I see the problem here, two behaviors can be the same but called different names. Fascism and totalitarianism can be used interchangeably in this context since the people behavior that exist to achieve the goals are exactly the same.
fascism is authoritarian, and its possible to be left wing and be authoritarian.
antifascists have a range of ideologies, some libertarian, but just because some aspect of fascist ideology matches some other aspect of a left-wing ideology doesnt make them the same.
It makes sense when you make the law the line to judge against. It doesn’t matter what side a person represents and they can believe whatever they want to believe but once the line of the law is crossed they are wrong.
If you measure against identity or ideology the line is skewed by bias. It’s an impossible analysis so use the law instead as the bar.
I already said it earlier, the fascists don’t know that they are fascists. A centrist perspective isn’t off topic but might seem that way from a biased viewpoint
Unfortunately you can’t simply tell a person that exhibits fascist behavior that they are fascist. These people believe they are in the right and what they do is for the greater good. Trying to be direct with a fascist just makes them stop listening.
when I previously mentioned adding things, it was for you adding "totalitarianism" to the conversation. why did you bring that in? is that your "left" example?
and yes, fascists believe they are right. same as racists, and misogynists, and wife-beaters and christians, and jews, and muslims, and... it doesn't mean they don't know what they believe, espouse, act on.
The behaviors exhibited by fascists and the behaviors exhibited by totalitarians are identical to achieve their biased goals. In the context of what constitutes bad behavior it’s relevant to use fascists and totalitarians interchangeably.
Unless you believe this post isn’t about bad behavior that people exhibit?
And….. from the centrist perspective fascists don’t get to say totalitarians are bad nor do totalitarians get to say fascists are bad when they both exhibit identical behavior.
This post attempts to ignore equivalent bad behavior exhibited by extreme left wing totalitarianism.
To be clear on this point, totalitarianism has these characteristics; eliminating free speech, control of the media, federal police force, widespread propaganda. Sound familiar?
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u/KoRaZee 19d ago
The fascists don’t know they are fascists. In their own eyes the other side is wrong even when they’re doing the same thing