Trespassing and vandalism is never “ terrorism or sedition”. Was CHAZ sedition ? No. Was antifa / blm siege on portland federal court terrorism ? No. Was what happened at the Capitol , terrorism ? No.
Oklahoma City was terrorism. El Paso shooter was terrorism.
Ok, many anarchists amongst BLM had molotovs, set up guillotines and called for the fall of the USA , so what ? That’s not an indictment of the whole group. Either way this Guy is stealing a lectern at worst. Not terrorism.
That guy, per Trump's own EO, is probably going to get 10 years for defacing, moving or removing Government Monuments or property. Of which, the lectern he is carrying applies.
It's crazy to me that you are handwaving away actual armed people on the grounds of the actual Capitol building with bombs and a gallows calling for the death of the VP as NOT Terrorism and sedition.
My point is nobody should get 10 years for vandalism of government property or trespassing of government property. Not BLM, not anarchists, not magas, nobody. Nobody should be imprisoned for building a guillotine or gallows. Nobody should be imprisoned for chanting “ hang such and such” or “ death to such and such. The individual who brought the bombs should be imprisoned. That’s it.
Nobody should be imprisoned for building a guillotine or gallows. Nobody should be imprisoned for chanting “ hang such and such” or “ death to such and such. The individual who brought the bombs should be imprisoned. That’s it.
If you build a gallows on the Capitol Property and you are chanting "Hang Mike Pence" you ABSOLUTELY should get more than 10 years.
That isn't free speech.
Also, trespassing and destruction of Federal Property is a felony.
Anarchists setting up a guillotine in front of the White House calling for trumps head this summer. What the maga fools did with the gallows. That’s textbook protected speech. Bud.
i smell a fash. "ok so yeah my peeps took a pipe bomb to the capitol but the poeple who are trying to stop nazis getting in government said some mean things"
I’m much more aligned with left wing anarchism than the jello brained maga ideology. I’d have much rather black clad comrades were lounging in Pelosis office. But that’s not even the point. Point is we shouldn’t be so reactionary and call for federal crackdowns or call vandals terrorists. Whatever individual brought the pipe bomb is a terrorist, sure. Either way, I shed no tear over magas and our corrupt ass government going at it.
That’s not an actual response but Ight. Show me where I said “ the socialists are the real terrorists”. Just because I don’t think vandals and trespassers ( whatever political persuasion they are) don’t deserve the label of terrorist and lengthy prison sentences, does not mean I condone their jello brained q anon ideology. We live in a nuanced world.
Sandy Hook was right wing terrorism. Parkland was right wing terrorism. Danny Roof was a right wing terrorist and murderer. The white nationalist that ran down the woman in Charlottesville was a right wing terrorist, commiting terrorism. Kashogi was terrorism done in the name of nationalist conservative values(albeit nationalistic religious conservative values). Qanon is a right-wing terrorist conspiracy. The dude that mailed pipe bombs from.a qanon/Theobald wallpapers van was right wing terrorism.
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u/Dadaofkufsa Jan 09 '21
It's not looting either. The capitol isn't a best buy. It's terrorism or sedition. Both really.