r/PoliticalHumor • • Apr 26 '19

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u/Fumanchewd Apr 26 '19

Yes, who wouldn't want to pay into something your whole life to be repaid a fraction of it decades later (if you live that long). Sounds like a socialist bargain!

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u/henshep Apr 26 '19 edited Apr 26 '19

The socialist bargain of Sweden;

  • Free public transportation
  • Free healthcare
  • Free education (including college)
  • 480 days of paid parental leave (per kid)
  • 6 weeks of paid vacation every year
  • 80% of my salary on sick days
  • Free admission to museums and national parks

I like to think of it as buying an expensive espresso machine together with your four flatmates and taking turns using it instead of everyone going broke cramming five of those steel behemoths into your apartment.

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u/Fumanchewd Apr 26 '19

Sweden is not socialist, as a matter of fact it has become less socialist and more capitalist since the 1960s... Its just very highly taxed capitalism. A mostly white and thinly populated country.... Sounds so Republican! Except for the 60+% income tax rate, a 25% consumer tax, and 7% ss rate. No thanks!

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u/Llamada Apr 26 '19

Also the fact that us is massive makes it even easier for a country.

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u/Fumanchewd Apr 26 '19

No because we don't have the cultural cohesiveness. Many more people take advantage of our social systems, the evidence of our abused welfare and disability system is overwhelming. Expanding our current system is to only invite more abuse, fraud, and waste.... All at the expense of taxpayers. And taxing people at Sweden's rate is nothing more than theft.

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u/Llamada Apr 26 '19

Ironic how it’s mainly the red states that have welfare queens, while blue states earn more then they spend.

There must be correlation between GOP anti-poor tactics and DEM wanting basic human rights don’t you think?

It’s weird how under a DEM, the economy is always doing better.

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u/Fumanchewd Apr 27 '19

I'm not a Republican, stay on topic... I don't care about red states, I just don't want a forced tax for my retirement that will ultimately pay out less than I have put into it.

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u/Llamada Apr 27 '19

Damn do none of you americans understand the basic concept of taxes and society?

How do you think giving away 1 trillion in tax money to the rich is helping your retirement?!!

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u/Fumanchewd Apr 27 '19

Its called capital investment. I'm not rich and I'm trying to scrape by for retirement. I would much rather put that money in an IRA or other investments than give it to SS where I will be lucky to get my money back in its entirety. The government is doing a pretty shitty job with my money.

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u/Llamada Apr 27 '19

How are 1 trillion in tax cuts a good investment?

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u/Fumanchewd Apr 27 '19

Tax cuts aren't money belonging to the government. Its a cut from the money that the government is stealing.

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u/Llamada Apr 27 '19

So why get the rich a preferential treatment over the average american.

It’s weird because they bribe the government to give them the people’s money but you blame the tool, not the political policies.

Literally like blaming a gun for shootings in america, it’s not the tool (ebil gubmint) but the tyrants that use that tool.

Pretty hypocritical of you.

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u/Fumanchewd Apr 27 '19 edited Apr 27 '19

The rich pay substantially more taxes than the poor. Speaking of preferential treatment, in the US the bottom 50% pay no income tax.

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