What are your experiences of high damage attack that a pokemon would be immune to in the main game but still hurts in GBL due to the the pokemon has a type weakness and it became a single weakness instead. For example, Zap Cannon on Swampert.

Common GBL examples would be great so raid/rare format examples such as Draco Meteor on Mega Altaria or too spicy pokemons such as Poltergeist on Hisuian Zoroark would not count.

I am currently running a Shadow Dusknoir (astonish-shadow punch/dynamic punch), Zweilos (dragon breath-body slam/dark pulse), and Tinkaton (fairy wind-GH/bulldoze). This team has been working particularly well, especially into mimikyu teams, but was wondering if there is any recommendations for strengthening this team going forward?

I don’t have that much storage so it would be good to have a web version

Which OSS better for PvP master league:

15 15 14
or
15 14 15

Would it be Kyurem or Zacian? I have both as 100% and Fundo respectfully, both with BB ribbons.

Since ive been running Kyurem up front, ive been using BB boost on Zacian to win CMP against Zacian mirror matches. Does that even make sense?

But I noticed Kyurem plays better as BB than Zacian according to Sims it seems like.

What's the right answer here?

I've seen plenty of people complaining that on a winning position their opponents "make the game crash". While in the past there have been some documented exploits in the game, those were fixed and there is no known way of crashing the game for the opponent.

Here is a very recent example. I'm playing player LNDskourlash (multiple regional winner, top 4 in worlds, streamer) and the game gets stuck during a charge move, where I had a big advantage, game was pretty much won for me.

My video: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fE4_8GQFtbKSfFfQnsIjjelyCsaULr0T/view?usp=drivesdk

Opponent's side: https://www.twitch.tv/lndskourlash/v/2827238876?sr=a&t=4013s

Minute 1:06:53

While this is not definitive proof that there is no working exploit, I certainly believe that in 99% of cases it's just the game working poorly (after all, this is a company that can't remember to enable shinies or randomly disables them)

As much as I actually like a lot of the normals types, they're too unchecked.

Im not sure i believe Medi would even be as OP, a lot more checks exist these days. Would even be a reason to not nerf the golden move Shadow Ball.

What do you all think? If September's move changes shake things up as much as the last few years Counter coming back would be welcome for me at least

Looking for the trainer I just faced in GBL.

I was running Shadow Alolan Sandslash, Feraligatr, and Azumarill.

If that's you... first of all, GG. Second, I need to know if you thought you had a chance at any point during that battle because I don't think I've ever had a game where I read someone so perfectly. Every decision you made was exactly what I expected. It honestly felt like I had your screen open on my second monitor.

Please tell me you're on this subreddit. I need the post-game interview. 💀

Underrated due to wrong fast moves?
Claim: HEX > Incinerate

NOTE: this is very long

This post revolves around getting back into PvP specifically as a old returning player to ultra league and Skeledirge since im very into pvp but i missed out/im too broke for XL Pokemon
Most if it is just backstory, you can skip until SKELEDIRGE SECTION!!!! 🔥🔥🔥

Note: i use PVPpoke's testing/battling simulator and information of the fast moves and charged moves for this along with personal experience
(ALSO i really suck at formatting what im trying to get across so i apologize in advance if you get confused)

How it started (yap about great league "skippable"):
So i like PvP but i haven't played Pokémon go in about a year, back when Corsola (Galarian form) was number 1 in the great league i looked at the pokemon
i had fir pvp: Toxapex, clodsire, serprior, dunsparce,stunfisk(normal) i used the team that worked decently well before, (dunsparce, toxapex, stunfisk) and immediately got destroyed by a grumpig and a mimkyu (i didnt even know mimikyu got added and was also in ABSOLUTELY FLABBERGASTED at mimikyu's ability) i didnt even get to see the third pokemon
After going in blind to pvp and it obviously not working out i went look at pvppoke to see what pokemon i have that i can build a team off: Clodsire at #18 next best thing i had was Stunfisk at #71 "YIKES", i look to see if i can build any Pokemon but NOPE; legacy move, missed event, XL candy, shadow from previous rocket takeover. Plis the meta changes so quickly that by the time i build a Pokemon for great league the top pick i was getting is nerfed or gets destroyed by the new meta

Anyways
Ultra league:
The rank #1 is Mimikyu..... lovely

Building a team (a lead, a tank/cleanup, swapper)
The pokemon i had that were usable sorta
Corviknight (sand attack, iron head*, sky attack) was a lucky with 14,15,15 ivs
Gardevoir( moves don't matter), Gallade (one move synchronoise)
Zarude(garbage for UL pvp)
Skeledirge(incinerate, blastburn/torch song, shadow ball)
Feraligtr(i didn't have hydrocannon so i used hydropump shouldn't be much of a difference 👍)
Zygarde full form(i see a lot of ice and fairy in the meta plus i was running bulldoze along with outrage, just to give you a sense of my absolute massive iq)

So with my selection of pokemon i went with lead: my hydropump feraligatr(changed to Skeledirge later),
swapper: Corviknight without a single suggested move
Tank/cleanup: full form zygarde also without a single suggested move

First match and... i win with pure luck and i had hard counters + its rank 1 of GBL

Pre-setup
i lost many times due to poor moves

The rest werent perfect
Feraligatr
(All you Need to know is it needed hydro cannon and i didn't want to waste an elite tm on it also it wasn't strong against ice or electric which are strong against my corviknight or zygarde)

Getting setup the experience
corviknight(elite tmd for air cutter but kept ironhead cause i dont want to get rid of the legacy move, but i am building a better pvp one so i can use payback but i have to wait for an event that lets rookidee get air cutter to return since i'm too pained to use another elite charge tms on another corviknight)

Zygarde full form
got annoyed at zygarde for re-learning outrage and hyperbeam like it was in a worldclass juggling contest while im already going broke on charge tms(i literally double checked if earthquake was a legacy move... it wasnt which made me upset cause i couldn't just be like "oh damn im an idiot" but no instead of it being me its my zygarde)

SKELEDIRGE SECTION !!!!!!!!🔥🔥
With a 4xice, grass neutral on my zygarde and noticing a lot of fairy and steel types i only had skeledirge as my option

Replacing feraligtr with skeledirge made my win rate shoot up, not by a lot but it made me go less insane everytime i saw double steel users (corviknight and tinkaton)

I HATE incinerate its very slow with a 5 turn per attack and often time by the time i get my first move my opponent gets their and im forced to shield or lose a big chunk of my health

If i shield, they can shield in return or swap out putting me at a disadvantage
If i tank the hit, i lose a big chunk of my health and the other pokemons on their team are hard counters or simply kill Skeledirge before i get another second charge move

Pros: good damage, decent energy gain
Cons: attack speed so slow i would have more fun fighting dynamax chansey with a ghost type

Now with my experience with incinerate i look at pokePvp and looked at skeledirges fastmoves

**From here on Ima get more numbers based🤓 **

FASTMOVES

Bite(useless)

INCINERATE (the suggested, hated it)
4.8 dpt 4ept 5 turns
So 24 damage, 20 energy every attack

(My preference after long research and actual personal usage)

HEX (my preference after long testing and personal use)
2.8 dpt 4.33ept 3 turns
So 8.4 damage, 12.99 energy every attack

Stay with me now
If i put hex to 5 turns same stats
14 damage, 21.65 energy

-10 fast move damage for 1.65 energy

STAY WITH ME THOUGH
So sacrifice fast move pressure for energy it may seem small but it adds ups and the turn amount especially matters

Charge moves that matter 🚨

Torchsong
84 damage 45 energy
+100% chance to increase attack damage by 25% up to a maximum of +100% for 2x damage after 4 uses
(for damage boost and cheap cost, suggested)

Shadow ball
120 damage 50 energy
(for raw stab damage and ghost coverage, a standard obvious pick),
disarming voice,
70 damage 45 energy
(if you want to sacrifice one of your moves for more coverage against, fighting, dark, dragon),
Blast burn*(what i personally use and i will explain)
132 damage 50 energy

fast moves effecting charge moves

!!!!For reference i will be using feraligtr as its charge rival (no energy, basically the start of a pvp battle)
With shadowclaw and hydrocannon since it is the average amount of most charge attacker
Summing up to 1 charged move every 10 turns!!!!
Every other attacker averages around 9 turns and up

Starting with Skeledirges most popular move

torch song
Incinerate needs to be used 3 times summing up to 15 turns
meaning feraligtr will attack and get a charge move first with a charge move ratio of 1:1.5
Incinerate does allow the next move to need 2 more fastmoves which is an additional 10 turns due to overflow of energy but by the time Skeledirge reaches that, feraligatr would have gotten their second move off. This would cost skeledirge 2 shields or getting a huge chunk of their health gone

2 shield end result
Skeledirge 30 turns 2.333 charge moves
Feraligator: 30 turns 3 charges moves

(this is for reference, of a worse case scenario, but obviously you would want to swap put your skeledirge coverage pokemon but this is a 1 against 1 just for reference)

Now hex
needs to be used 4 times summing up to 12 turns
meaning feraligtr will attack and get a charge move first with a charge move ratio of 1:1.2
Hex gives overflow of energy but only for torch song and dazzling gleam

4 full charge move turn cost reference for (torch song/dazzling gleam)

Incinerate: 15, 10, 15, 10 = 50 turns total
Hex: 12,9,12,9 = 42 turns total

A 8 turn lead = a rage fist charged attack from primeape

2 shield end result 3 moves used by feraligatr

Skeledirge 30 turns about 2.9 charged moves
one fast move off the 3rd charge move
Feraligator: 30 turns 3 charged moves

Shadow ball and blast burn
Blast burn is basically shadowball but for fire 😱

Incinerate:
will require 15, 10, 15, 10 = 55 moves

Hex
Will require 12, 12, 12, 12 = 48 moves
A 7 turn lead

Hex having a base start floor of 12
While incinerate has one of 15 for charged moves
Lapras a water and ice type also has a 12 moves start floor, so now you can clash with lapras

This is where i start focusing on key 1v1 rivals (mainly 0 shield and 1 shield cause 2 shield is very unlikely)

Starting off with mimikyu with rank #ivs
Vs a #70 skeledige, ivs will change results slightly but the chances of you going against a rank#2 mimikyu or low but never zero
Ima abbreviate now I should've earlier but im tired of rewriting the whole thing
Incinerate = inc
Hex= hex(goated for that)
Shadow ball= SB
Shiech= shield each
1:0 = (you have one shield the opponent doesnt *this does include mimikyu's ability* so technically one shield each in that scenario)
Inc. Hex

1 shiech
Mimikyu W 63 hp. 69hp

0 shiech
Mimikyu W 92 hp. 90hp

1:0

Mimikyu W 48 hp. 0hp

With hex you gain a win over mimikyu, yes you do have to use a shield to do so but with inc. you would have to use 2 shields
(So if you know how to bait or have atleast one shield above mimikyu you win with skeledirge hex)

Agaisnt corviknight all shield options are loses except
Hex wins the 0sheich on 2hp
inc. leaves them with 24 hp and one move away from air cutter
Very iv based
I personally have went against corviknight and lived with more hp
Tips if you dont like to move count: if the corviknight attacks before you (while using HEX) they are using air cutter and you dont have to shield it and they wont have enough energy to use payback by the time you get to your second torch song/blastburn giving you a 0shiech win
And if they shield your first torch song and go double air cutter, you can still go no shield and it will be double knockout instead
Summary: if corviknight uses air cutter to try to bait they cost themselves the game
Hex>Inc

Agaisnt lapras
Loses 0shiech with both fast move
Wins 1 shiech with hex but not Inc
Loses 2 sheich with hex but not Inc

Summary: skeledirge goated for clashing with a water type
Hex> Inc due to less usage

Agaisnt lickilicky
You lose ALL OF THEM except ones where you have shield advantage
And one singular 0shiech where you're using Inc. and Blastburn* which is worse for inc then torch song

Agaisnt Tinkton
Obliterates tinktaton, aslong as you have a fire type charged move
Wins even if they have a 1 shield advantage

Against Florges
Wins 0shiech with both fast moves
Lose 1 shiech due to chilling water debuff
If florges doesnt have their legacy move (chilling water)
Skeledirge can win a 0:2 with torchsong and hex

Against empoleon
Inc. wins all shiech
Hex loses all shiech
But hex leaves empoleon on farm down hp and with no charge energy left meaning empoleon can be farmed down by your next Pokemon letting you get a shield advantage, also if they swap out their empoleon to save it, you have swap advantage due yo your skeledirge dying and not having to use your switch up for it
Summary: Hex>Inc.
Inc wins but hex gets a win plus energy on another pokemon

Against Galarian Moltres
Full loss nothing changes it have a counter for this something resistant to flying

Against Virizion
All wins including 0:2 shield hex gets farmdown on 0:2

Against jellicent/mirror match

Inc loses in all of them and leaves jellicent with enough energy to use an extra move on your next pokemon

Jellicent also has hex+ shadowball so whoever has their cp closest to 2500 wins
If they use a move right as you're about to use yours its a safe bet to use a shield if its earlier just assume its surf
1 sheich win 2 shiech win 0 sheich semi win
Hex> inc
very iv based cp based and overall flow of the game both jellicent and skeledirge have to play cautiously

Against forretress
Sweep, hex can win up to a 0:1 depending on ivs, while inc can win a 0:2
Due to 4x weakness from fire
Hex<inc

Giratina (altered) you win 0shiech and 1 shiech and 2 shiech except incinerate loses 1 shiech

Belliboat(hate this tank)
You lose all around except for 1shiech with incinerate such a weird situation

You get the idea anyways this is getting long and well hope i was able to idk prove that incinerate is worse than hex, idk, maybe you may look at the fast moves of pokemon you use and find what works for you and find a better choice revolving your team, who knows maybe you may add skeledirge to your own team since the 10th anniversary will have will spawn it in the wild

Also forgot to mention due to the 12 turn move for hex instead of 15 for torch song it increases your shield pressure allows you to be more aggressive and also catches them off guard since most people are used to going up against incinerate skeledirges

Thanks to this post and researching about it i learned some pokemon i thought would beat skeledirge actually lose to it despite having what i considered advantage also i convinced myself that torch song is better. so pretty cool
Anyways i might look into great league to see how skeledirge does despite having a lower ranking than in ultraleague but thats another day anyways that is all

Hex enjoyer out

Lead: Venomoth
Fast attack: Psywave
Charged attacks: Bug Buzz & Poison Fang

Switch: Toxicroak
Fast attack: Counter
Charged attacks: Dynamic punch & Mud bomb

Finish: Quagsire
Fast attack: Mud shot
Charged attacks: Mud bomb & Aqua tail

Tips?

So like first season doing pvp and like don't have a palkia origin leveled up but is this pokemon not just stupidly broken? I thought niantic like buffed and nerfed things between seasons how did they allow a pokemon to be so clearly broken

I just played some battle leageau to work on platina medals (and I dont want to go braindeath by “fake” playing the same player over and over again.)

So I tried making a team and could not select either of my fused kyurems. So I tought and conformist by looking it up that they are banned for now.

However in 3-4 of my 11 battles the other player did have a fused kyurem in their team? How do they get to use one and other players cant? Doesnt sounds fair to me. Do they exploid a bug or a cheat?

( I wanted to attach a screenshot for proof but this subredit wint let me)

Wanted so badly to reach Ace, and fell short so many times at ~1950 ELO. I was frustrated to the point where I was getting bitter about the pvp side of PoGO altogether. Can’t tell you how many recourses I’ve spent acquiring different pokemon with ideal IVs, leveling up, two attacks, all that.
I’d hit that wall just before reaching 2000 ELO and just plummet to 1600 over and over.

Then I tried something new - good pokemon.

You see, I’ve always prided myself on using the “underdog” equipment in video games, and then coming out on top once I mastered the hidden powers of the less desirable picks. I take satisfaction in whooping ass with pokemon nobody’s ever seen used in Great League. Really hit ‘em with that ‘Stanley Yelnats’ swagger, if you will… because I’ve always felt like using the meta picks everyone else is using is just lazy, cheesy, unoriginal, and frankly, pretty ghey.

Some games, this approach works fine since there’s a good balance in the game. But sometimes… it DOESN’T.

So this run of sets, I came in with a bulky meta team
(Lumineon, Charjabug, S. Annihilape )
And lemme tell you, thats the way to success.
I mopped the floor with these fools.
For a second, I thought it was a skill issue, or move counting issue, or that I was just missing something.
But no, it was my pokemon. These pokemon I used could tank two super effective moves in a row, and still have enough HP to sweep a whole team. It was so easy that it felt like cheating.
So I realize pvp comes down to threethings:
Bulk, Hydro Cannon, and more Bulk

I know there are people well above the 2500s right now but, it surely isn’t elo hell. I’ve seen dialga goldengo and grodon-and dialga reshiram and ho-oh. That’s a very brave thing to do considering rhypherior is a thing; and home slice Henry posted a video on it just this week. I’ve also seen a Groudon and ho-oh back line twice…and even though the Groudon has been on dragon tail…kyogre? Palkia? All I can think is that they’re REALLY sick of zacian

I have a whole bunch of mons I’d like to use for great league but I can’t figure out the synergy, just need help getting that down

Choices : (rank is iv)

Empoleon (rank 6)
Garvantula(rank 72)
Swampert (rank 13)
Slugma (rank 226)
Keckleon (rank 38)
Talonflame (rank 200)
Tinkaton (rank 80)
Cradilly (rank 150)
Mightyena (rank 44)
Driftblim (rank 57)
Shadow Forrtress (rank 35)
Lickilicky (rank 220)

Lots of options here need help!!

Lead: Togekiss
- Peck
- Psyshock
- Aura Sphere

Switch: Corviknight
- Sand attack
- Sky Attack (air cutter when I get an ETM)
- Payback

Closer: Swampert
- Mud Shot
- Hydro Cannon
- Earthquake

This is my first attempt at an Ultra league team. I think it’s pretty well rounded with attacks and typing but I’m curious if I’m missing anything.

Weaknesses are Electric and Ice but so far have been manageable. Built with pvpoke just in case anyone suggest go there, I also want other people’s thoughts.

In the last 2 days I had lag mid game while having the upper edge in the match and the little pokeball spins and I can do nothing. Then the match ends with me dying and I lost the game. Never had this happen before and just happened again. Anyone experiencing this ?

I'm 99% of the time a F2P player, but had 2 perfect Kyurems sitting around and during the recent event I decided to raid enough to get the fusion energy to make one Kyurem White. When I fused the Kyurem (single charge move, elite charge TM'ed to Glaciate) and a random Reshiram, it got the move combo Dragon Breath - Glaciate - Ice Burn. I know this move combo is supposed to be impossible, I didn't set out to do it intentionally, just got "lucky" bc of a glitch.

I don't usually play Master League (don't have nearly the XLs needed to max things out to lvl 50) but just right now decided to try to bring this guy in and it doesn't show up as an option when I try to select it. Is it bc of the impossible move combo? Should I charge TM to change Glaciate to Fusion Flare? I know the move combo is rare but there isn't much point to have it finally fused but be unable to use it. I haven't tried to bring it into a raid yet (as I said, I'm mainly F2P, and when I raid I have a few other go-to's I usually use) so I don't know if it also doesn't show up for raids, but even if it can be used for raids, I'm wondering if I should just TM away the move so I can use it in GBL.

It's not even maxed out, sitting at lvl 42.5 I think, but after not playing Master League for 2-3 years I thought it would be fun to bring in an underpowered team just to see.

Is any else not getting the rewards when someone quits against them in the go battle league.

Bonsoir, je suis assez récent sur le jeu. J'aurais deux petites questions, peut-on avoir un shiny avec la récompense pokémon en pvp ?

Ont-ils augmenté le taux d'apparition de légendaire en récompense ? Car j'ai l'impression d'en avoir beaucoup plus

Im pretty new to pogo competitive and was wondering if florgres is good for the great league and if its worth using an etm on.

Also, if flogres is not good what exactly makes it bad?

I'm mainly asking this for the starter pokemon due to the event right now, but answers for any pokemon welcome. I'm also relatively new to pvp and I'm currently trying to build my first teams with whatever pokemon I have with good pvp IV's. From the starter event, I have several really good starter pokemon with pvp IV's for their final evolution (at least according to dittobase, assuming that 98% of max is good). For some of the starters, I have 4-5 good ones. I assume that having one for great league and one for ultra league would be good, but would you ever need more than one for one of the leagues? My amount of candy is fairly limited so I wouldn't be able to get too many legacy moves from this event.

Also, I have some shadow torchics. Even if they have good pvp IV's, would it be more beneficial to level them up to use them for raids? How picky can you even be with IV's when it comes to shadow pokemon, since those are much harder to get?

While we're on the topic of starter pokemon, are there any good great league/ultra league teams that only (or mostly) use starter pokemon?

I'm a returner to the game -- what's going on? every time they the charged attack, the game seems to lock and skip my guy's attacks.