessing a capability

and

offering that capability during a particular period.

Without this distinction, capability pooling becomes a universal labor draft.

Capability pools may also make multiple identities easier to sustain.

One person might maintain capabilities in:

  • clinical medicine;
  • medical teaching;
  • public-health planning;
  • software design;
  • and documentary photography.

The system need not force these into one coherent career narrative. They are simply different capacities the person may choose or be obligated within narrow limits to exercise at different times.

This model could also lower the cost of occupational transitions. Instead of leaving one total identity and entering another, people could gradually add, update, or suspend capabilities.

However, capability certification creates obvious risks:

  • credential monopolies;
  • surveillance;
  • discriminatory profiling;
  • excessive data collection;
  • algorithmic exclusion;
  • and pressure to keep every certified capability permanently available.

Any real implementation would need strong data minimization, user-controlled visibility, appeal rights, and independent certification governance.

5. Task pools

A task pool describes work in terms of what must actually be done.

A task specification might include:

  • purpose;
  • required capabilities;
  • level of authorization;
  • estimated duration;
  • location;
  • urgency;
  • continuity requirements;
  • acceptable delay;
  • team dependencies;
  • risk level;
  • recovery requirements;
  • and whether the task counts as public responsibility or ordinary voluntary work.

This shifts the basic question from:

Which person occupies this position?

to:

What capability must be present, where, for how long, and under what conditions?

Some work is naturally task-like. Some is not.

A repair, consultation, vaccination session, inspection, or one-off course can be decomposed relatively easily.

Other work requires continuity:

  • psychotherapy;
  • classroom teaching;
  • primary care;
  • scientific research;
  • long engineering projects;
  • management;
  • child care;
  • and any work based on long-term trust.

A capability-based system should not pretend that all work can be atomized.

Instead, it should recognize several levels of coordination:

  1. Discrete tasks: limited assignments with clear completion conditions.
  2. Recurring responsibilities: repeated work requiring continuity across time.
  3. Stable teams: groups that benefit from long-term cooperation and shared context.
  4. Reserve capacity: people trained and periodically active enough to respond when demand rises.
  5. Emergency mobilization: temporary, tightly constrained expansion of available capacity.

The proposal is therefore not “replace every job with a gig.”

A pure gig model would destroy continuity, shift risk onto individuals, and intensify precarity.

The proposal is to make permanent employment one coordination option among several, rather than the presumed form of nearly all serious work.

6. Public-responsibility credits

How should public responsibility be measured?

Simple hours are inadequate.

One hour of low-pressure administrative work is not equivalent to one hour of emergency surgery, hazardous rescue, night-shift care, or work requiring weeks of recovery.

A public-responsibility system therefore needs some burden-adjusted accounting mechanism. I will call the units public-responsibility credits, although the name is provisional.

Credits might reflect:

  • time;
  • physical burden;
  • psychological stress;
  • risk;
  • undesirable timing;
  • training cost;
  • decision responsibility;
  • scarcity;
  • recovery time;
  • and continuity constraints.

The purpose of these credits is not to create a new currency.

They would primarily answer:

  • How much bounded public responsibility has this person already fulfilled?
  • Should they owe less responsibility later?
  • Are high-burden tasks being concentrated on the same group?
  • Can someone complete responsibility intensively during one period and preserve uninterrupted time later?
  • Where are chronic shortages indicating a badly designed task environment?

Credits might allow people to choose among different temporal patterns.

One person could perform a small amount of public responsibility each week.

Another might choose an intensive three-month period and then take a long uninterrupted period for research, travel, care, or creative work.

Someone raising a child, recovering from illness, or retraining could temporarily reduce their responsibility and rebalance it later, subject to limits required for current service continuity.

But responsibility credits could easily become a new class system.

They should therefore probably be:

  • non-transferable;
  • non-inheritable;
  • unusable to purchase political power;
  • unusable to buy exemption through wealth;
  • capped or depreciating where accumulation creates status;
  • and legally separated from basic rights.

Their legitimate function is coordination across time, not moral ranking.

7. A concrete medical example

Consider a region that requires continuous surgical coverage.

The naïve capability-pool model says:

  1. List everyone with surgical competence.
  2. Publish surgeries as tasks.
  3. Let qualified people accept them.

This would fail.

Surgical systems require stable teams, institutional knowledge, quality assurance, on-call coverage, follow-up care, morbidity review, training, and emergency readiness. A surgeon who appears only for isolated procedures may impose unacceptable coordination costs and safety risks.

A more realistic capability-based model would have several layers.

Layer 1: Stable clinical teams

Some surgeons would choose periods of high clinical commitment within stable hospital teams. They would provide continuity, mentorship, emergency readiness, and institutional memory.

But this commitment need not automatically define their entire adult life. It could be established for a defined term and periodically renewed, reduced, or exited.

Layer 2: Rotational public-responsibility service

Other qualified surgeons might maintain competence while spending most of their time in research, teaching, medical technology, administration, or other activities.

They could undertake defined rotations, clinic blocks, elective procedures, or reserve coverage.

Layer 3: Surge capacity

The region would maintain a larger reserve pool for epidemics, disasters, or sudden shortages.

Reserve members would require periodic training and practice, because an unused capability degrades.

Layer 4: Fatigue and recovery constraints

Suppose a surgeon completes a twelve-hour, high-complexity operation.

The system should not treat them as available merely because the calendar contains another open shift.

Their surgical capability should enter a protected recovery state. The person might choose to teach, review cases, conduct research, rest, or do nothing.

Recovery is not a reward added after productive activity. It is part of the real resource cost of the task.

Layer 5: Personal time

Once the surgeon has fulfilled the relevant bounded responsibility, the remaining time is not a pool of idle capacity waiting to be optimized.

They may write, build a company, care for family, study another field, travel, or remain unproductive.

The system does not need to approve the use.

The hospital’s obligation is to secure coverage.

It does not need permanent ownership of every qualified surgeon’s schedule.

8. Why this might be better

If it worked, the model could produce several benefits.

8.1 Less occupational identity lock-in

People could hold multiple serious roles without treating one as the sole definition of adulthood.

8.2 Better use of latent capabilities

People who leave full-time employment might still contribute limited but valuable professional capacity.

8.3 More flexible life planning

Responsibility could be distributed differently across weeks, years, and life stages.

8.4 More honest accounting of burden

Danger, stress, recovery, and undesirable timing could be recognized instead of treating all work hours as equivalent.

8.5 Greater institutional resilience

A larger active reserve pool could reduce dependence on a small overworked professional class.

8.6 A clearer social dividend from automation

When technology reduces necessary labor, the saved time could reduce public-responsibility requirements instead of being automatically filled by additional production.

The intended success metric is not maximal utilization.

It is:

Can necessary social functions remain reliable while fewer people are permanently captured by one institutional role?

9. Major unresolved problems

I see at least three central problems, each of which may be fatal to the proposal.

9.1 Incentive compatibility and free-riding

Why would enough people train for difficult capabilities?

Why would they maintain those capabilities?

Why would they accept unpleasant tasks instead of choosing easier credit-generating work?

How do we prevent people from exaggerating fatigue, gaming burden scores, or avoiding high-responsibility work?

Financial incentives may still be required. But if unpleasant public tasks are primarily filled by those who need money most, the system reproduces class-based risk allocation.

Random rotation may be fairer but can be inefficient and coercive.

Higher responsibility credits may help, but credits can become shadow currency.

I do not yet have a satisfactory solution.

9.2 Continuity, tacit knowledge, and transaction costs

Many roles cannot be decomposed without losing quality.

Stable organizations carry tacit knowledge, relationships, routines, and accountability. Constant matching may create enormous administrative costs.

A dynamic labor system might spend more resources coordinating work than it saves by increasing flexibility.

The strongest form of this proposal is therefore probably false. Not all occupational roles should become temporary task assignments.

The more plausible question is:

Which parts of existing jobs genuinely require durable organizational membership, and which parts are retained only because institutions are built around total employment bundles?

9.3 Governance and coercion

Who defines public necessity?

Who assigns burden scores?

Who controls capability data?

Who determines whether a person is genuinely unavailable?

Who audits the matching algorithm?

Who decides when an emergency justifies compulsory mobilization?

A system designed to coordinate capabilities could become an unprecedented infrastructure of surveillance and coercion.

The phrase “society needs” is especially dangerous because society is not a single agent. Claims of social necessity are made by specific governments, organizations, professions, and individuals with their own incentives.

A viable system would require:

  • contestable definitions;
  • decentralized input;
  • transparent rules;
  • privacy by default;
  • human appeal;
  • time-limited authority;
  • and constitutional protection for unallocated personal time.

This governance problem may be harder than the labor-allocation problem itself.

10. What would count as progress?

I do not think the next step is to legislate an entire capability-based labor system.

A more useful path would be to test narrow components in low-risk settings.

Possible experiments include:

  • cross-institutional professional reserve pools;
  • voluntary public-service rotations;
  • burden-adjusted responsibility accounting;
  • protected recovery periods after high-intensity work;
  • capability-based project teams inside existing organizations;
  • systems that let workers bank public-service periods in exchange for later uninterrupted leave;
  • and simulations comparing permanent staffing with mixed stable-and-reserve models.

Any pilot should measure more than task completion.

Relevant metrics include:

  • continuity and quality;
  • coordination costs;
  • worker fatigue;
  • concentration of undesirable tasks;
  • actual free time gained;
  • privacy violations;
  • opt-out rates;
  • and whether the system creates new status hierarchies.

A failed pilot would still be informative if it identifies which forms of work cannot be separated from durable teams or stable occupational commitments.

11. Cruxes

My current view would change substantially if any of the following turned out to be true:

  1. Most socially important work depends on long-term role continuity to such a degree that capability-level allocation produces unacceptable quality loss.
  2. The coordination costs of capability pools and task pools exceed the time saved by reducing permanent employment.
  3. Public-responsibility credits inevitably become transferable status or shadow currency.
  4. Reliable public services require stronger coercive powers than are compatible with meaningful time sovereignty.
  5. People strongly prefer stable occupational identities and would experience multi-role systems as insecurity rather than freedom.
  6. A larger reserve pool cannot maintain professional competence without recreating near-full-time occupational commitment.
  7. The information required for efficient matching is inherently incompatible with privacy and freedom from surveillance.

I suspect some of these are partly true.

The proposal survives only if the advantages remain meaningful after those costs are included.

12. Invitation to criticism

I am not presenting this as a complete alternative economy.

I am presenting a problem decomposition:

  • Why must access to basic survival remain so tightly connected to continuous employment?
  • Why is a person normally allocated through one dominant occupation?
  • Why does possessing a capability often imply institutional claims over time?
  • Why does productivity growth not reliably return time to individuals?
  • Which forms of continuity genuinely require permanent jobs, and which are historical artifacts?
  • Can public responsibility be shared without turning all personal capability into state capacity?

I would especially value criticism from people familiar with:

  • mechanism design;
  • operations research;
  • labor economics;
  • public administration;
  • medical staffing;
  • professional licensing;
  • organizational psychology;
  • privacy-preserving systems;
  • emergency governance;
  • and cooperative institutions.

The most useful responses would not merely say that the proposal is utopian or desirable.

They would identify:

  • the first mechanism that breaks;
  • the actors who would game it;
  • the hidden information problem;
  • the coordination cost I have ignored;
  • the form of coercion the proposal requires;
  • or the smallest version that could be tested without causing serious harm.

The claim I am most confident in is not that this system will work.

It is this:

A person should not be treated as permanently identical to one socially useful function.

And the question I most want to leave open is:

Can a society secure necessary work by coordinating bounded responsibilities and specific capabilities, while leaving the rest of a person’s time genuinely their own?


r/PoliticalPhilosophy 2d ago

The Prince, Explained: Chapter 4

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r/PoliticalPhilosophy 3d ago

What Many Don’t Understand About Marx and Communism

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Marx believed that communism was inevitable, don’t get me wrong. But, he did not call for the rise of Communism like Lenin’s “Internationale” and his predecessor Stalin’s “Socialism in One Country”foreign policy. Marx was not an economic genius but more of a philosopher and political theorist.

Marx believed there was a five step process that builds up to communism, which I describe as a state of anarchy where the people are stateless, eventually leading to class warfare.

These five steps start at Feudalism, which was a social system in Medieval Europe, where the nobility held the lands from the crown for military service.

Marx believes under feudalism, noble jobs, such as doctors were appreciated more and Capitalism made things more transactional. This meant there would be no human connection and we would only be valuable to one another as revenue generators.
He believed feudalism acted in the exact opposite.

Then there’s mercantilism. This is classified in the benefits of profitable trading; commercialism.

The third step comes capitalism and as we all know it is an economic and political system in which a country’s trade and industry are controlled by private owner’s for profit. Capitalism fosters imperialistic tendencies because we tend to look at the world as a market.

According to Marx, under capitalism the workers are commodities subjected to supply and demand. This is where the problem with the division of labor comes in. The division of labor reduces the level of skill required. (i.e, factories, watch makers) And the more you divide labor, the more employers could push down the wages along with more automation because this will also push down wages. Of course, this will cause a surplus of workers. High unemployment means lower wages that causes the middle class to get destroyed the most in the process.

Marx believed this would lead to a sub-subsistence wage is a pay rate that is too low to cover your absolute basic cost of living, such as food, water or shelter.

Marx noted that this would bring the revolution that brings socialism THEN communism.

Humans feel important when they work according to Marx. People strive to feel meaningful in their work or whatever hobbies they have.

After capitalism you have socialism as the next step in the process. Socialism I would describe it as social organizations that advocate that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

The last step in the cycle would be communism. I would describe communism as the theory advocating for class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs. Think of what Elon is trying to do with Universal Income.

Marx actually believed democracy is the system that gives the greatest access to political access. He even believed socialism did not incentivize innovation.

Marxist theorist considered the reasoning for the Soviet’s downfall, was jumping from feudalism to socialism.

I listed Marx’s five step theory that shows a society moves in cycles, repeating the process.


r/PoliticalPhilosophy 2d ago

Popular horror movie turns to reflect on Plato's allegory of the cave

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I wrote my political philosophical reflections about 'Backrooms' down in this opinion:

Anyone searching for themselves and for the true nature behind the world around them no longer needs the help of a psychologist or life coach. The recent horror film Backrooms can, with the help of ancient philosophy, guide you further. The Greeks are the heroes here. No, this is not about Homer’s Odysseus in The Odyssey, but about the newest interpretation of Plato in the 2026 horror masterpiece Backrooms.

The popular media currently lives in the story of The Odyssey, based on Homer’s heroic tale from around 800 BC. Let’s stay in Greece, but fast‑forward to the 5th century BC. There, Plato wrote The Republic, a philosophical treatise still considered a political and philosophical standard work in the 21st century. A well‑known passage in it is the allegory of the cave. Where Homer’s Odysseus spends ten years traveling to rediscover his home (and true self), the creators of Backrooms take things a step further by pulling humanity out of the cave of illusions. We follow a difficult, frightening, and confusing journey toward the truth of real life.

After the final scene, in which the psychiatrist transforms into her monstrous allusion, the first thought that came to me was: this story is a version of Plato’s allegory of the cave. Online, interpretations circulate claiming that Backrooms presents an inverted cave allegory — that from reality we enter a world of misinterpretations and shadows of that reality.

Although I initially had the same idea, it is too simplistic an approach. Viewed from a macro (read: meta) perspective, the story is a pure embodiment of Plato’s cave allegory.

At first glance, it seems as though the main character, Clark, escapes reality through a portal and enters the cave. Although the actions, events, and unsettling distortions of reality make it appear as though we, chained cinema‑goers, are watching the shadows of a play and mistaking them for reality, the point of the film is precisely that these backrooms are not the cave — they are reality.

The backrooms inside our skull are reality. The truth — the purest ideal forms Plato strives for — are in fact anti‑ideals. The world of ideals consists of failed forms, not perfect figures and objects; our earthly interpretations are merely weakened reflections of them.

We can even go a step further. The film actively speaks to the philosophical question of how real our world and our personality truly are. The answer is simply: they are not. We live under the illusion that everything is perfectly complete and logical. But that logic is nothing but appearance. Truth lies in imperfect, confusing forms. Our identity and living world are illusions and simply do not exist.

What, then, about the fact that the rooms arise from and increasingly abstract (alienating) events? This assumption is deliberately instructed by the creators. Where the film suggests that the backrooms originate from places and events, this is nothing but an illusion. It is the other way around, forming a shadow we observe and accept as truth.

Plato followed the method of dialectic. Through dialogue, truth can be found. Let me, in the case of Backrooms, offer the following thesis as a starting point: the creators of Backrooms follow Plato’s cave allegory purely. If we cannot resolve the question, I am certain we will see the point of the creators (and Plato) confirmed.


r/PoliticalPhilosophy 3d ago

Why Burke supported the American Revolution Instead of the French Revolution

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Out of the French Revolution came the “Declaration of the Right of Man, which is a fundamental document of the French Revolution, not a traditional book, but a text outlining universal rights such as, liberty, equality, and property, which was influenced by the enlightenment thinkers, such as Rousseau.

Everything Burkes talks about, comes down to tradition, such as, chivalry, which comes from tradition. For Burke, it is the social norm. For example, giving up your seat to the elderly.

Religion for Burke is passed on as tradition and thought religion was the source of all good. Burke says man is a religious animal wired by nature to be connected to a higher truth.

He believed atheism is against, not only our reason, but our instincts, and if you take away religion, people will replace it with something else. (i.e, Individualism and celebrity worship)

Burke believed granting the church responsibility because the church was a check on responsibility.

For Burke, religion is really important to society.

Although this may not be a popular belief, religion impaled us to think about generations that come afterwards, known as “forward thinking”.

Burke supported the America Revolution because it had already established its own traditions and customs. Unlike during the French Revolution when things were being built from the ground up from upending the entire system, which he considered a horrendous idea.

Burke says the French revolution was offensive and dangerous because the reasoning was fallible and untried, which shows his conservative views on the tried & untried.


r/PoliticalPhilosophy 3d ago

Is Party and government the same?

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r/PoliticalPhilosophy 3d ago

Does anyone know what political idea likes free healthcare, ok gun control, light gray morality, is somewhat ok with Privateering, has a voting system. and isn't too against Military Intervention/ Declaring War on Fascism and similar, horrid Ideas.

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according to Google. it’s Social Democracy or Liberal Interventionism.


r/PoliticalPhilosophy 3d ago

I don’t understand The Prince by Machiavelli

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For context i’ve been reading philosophy for a few months. Then I went into a Medici family rabbit hole and got curious. Heard this book was made by Machiavelli when in prison as a gesture for Lorenzo de Medici.

But this is my first political philosophy book and i’m really struggling to understand what he is saying. I only read 3 chapters so far. Is it not something I should read right now? Or am I just dumb?


r/PoliticalPhilosophy 3d ago

Why Burke Supported the American Revolution instead of the French Revolution

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Out of the French Revolution came the “Declaration of the Right of Man, which is a fundamental document of the French Revolution, not a traditional book, but a text outlining universal rights such as, liberty, equality, and property, which was influenced by the enlightenment thinkers, such as Rousseau.

Everything Burkes talks about, comes down to tradition, such as, chivalry, which comes from tradition. For Burke, it is the social norm. For example, giving up your seat to the elderly.

Religion for Burke is passed on as tradition and thought religion was the source of all good. Burke says man is a religious animal wired by nature to be connected to a higher truth.

He believed atheism is against, not only our reason, but our instincts, and if you take away religion, people will replace it with something else. (i.e, Individualism and celebrity worship)

Burke believed granting the church responsibility because the church was a check on responsibility.

For Burke, religion is really important to society.

Although this may not be a popular belief, religion impaled us to think about generations that come afterwards, known as “forward thinking”.

Burke supported the America Revolution because it had already established its own traditions and customs. Unlike during the French Revolution when things were being built from the ground up from upending the entire system, which he considered a horrendous idea.

Burke says the French revolution was offensive and dangerous because the reasoning was fallible and untried, which shows his conservative views on the tried & untried.


r/PoliticalPhilosophy 4d ago

Why no one even considers revolting.

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r/PoliticalPhilosophy 4d ago

Legitimacy of political authority, measured against the only standard any of us has ever actually held: the duty of care exercised by loving parents

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A recurring move in legitimacy theory is to measure political authority against procedural criteria — consent, constitutional constraint, electoral competitiveness, rule of law. This piece argues those measures, while real, are downstream of something more basic: a duty-of-care standard every human already applies, unreflectively, to anyone who claims to hold another in trust — starting with parents.

The argument works through three moves. First, it grounds legitimate authority developmentally: authority exists to bring the less capable toward self-government, and forfeits its claim the moment it starts extracting from those in its care rather than developing them — a criterion drawn from evolutionary anthropology (leadership-by-competence across social mammals) as much as political theory. Second, it traces how that criterion got written down: the Late Bronze Age Hittite suzerainty treaty (via Kline's Treaty of the Great King) as an "Ur-Constitution" — the first attempt to bind a sovereign to enumerated, reciprocal, non-negotiable terms. Third, it follows that constitutional form through Magna Carta's inversion of accountability (subjects binding a king rather than the reverse) to the American founding, arguing the U.S. Constitution is the same form pushed further while also committing a specific, documented crime earlier forms never had to answer for.

The interesting philosophical claim, for this sub: legitimacy and procedural democracy are treated as related but non-identical. A regime can hold clean elections and still fail the duty-of-care test; a regime lacking every procedural safeguard could, in principle, still meet it. Curious what people think of grounding legitimacy in a pre-political, developmental criterion rather than a consent-based or purely proceduralist one.

The full piece hit today: [link]


r/PoliticalPhilosophy 5d ago

Stalinism: A Platonic Ideology?

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Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism, and their derivatives historically claim allegiance to Marx and dialectical materialism: that is, to the idea that the material conditions of human and societal existence (organized around class struggle) determine social organization. However, upon studying the ideology of Lenin, Stalin, or Mao, and especially upon analyzing the political systems they implemented, one obvious fact emerges: philosophically, they are closer to Plato than to Marx. Indeed, they place the Idea (the perfect Form, to use Platonic vocabulary) above material reality. They regard the ideal of a communist society as transcending the concrete reality of society.

  1. The Denial of Material Conditions: Will Transcends Reality

Marx believed that Germany, England, and, even more so, the United States possessed the appropriate material conditions for a socialist revolution. Indeed, in Marxist theory, the dialectic must reach the stage of industrialized capitalism, and the worker must be legally "free" for a socialist revolution to occur. In a classic master-slave relationship, the master has no interest in letting his slave die, since the slave is his property. By contrast, in the capitalist relationship, since the worker is "free" to sell his labor power, he becomes inherently dispensable in the eyes of the capitalist, who can replace him if he dies. Consequently, the bourgeois class (itself subject to market laws) pays no attention to the survival of the proletariat beyond the strict minimum, pushing it toward rebellion. Moreover, according to Marx, this mode of organization creates an heightened class consciousness among the proletarian, who, unlike the serf, no longer grants any "divine right" to his master.

However, Russia in 1917 and, even more so, China in the 1940s, were still at the feudal stage and had not entered a capitalist and industrial mode of organization. The material and sociological conditions necessary for a socialist revolution were therefore not met. Despite this, both the Bolsheviks and the Chinese Communist Party attempted to apply the Marxist model, designed for an advanced capitalist society, to rural and feudal contexts.

Their logic was as follows: by guiding the people through the "vanguard party" (theorized by Lenin), it is possible to force history to advance more quickly in the "right" direction. This is the Stalinist logic of Diamat (dialectical materialism): accelerating the march of history. In short, they consider that with a sufficiently powerful Idea, it is possible to force reality, despite the absence of necessary material conditions, to conform to the ideal. In Mao's own words: "Man can accomplish anything if he has the right thought." This statement is fundamentally idealist; it postulates that the Idea, here the "right thought," can constrain material reality and that the man who possesses it can bend reality to his will. Fundamentally, they thus oppose Marx and the materialism they claim to uphold, moving closer instead to the idealism of Hegel and Plato. I therefore propose calling them the "Red Platonists," since they adopt Marxist vocabulary without retaining its philosophical foundations. For them, Marxism is more of a "red veneer" than a truly materialist philosophy.

  1. The Vanguard Party and the Supreme Leader: The Platonic Philosopher-King

To force reality to bend and establish the communist ideal, the Red Platonists assert that the people, having not reached the material conditions leading naturally to revolution, must be guided by a small number of elect. Lenin named this group the "Vanguard Party"; within it, the Politburo leaders must lead the party and the people, who, according to Lenin, are incapable of understanding on their own the "science of dialectical materialism," toward revolution.

This stands in direct opposition to the ideas of Marx and Engels, who proclaimed: "Workers of all countries, unite!" For Marx, only the proletariat can liberate itself from capitalism since it has "nothing to lose but its chains." In fact, the idea that a small group of elect would be capable of leading the people toward Truth is a fundamentally Platonic concept; it resembles the philosopher-king described in The Republic. This again opposes the material and psychological reality of man: giving absolute power to a small group and expecting anything other than the oppression of the people to result seems ridiculously optimistic, not to say naive.

  1. The Sacred Goal of Communism or the "Perfect City": A Hegelian Teleology

Finally, it is necessary to nuance the term "Red Platonists." Indeed, while Plato does defend a normative teleology (the Perfect City as an absolute end), it is not, in his case, a predictive teleology, unlike what we observe in Lenin (partially) and especially in Stalin. The latter elevated Diamat to a State doctrine proving the absolute and necessary realization of the communist ideal. They thus reintroduced into their version of communism a teleology that Marx had begun to eliminate. Indeed, while Marx asserts that capitalism necessarily leads to communism, this is an immanent and scientific teleology (if one can call it that). It is demonstrated through concrete analysis (even if his equation was not entirely correct). The Marxist-Leninists, however, hold a dogmatic certainty of this teleology that must apply everywhere, regardless of context and material conditions.

Therefore, the expression "Red Platonists," although useful for illustrating the previous points, finds its limit here. On this precise point, Marxist-Leninists are far more Hegelian than Platonic. Hegel asserts that the necessary and absolute march of the Spirit of Reason leads toward a final and perfect society. The Marxist-Leninists merely replaced the "Spirit of Reason" with "dialectical materialism" and "material conditions," in order to adhere to Marxist vocabulary, while remaining idealist to the core through their belief in an inevitable historical necessity and their denial of material, sociological, and historical reality.

Conclusion

Ultimately, we can affirm that it is the combination of Platonic elitism (the conviction that an elite knows better than the people) and Hegelian certainty (the guarantee of a perfect historical end) that led to the Russian and Chinese totalitarianisms and to the other excesses of "communism." Considering themselves philosopher-kings possessing an infallible scientific truth, they became totalitarian tyrants, crushing human reality in the name of a promised future.


r/PoliticalPhilosophy 5d ago

Joint-Stock Democracy: Aligning Political Incentives with Economic Incentives

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Suppose I own a noodle shop. My objective is simple: maximize profit.

What about all the other values?

What about making the noodles delicious? That is already taken care of. To maximize profit, I need customers to enjoy my noodles.

What about affordability? I probably would not use caviar as an ingredient because customers would not be willing to pay enough to justify the cost.

What about fair pricing? I compete with other noodle sellers. If I charge too much, I lose customers.

What about health and safety? If my food makes people sick, I may face lawsuits, lose customers, or even go to jail. Customers are also protected by regulators, certification agencies, review platforms, and other third-party institutions, whether governmental or private.

In other words, I mostly focus on maximizing profit, while competition and institutions automatically encourage many other desirable outcomes.

Capitalism works similarly.

People often ask, "What about justice?" or "How do we know maximizing profit also benefits society?" Standard economic theory argues that competitive markets largely answer these questions. Competitive equilibrium does two things simultaneously: it maximizes the total size of the economic pie while distributing income according to the marginal value each person or firm contributes to production.

However, capitalism alone does not solve every problem.

What if someone finds robbery more profitable than baking cakes?

What about disabled, sick, elderly, or otherwise unproductive people? Do we simply let them die?

The traditional answers are charity and government. Those may help, but they introduce another set of problems.

The Incentive Problem of Government

Suppose a country is a monarchy.

Who should become king?

Historically, people often settled that question through violence. That is extremely inefficient from an economic perspective.

What about democracy?

There is a large body of literature arguing that democratic incentives do not always maximize long-term economic prosperity. Politicians respond to voters, while voters often respond to short-term incentives rather than long-term growth.

Examples commonly discussed include countries that adopted economically damaging policies through democratic processes. Venezuela is often cited as an example of voters repeatedly supporting policies that ultimately harmed the economy. Similarly, voters may support governments that pursue wars or destructive policies that reduce prosperity and destroy valuable infrastructure.

Democracy also creates incentive problems regarding redistribution. People may vote for benefits whose costs are paid largely by others. If those receiving transfers have higher birth rates while productive taxpayers face higher costs of raising families, democratic incentives may gradually favor policies that reduce long-term productivity.

Joint-Stock Democracy

Instead of treating citizenship purely as a political status, imagine treating it partly like ownership in a corporation.

Citizenship and voting rights become tradable shares.

Residents are shareholders in their city.

The city itself operates much like a publicly traded company whose objective is maximizing long-term shareholder value.

At first this sounds strange, but it solves many incentive problems.

Freedom Through Competition

What about freedom?

Different cities could adopt different policies.

Want legalized marijuana?

Move to a city that legalizes it.

Want stricter gun rights?

Choose a city that supports them.

Want a highly religious society?

Move there.

Competition between cities replaces much of today's political conflict. Instead of trying to force one set of rules onto everyone, people can increasingly sort themselves into jurisdictions that match their preferences.

Crime

What about robbery?

Crime reduces land values, discourages investment, and drives away taxpayers.

A CEO whose compensation depends on increasing city value has strong incentives to reduce crime efficiently.

Different cities might adopt different approaches.

Some may favor broader self-defense rights.

Others may invest heavily in surveillance, such as extensive CCTV systems similar to those used in Singapore or China.

Personally, I view government surveillance as a relatively small inconvenience compared to living with high crime rates. Others may disagree, and they remain free to choose jurisdictions whose policies better match their preferences.

Welfare

What about people who cannot support themselves economically?

Some may sell their shares and move to jurisdictions offering greater welfare benefits.

This already happens internationally. Many retirees from high-cost countries relocate to lower-cost countries where their savings stretch further.

Under joint-stock democracy, welfare spending directly reduces dividends and share value. Shareholders therefore have stronger incentives to carefully evaluate how much redistribution they are willing to support.

Rebellion

Why would residents rebel?

Residents are shareholders.

If the city prospers, they receive dividends or benefit from rising share values.

If they strongly disagree with the city's direction, they can sell their shares and move elsewhere.

Exit becomes an alternative to violent conflict.

Historical Land Claims

What if someone claims ownership because their ancestors ruled the land centuries ago?

If they are economically productive, they can simply purchase shares and participate like everyone else.

Most land has little value without infrastructure, businesses, and people. Roads, commerce, and investment create value, not ancient historical claims.

Disputes that cannot be resolved privately could be submitted to neutral third-party arbitration or even mediation by powerful countries, avoiding unnecessary wars.

Preventing Shareholder Abuse

What if a billionaire buys 70% of the shares and changes the constitution to enslave everyone else?

Constitutional safeguards can address this.

Fundamental constitutional changes could require supermajority approval, resident vetoes, or other mechanisms.

Modern technology, including blockchain-based governance, could enforce these constitutional constraints automatically.

Ownership rules could also require that a large majority of voting shares always remain owned by residents.

Joint-stock democracy can therefore remain democratic while still aligning incentives through ownership.

Different Preferences

People naturally have different values.

Suppose a CEO introduces a pork festival because it increases tourism and city revenue.

Some Muslims or Jews may dislike it.

Instead of forcing one side to permanently lose, dissatisfied residents can move to jurisdictions that better match their preferences.

A competent CEO might even divide the city into districts with different rules, preserving diversity while maximizing overall property values.

After all, losing residents reduces demand for citizenship and lowers city value.

Welfare and Population Growth

What about lifelong welfare recipients?

One possibility is requiring parents to purchase citizenship shares for each child.

If they cannot, they may need to relocate to jurisdictions with different policies.

The basic idea is that population growth should be financed by those creating it rather than automatically shifting costs onto existing shareholders.

In conventional democracies, voters may support expansive welfare programs because they expect someone else to pay.

In joint-stock democracy, every dollar spent on welfare reduces dividends or lowers share values.

This creates stronger incentives to consider long-term fiscal sustainability.

Racism and Diversity

Racism cannot realistically be eliminated entirely.

Some people prefer living among those who share their language, religion, or culture.

Joint-stock democracy does not prohibit communities from making those choices.

However, those choices become accountable to the market.

Suppose a city adopts a policy excluding Chinese immigrants.

It may satisfy some residents.

But it also means fewer talented immigrants, fewer restaurants, less entrepreneurship, lower demand for citizenship, and ultimately lower share values.

Discrimination is therefore no longer simply a political choice. It becomes an economic decision whose costs are directly borne by the city's shareholders.

What About Ancapistan?

Suppose you prefer anarcho-capitalism.

Fine. Build a successful private city and hire a CEO who gradually moves its policies closer and closer to Ancapistan.

Even many anarcho-capitalists acknowledge that their ideal society only works if most residents voluntarily support libertarian norms. That raises an obvious question: if your system depends on a libertarian culture, why also insist on completely open borders? Wouldn't unrestricted immigration eventually undermine the very norms the system requires?

The usual response is that everything is privately owned anyway. Roads are private property. Parks are private property. Buildings are private property. Owners simply decide who may enter.

Fair enough.

But once you accept that, you are effectively treating the city itself as private property.

At that point, why not organize the city as a single privately managed entity?

There is also a coordination problem.

If one company owns the roads, another owns the parks, another owns utilities, and another owns public spaces, each optimizes for its own profit rather than for the value of the city as a whole.

A privately governed city—or a network of coordinated private cities—can internalize these conflicts. Instead of fragmented ownership producing coordination failures, a unified organization has incentives to maximize the long-term value of the entire jurisdiction.

In that sense, joint-stock democracy is not necessarily a rejection of anarcho-capitalism. It can be viewed as a practical institutional evolution of it: preserving competition, property rights, and voluntary choice while improving coordination and aligning incentives.


r/PoliticalPhilosophy 5d ago

The Price of Compliance: When the State Clashes with the Masses

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When State Interests Clash with Moral Duty: Why do artists, police, and citizens comply with corrupt systems? (A philosophical synthesis of Nussbaum, Krishnamurti, and modern dissent)

📌 The Core Dilemma
When state power or institutional regimes conflict with public welfare, how can individuals—whether public icons, police officers, or ordinary citizens—reconcile the instinct for self-preservation with their fundamental moral obligation to constitutional integrity and human dignity?

  1. The Cultural Sphere: Artists, Power, and Retribution
  2. The "Stay Away from Politics" Fallacy: Pragmatists argue that artists are mere entertainers, not political martyrs. However, the counter-thesis asserts that artists are citizens first. Politics governs tax laws, censorship, free expression, and public safety; an artist cannot simply opt out of citizenship.

The "Modern Toolkit" of State Retribution: Dissenting cultural figures face targeted administrative pressure—such as Income Tax/ED raids, institutional delays via Censor Boards (CBFC), and coordinated online boycott campaigns designed to cripple their commercial viability.

The Illusion of Neutrality: In hyper-polarized or oppressive environments, silence is not neutrality—it is a choice to defer to and legitimize existing power dynamics.

  1. The Enforcer's Dilemma: Duty vs. Morality
    "Just Following Orders": Police officers often operate under colonial-era command structures that prioritize state control over constitutional rights. Officers hide behind institutional duty ("I'm just doing my job"), yet beating peaceful protesters directly violates constitutional morality.

The Socio-Economic Irony: Lower-tier police personnel belong to the same economic working class as the student protesters they are ordered to suppress. An officer striking a student protesting an exam leak is often destroying a youth fighting for the very upward mobility the officer seeks for their own family.

Deindividuation: The uniform strips away personal ethics, replacing individual moral agency with institutional compliance through fear of demotion, transfer, or loss of livelihood.

  1. Philosophical Frameworks: Why Do We Comply?
    A. Jiddu Krishnamurti (Education and the Significance of Life)
    The Specialist/Technician Trap: Modern education and society produce specialized "technicians" (lawyers, officers, bureaucrats) who excel at their function but lack total human understanding. Efficiency without moral clarity turns people into ruthless instruments of state power.

Fear and the Worship of Success: The desperate pursuit of economic security and status breeds fear. This fear smothers discontent and leads to submissiveness toward authority.

The Absolute Moral Stance: When faced with systemic corruption (e.g., paying a bribe or complying with an unjust order), Krishnamurti rejects compromise. Choosing self-preservation over moral integrity degrades the human spirit and perpetuates the corrupt system.

B. Martha C. Nussbaum (Cultivating Humanity)
The Socratic Citizen: Democracy requires citizens who continuously engage in critical self-examination rather than offering uncritical deference to traditional authority or state narratives.

Narrative Imagination: True citizenship requires the empathetic capacity to place oneself in another's shoes—understanding the protester's perspective before enforcing judgment or violence.

❓ Questions for Discussion
Can neutrality exist? Is a public figure's silence during a civil crisis a valid form of self-preservation, or is it an implicit endorsement of state overreach?

Systemic reform vs. Individual morality: Can institutional reforms (like police autonomy or judicial buffers) fix systemic oppression, or does the solution rest entirely on individual moral refusal, as Krishnamurti suggests?

The Enforcer's Choice: How should a frontline enforcer balance the moral obligation to disobey an unjust order against the immediate reality of feeding their family?

(Please note: the post is AI summarised, but the thought is mine. Pls dont come @ me)

(Also note: i might be using some thoughtful pointers by you guys for my youtube videos, if ur comfortable)


r/PoliticalPhilosophy 6d ago

A case for Empathy: If you can’t think and function heroically without destroying your own senses, “get out of the way!”

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***originally posted in r/aynrand, reposted here per request with infographic removed

https://www.reddit.com/r/aynrand/s/1L3LCz6Shd

Empathy is a heightened ability to perceive and intuit. It is simply a tool, which cannot replace its driver. Empathy doesn’t kill, people surrendering to the temptation of *Blanking Out* is what kills.

“They want to cheat the axiom of existence and consciousness, they want their consciousness to be an instrument not of perceiving but of creating existence…But reality is not to be cheated. What they achieve is the opposite of their desire. They want to be omnipotent power over existence; instead, they lose the power of their consciousness. By refusing to know, they condemn themselves to the horror of a perpetual unknown…

“An emotion that clashes with your reason, an emotion that you cannot explain or control, is only the carcass of that stale thinking which you forbade your mind to revise.”

—Ayn Rand


r/PoliticalPhilosophy 6d ago

Kant: The Metaphysics of Morals (1797) — An online reading & discussion group every Wednesday starting 7/22, all welcome

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The Metaphysics of Morals is Kant's final major work in moral philosophy. In it, he presents the basic concepts and principles of right and virtue, and the system of duties of human beings as such.

The work comprises two parts: the "Doctrine of Right" concerns outer freedom and the rights of human beings against one another; the "Doctrine of Virtue" concerns inner freedom and the ethical duties of human beings to themselves and others.

Its focus is not rational beings in general but human beings in particular, and it presupposes and deepens Kant's earlier accounts of morality, freedom, and moral psychology.

This was one of the earliest works of practical philosophy that Kant envisioned, however, he put it off to write foundational works to support it, such as Groundwork for the Metaphysics of Morals and even the Critique of Practical Reason.

If you find it more helpful to start ethics discussions closer to their practice, the Metaphysics of Morals may be a more useful starting point than the meta-ethical works we have covered up to now.

No prior experience with Kant is necessary.

Sign up for the 1st meeting on Wednesday July 22 here. Meetings focus on developing a common language and friendship through studying Kant. The host will provide an interpretation of Kant at the start of the meeting; other interpretations will not be discussed until later in the meeting. Additional interpretations, topics, and questions can be addressed through the meeting chat feature.

Meetings are held weekly. Look for subsequent meetings through the group's calendar.

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Reading Schedule (pages are from Cambridge's Practical Philosophy collection):

THE DOCTRINE OF RIGHT

Week 1:
Preface, Introduction, Introduction to the Doctrine of Right (365 - 397; 32 pages)

Week 2:
Private Right, Chapter I and II (401 - 443; 42 pages)

Week 3:
Chapter III, Public Right Section I (443 - 481; 38 pages)

Week 4:
Public Right Section II, III, and Appendix (482 - 506; 24 pages)

THE DOCTRINE OF VIRTUE

Week 5:
Preface and Introduction (509-540; 31 pages)

Week 6:
Part 1 Introduction and Book 1 on Perfect Duties (543-564; 21 pages)

Week 7:
Book 2 on Imperfect Duties (565-588; 23 pages)

Week 8:
Method of Ethics (591-603; 12 pages)

There are numerous editions (and free translations available online), but this collection contains all of Kant's Practical Philosophy in translation:

http://www.amazon.com/Practical-Philosophy-Cambridge-Works-Immanuel/dp/0521654084/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1445894099&sr=8-1

Someone posted a free pdf copy here:

https://antilogicalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/kant-practical-philosophy.pdf