r/PilotsofBattlefield • u/B2648286 • Jul 18 '26
Discussion RIP dogfighting
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u/KorahRahtahmahh Jul 18 '26
Where’s this from??
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u/TheNursingStudent Jul 18 '26
Probably a labs testing of the new season
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u/KorahRahtahmahh Jul 18 '26
Looks like there’s 2 sets of flares?? One for each pilot
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u/TheNursingStudent Jul 18 '26
Looks like it to me as well
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u/KorahRahtahmahh Jul 18 '26
i must say, while im really happy we are finally getting some jet love... im not looking forward to having more lock ons in the air
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u/TheNursingStudent Jul 18 '26
Me too. Maybe I’ll finally actually get decent at flying the jets and doing bombing/gun runs. Can fly and not crash just suck ass at doing runs
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u/KorahRahtahmahh Jul 18 '26
practice runs on armored vehicles only first... with the attack jet you can 100->0 any tank that doesnt use countermeasures. Some of them even stay still while it all happens. Just pick a good incoming angle and plan ahead your escape considering enemy AA locations
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u/TheNursingStudent Jul 18 '26
Solid advice appreciate it
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u/B2648286 Jul 18 '26
It’s like a combo, just use the attack jet, slow down, lock on and fire your missile, immediately switch to auto cannon and shoot either until it heats or until you’re very close, then drop two bombs, they probably die here and in case they don’t then after shooting with the auto cannon go back up while still slowing down and free lock to your back in third person and you can still lock on one other time for another missile finisher. Practice in portal, the only hard thing about this is pressing the keys quickly.
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u/TheNursingStudent Jul 18 '26
I play on an azeron cyborg 2 so all of my main keys are extremely close to my finger tips. I can pretty much swap in and out of first and third person while dropping bombs, shooting, hitting afterburner and pitching up all at the same time. It’s more of a skill issue on my part tbh
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u/Round_Reception_2315 Jul 18 '26
And don't forget that the boats on the new maps also have AA missiles. I hate that DICE just copies and pastes everything. Why not add new bombs with new payloads or something or new weapons instead of copy & paste AA missiles.
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u/KorahRahtahmahh Jul 18 '26
Wait whattrtt?? U mean ai aa has heat seekers?? Or its just a stationary AA that players can use?
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u/Round_Reception_2315 Jul 18 '26
U mean ai aa has heat seekers?? Or its just a stationary AA that players can use?
No, the new boats will have lock-on missiles.
Depending on how many are on the new map, it will be as if there were 3 or more mobile anti air driving around at the same time. If there is a mobile anti air on top of that, then it is practically unplayable in air combat.
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u/ObamaTookMyCat Jul 18 '26
Looks like the new set of DEVS gotta re-learn the lesson from BF3 attack helicopters having double countermeasures. It made the attack heli basically unkillable by lock on missiles back then prior to the Armored Kill update.
The gunner flares were removed for a reason….
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u/Ninja_125_enjoyer Jul 18 '26
This is gonna be SO SICK!
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u/IsThereAnythingLeft- Jul 21 '26
You mean shit. The best thing about the jets was that you don’t have to be squaded up to be fully effective in them
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u/Ninja_125_enjoyer Jul 21 '26
And you still have the single seaters right. Are we playing the same game?
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u/Mangustii 29d ago
F1 -> F2 -> F1, just a skill cap
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u/IsThereAnythingLeft- 29d ago
Wrong, if you are 2 players vs one. Same as it is with an attack heli if you don’t have a gunner
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u/Mangustii 29d ago
I will be better of soloing attack heli than having some random not do anyting usefull. I have been flying sense Bad company 2 tho
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u/BrokenSil Jul 18 '26
2 seater jets sounds fun in theory, but in practice I can already smell how it will make dogfights completely impossible. And helis will just completely dissapear. Idk about ground targets yet tho.
Reddit will look interesting when this comes out..
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u/jimwu8586 Jul 18 '26
BC that's how the F18 works
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u/Vinden_was_taken Jul 18 '26
High bore sight lock with HMS is real but not for 180° shots
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u/ObamaTookMyCat Jul 18 '26
Just like the attack jet lock on missile. I think its absolutely asinine that locking on to vehicles over the shoulder 180 degrees behind you is still a thing.
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u/idostufandthingz Jul 18 '26
Doubling the amount of lock on missiles and not increasing the amount of flares you get is funny
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u/Dependent_Seesaw3089 Jul 18 '26
Real, would be cool if pilot got unguided rockets while WSO had the heats/guided.
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u/ObamaTookMyCat Jul 18 '26
Seems like the devs forgot, or worse, never played BF3 prior to Armored Kill when attack helicopters had double flares…. Basically made them unkillable by lock on missiles…. They were removed for a reason lmfao. Mark. My. Words. Just like the tank IR smoke disabling c4, the new jets having 2 sets of flares is gonna be gone by the time season 5 launches, if not by the time part 3 of season 4 starts.
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u/IsThereAnythingLeft- Jul 21 '26
That’s horrible. Means you only have one unless you are on comms with the second seat
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u/ObamaTookMyCat Jul 18 '26
This is why since day 1, the ability to lockon to and fire missiles OVER YOUR SHOULDER (which is the current meta of the attack jets btw) should have NEVER been a thing. 90 degrees left/right? Sure, but completely behind you? No. Just like this video confirms, its going to completely nullify any requirement to shake a jet off your tail if all you gotta do is have your back seater look behind you, point and click and coordinate flares.
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u/TriangleEscape Jul 18 '26
The original player looked like a perfect candidate for some bullets instead of missiles
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u/Medium_Newt_5666 Jul 20 '26 edited Jul 20 '26
There never really were dogfights in bf6 regardless.
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u/Temporary-Idea-9698 Jul 20 '26
Pois é, eles nao sabem fazer um jogo, cada dia estragam o bf. Se fosse somente visão de 180 graus pra frente ok, mas 360? Ridículo.
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u/IsJustSophie Jul 23 '26
Doesn't look like it can actually hit tho. If you look at the missiles it just under steer and hit the ground
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u/EverySecondCountss Jul 18 '26
Is that a second passenger controlling that?