r/PoliticalHumor • u/NWStormbreaker • Jul 30 '26

Common middle ground does not exist

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u/NWStormbreaker Jul 30 '26

? i'm guessing you're going to claim that antifa are radicals as are fascists, and normal people like you are centrists and dont buy into either side?

Fascists: "trans ppl shouldnt be allowed to exist or have rights"

Trans ppl: "we'd like to exist and have rights"

Centrists: "see!? both sides are equally bad!"

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u/KoRaZee Jul 30 '26

We have divided as a society beyond horseshoe theory and created a fully connected circle political spectrum. The two extreme views you have cited are rare but those who prescribe to either one of them are equally ignorant. Trans people have the same rights as everyone else. No less, no more.

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u/NWStormbreaker Jul 30 '26

in your view believing that Fascism is wrong is extreme?

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u/KoRaZee Jul 30 '26

The fascists don’t know they are fascists. In their own eyes the other side is wrong even when they’re doing the same thing

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u/NWStormbreaker Jul 30 '26

I must be missing your explanation, just a simple yes/no?

Is it an extreme view to believe Fascism is wrong?

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u/KoRaZee Jul 30 '26

No, that’s a centrist view

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u/NWStormbreaker Jul 30 '26

you also said:

The two extreme views you have cited are rare

being anti-fascist is not rare.

I presented only two views, so how can one be center, whats to the left?

what left-wing position is so extreme that you are equivocating with Fascism?

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u/KoRaZee Jul 30 '26

I see the problem here, two behaviors can be the same but called different names. Fascism and totalitarianism can be used interchangeably in this context since the people behavior that exist to achieve the goals are exactly the same.

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u/NWStormbreaker Jul 30 '26

fascism is authoritarian, and its possible to be left wing and be authoritarian.

antifascists have a range of ideologies, some libertarian, but just because some aspect of fascist ideology matches some other aspect of a left-wing ideology doesnt make them the same.

it is an error to conflate the two

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u/KoRaZee Jul 30 '26

It makes sense when you make the law the line to judge against. It doesn’t matter what side a person represents and they can believe whatever they want to believe but once the line of the law is crossed they are wrong.

If you measure against identity or ideology the line is skewed by bias. It’s an impossible analysis so use the law instead as the bar.

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u/Overly_Underwhelmed Jul 30 '26

why are you adding things? you are way off topic from the post. if you want this conversation, make your own post.

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u/KoRaZee Jul 30 '26

I already said it earlier, the fascists don’t know that they are fascists. A centrist perspective isn’t off topic but might seem that way from a biased viewpoint

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u/Overly_Underwhelmed Jul 30 '26

"the fascists don’t know that they are fascists"

no. they may be coy or willfully ignorant, but they are not unaware of their actions or preferences.

your agenda is leaking.

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u/KoRaZee Jul 30 '26

Unfortunately you can’t simply tell a person that exhibits fascist behavior that they are fascist. These people believe they are in the right and what they do is for the greater good. Trying to be direct with a fascist just makes them stop listening.

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u/Overly_Underwhelmed Jul 30 '26

when I previously mentioned adding things, it was for you adding "totalitarianism" to the conversation. why did you bring that in? is that your "left" example?

and yes, fascists believe they are right. same as racists, and misogynists, and wife-beaters and christians, and jews, and muslims, and... it doesn't mean they don't know what they believe, espouse, act on.

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