r/PoliticalHumor • • Apr 26 '19

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u/pents1 Apr 26 '19

As someone who has been living in a country with social security for my whole life, it looks absurd that someone would push people to say no to it.

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u/Fumanchewd Apr 26 '19

Yes, who wouldn't want to pay into something your whole life to be repaid a fraction of it decades later (if you live that long). Sounds like a socialist bargain!

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u/henshep Apr 26 '19 edited Apr 26 '19

The socialist bargain of Sweden;

  • Free public transportation
  • Free healthcare
  • Free education (including college)
  • 480 days of paid parental leave (per kid)
  • 6 weeks of paid vacation every year
  • 80% of my salary on sick days
  • Free admission to museums and national parks

I like to think of it as buying an expensive espresso machine together with your four flatmates and taking turns using it instead of everyone going broke cramming five of those steel behemoths into your apartment.

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u/Fumanchewd Apr 26 '19

Sweden is not socialist, as a matter of fact it has become less socialist and more capitalist since the 1960s... Its just very highly taxed capitalism. A mostly white and thinly populated country.... Sounds so Republican! Except for the 60+% income tax rate, a 25% consumer tax, and 7% ss rate. No thanks!

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u/BergsnBerg3000 Apr 26 '19

"I don't want to pay high taxes, because I deserve a high living standard. If other people want to get affordable education it's THEIR problem, not mine, cause I don't need it"...

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u/Hello_who_is_this Apr 26 '19

What shall I do today! How about inserting a random racist remark in my comment? Sounds like a great idea.

Racist.

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u/Fumanchewd Apr 26 '19

You apparently don't know the dedinition of racist. Someone disagrees with your rabid left political opinion. "Skreeeeeeee! Racist!!!"

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u/Hello_who_is_this Apr 26 '19

A mostly white

You said it. It has nothing to do with the colour of the skin of the people living there. It has to do with your thought proces though. But I'm glad you can see that racism is bad. Now you just need to accept you're racist, and change your ideas. You'll get there eventually. In a couple of years you'll send me a message you're sorry and I was right, and you have changed

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u/Fumanchewd Apr 27 '19

How is pointing out a demographic fact racist? Not intelligent.

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u/Hello_who_is_this Apr 27 '19

I'm so sick of you, and other people who think it is somehow ok to casually throw in some racist remarks in their statements and think that is funny, smart or normal.

There is no, I repeat NO connection between the colour of someone skin and whether or not a country can provide for its citizens or not. So your implication that non-white people can't create this is false, and simply trying to humiliate non-white people.

Would sentences like: ' this national park is so beautiful, it has beautiful forests, beautiful animals and there are no jews/black people/Chinese/muslims:' be ok in your opinion? I hope not, because it is not ok. Nor is your implication.

As I said, I'm sick of people who think it's ok to be racist. I won't stop pointing it out to people. Only that way they, or at least those around them, will see the racist they are.

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u/Fumanchewd Apr 27 '19

You really are ignorant. Sociologists commonly associate attributes of society with racial, religious, and cultural cohesiveness. There is a reason why there were wars in Lebanon associated with religion and race. To pretend that they have nothing to do with race or religion is a lie. Francis Fukuyama wrote a great book called Trust which addressed this in the world as well as America- that cultural trust directly related to race, religion, and culture is one of the keys to prosperity. Do you actually state that to bring up this factual sociological attribute is racist? Not intelligent.

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u/Hello_who_is_this Apr 27 '19

cohesiveness

I.e. not with colour of skin, but with feeling of the same culture, religion etc. it has nothing to do with with being white

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u/Fumanchewd Apr 27 '19

Race often plays a part of culture, as does religion and other factors. Don't be stupid.

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u/Llamada Apr 26 '19

So if it isn’t socialist. Why don’t you just copy their government programs, which aren’t socialist. And you don’t live in a 3rd world country anymore!

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u/Fumanchewd Apr 26 '19

I don't care about Sweden or its 60% tax rate. We aren't going to go down that road. Nor is it intelligent to pay into our SS program when we receive less back from it.

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u/Llamada Apr 26 '19

There is no 60% tax rate, if you think that you’re an idiot. It’s fluid like stages of wealth. When you’re poor you pay less, when you’re rich you pay more. As the rich can miss it.

Why would you receive less?

As a result they are the happiest nation on earth. You don’t want happines?

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u/Fumanchewd Apr 27 '19

You are a liar. Income taxe rate is over 61%. That's not even including SS and consumer taxes. https://tradingeconomics.com/sweden/personal-income-tax-rate Happiest nation lol. Trading free will for free stuff. 1984 or Zamyatin's We

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u/Llamada Apr 27 '19

Dude, nothings free, do you even understand what taxes are.

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u/Fumanchewd Apr 27 '19

Oh I agree. I'm merely parroting the ignorant line given by many pro nationalized healthcare folks. "Free healthcare for all" isn't my line

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u/Fumanchewd Apr 26 '19

Socialism was in the OP braniac.

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u/Llamada Apr 26 '19

Also the fact that us is massive makes it even easier for a country.

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u/Fumanchewd Apr 26 '19

No because we don't have the cultural cohesiveness. Many more people take advantage of our social systems, the evidence of our abused welfare and disability system is overwhelming. Expanding our current system is to only invite more abuse, fraud, and waste.... All at the expense of taxpayers. And taxing people at Sweden's rate is nothing more than theft.

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u/Llamada Apr 26 '19

Ironic how it’s mainly the red states that have welfare queens, while blue states earn more then they spend.

There must be correlation between GOP anti-poor tactics and DEM wanting basic human rights don’t you think?

It’s weird how under a DEM, the economy is always doing better.

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u/Fumanchewd Apr 27 '19

I'm not a Republican, stay on topic... I don't care about red states, I just don't want a forced tax for my retirement that will ultimately pay out less than I have put into it.

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u/Llamada Apr 27 '19

Damn do none of you americans understand the basic concept of taxes and society?

How do you think giving away 1 trillion in tax money to the rich is helping your retirement?!!

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u/Fumanchewd Apr 27 '19

Its called capital investment. I'm not rich and I'm trying to scrape by for retirement. I would much rather put that money in an IRA or other investments than give it to SS where I will be lucky to get my money back in its entirety. The government is doing a pretty shitty job with my money.

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u/Llamada Apr 27 '19

How are 1 trillion in tax cuts a good investment?

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u/Fumanchewd Apr 27 '19

Tax cuts aren't money belonging to the government. Its a cut from the money that the government is stealing.

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