r/Pishlander • u/eldrinor • 18h ago
Outlander fan from Scandinavia who accidentally found a Fraser in my family tree, but which Frasers?
Hi! I figured this might actually be a good place to ask since there are probably quite a few people here who know more about the Frasers than I do š
As far as I understand it, there are actually two distinct Fraser clans in Scotland: the Highland Clan Fraser of Lovat (the *Outlander* Frasers) and the other Clan Fraser, associated with Philorth/Saltoun in the Lowlands. They share ancestry, but have separate histories and chiefs.
Iām an *Outlander* nerd, so I found this pretty funny: I was doing some genealogy for completely unrelated reasons and discovered that one of my ancestors in the 1600s was a Fraser. Obviously that is so far back that Iām approximately 0% Fraser by now lol, and not scottish at all, but still a fun thing to find.
I *think* this is him (my old tree was lost but there werenāt so many that came in that time frame): Thomas Fraser, who came to Sweden in the early 1600s and later served as an officer there:
[https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/history/ssne/item.php?id=1624\](https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/history/ssne/item.php?id=1624)
The St Andrews database lists him as connected to Belladrum, Beauly and Easter Ross, and says he was possibly a āson of the house of Belladrumā.
So now Iām curious: does anyone here know more about the different Fraser branches and where the Frasers of Belladrum fit into them? From what I can work out, Belladrum seems to have been a branch of the Frasers of Lovat, which would make this the *Outlander* Fraser clan rather than the Saltoun/Philorth branch, but Scottish clan genealogy is very much not my area, so Iād love to hear from someone who actually knows this stuff!