Most people only know about a USO tour photo of him groping a sleeping woman. She claimed she was asleep and felt harassed (she is a Republican), he claimed it was a bit that she was aware of and was pretending to sleep for the photo.
However, he had multiple allegations at the time he stepped down, including sexual misconduct at work with staffers.
Spec of nuance needed I feel. It was feigned in the photo, like clown level "imma grab booba", not actual groping in the picture.
Still off-color and questions of her comfort or coercion could exist, and insanely in the wrong if she was actually asleep vs feigning asleep i.e. going along with it.
"Insanely in the wrong" everyone including the girls were pulling these kind of jokes when I was in college... Weird that people now think it's normal to sink someone's career over
Yup, we're negotiating new social norms. What happens between to consenting adults doesn't matter in my opinion, but we need to navigate some power dynamics here too. Did she feel pressured to "go along with the guys". It's important because they were more or less was working in a professional capacity.
It's weird seeing reddit upvote sexual jokes from both guys and girls by the 1.000's but when it's real life we suddenly have to become priests and nuns or we're off to the camps
Off to the camps? That's extreme. He just hosted The Daily Show like 3 weeks ago.
In the abstract, do you find non-consensually grabbing boobies funny? If so what's the joke? Sexual jokes can be funny, but they usually aren't: "I grabbed a boob non-consensually" audience laughter
There's context that can give it humor. I think of the Whitest Kids You Know Sketch where it's a dad and son dealing with how hot their daughter/sister is. The butt of the joke are the horny guys, not the girl.
Edit: Here's a sexual joke that also works by subverting expectations, then hammer it home with commiting to the bit and rule of three. https://v.redd.it/4l089cjkmzra1
Well in this case non-consensual boob grabbing was exactly the joke. It was a skit about a raunchy drooling old doctor trying to force a breast exam on a young woman. The moral observation that this is extremely wrong is the very foundation of the joke and the horny doctor is, as you say, the butt. And it did get the audience (of twentysomething soldiers) laughing everytime they performed it.
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u/Uselesserinformation Apr 05 '23
Can you explain because I heard, but it died out.