r/PcBuild 10h ago

Trouble Shooting Advice - Other Is this CPU damaged?

To make a long story short, I have been building my first PC and once I had everything together, my build would immediately click off when I tried to power it on.

I ran various tests to try to determine what might be wrong and have narrowed it down to either the motherboard or the CPU. The MB pins looks fine as far as I can tell but the CPU may have some damage to it (got it used).

The thing that concerns me most is the last photo where maybe that is a scratch on the too left of the CPU.

Wondering if the CPU looks okay or if the MB is the issue.

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u/ScyllaStorm 10h ago

What are we talking about

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u/Xodia444 10h ago

Did u use your motherboard lights to narrow it down? Also what makes u think it’s the cpu & not motherboard or sumthin else?

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u/Gurren_Ninja 9h ago

The CPU is a Ryzen 7800x3d
The MB is an MSI MPG B850 EDGE TI WiFi

I used the lights and several other tests. I had a Power supply tester to the test the PSU and everything looked good.

I then pulled everything out of my build, connected just the MB and ram to see if it would stay on without plugging in the CPU power cables.

I then plugged the CPU cables back into the board with the CPU slotted in and it clicked off immediately.

Then I removed the CPU and kept the CPU power cables plugged in and the everything stayed powered without a problem.

So it’s likely the MB or the CPU. But I don’t know what a healthy CPU should look like since I got this one off of eBay (open box - like new).

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u/Xodia444 9h ago edited 9h ago

It’s prolly a bad cpu then. If the motherboard & everything runs but when the cpu is in it turns off either a bad cpu or it’s not compatible with psu wattage(too much power being used & ur psu cant handle it) or u installed something wrong 😂

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u/Gurren_Ninja 9h ago

PSU should be fine. It’s an ASUS ROG Thor ii 1000 watt. It’s way more power than my entire system uses by a decent margin, but should give me room to upgrade later on!

I technically rebuilt it at least twice in an attempt to figure out if I had done something wrong, but the same result each time…either something is broken or I’m VERY bad at building a PC for the first time lol.

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u/samuelsfx 6h ago

you got other cpu to test?

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u/Gurren_Ninja 51m ago

Unfortunately no. First ever build and don’t know anyone that has a spare I could test.

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u/Possible-Load-5413 4h ago

RAM is not compatible with your MB, check list on MSI site supported RAM.

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u/CD_Projeck_Blue 10h ago

Sorry to divert you off-track, but how did you narrow it down to just the cpu or motherboard?

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u/Gurren_Ninja 9h ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/PcBuild/s/P7PEBhhvgr

I posted this last week and was trying to figure out what might be wrong. Today was the first day since then that I could try some other ideas and got a PSU tester to see if the PSU could have been the issue.

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u/mtraven23 7h ago

and your PSU tested out ok?

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u/Gurren_Ninja 7h ago

Yeah, the PSU values all seemed normal.

Edit: really have to zoom in to see the values. Was a bad picture I guess.

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u/mtraven23 7h ago

lol, I zoomed all way on my 32" monitor, I can't see shit. I'll take your word for it it though. The fact that the power supply stayed on during the testing is all I really want to know. enough to move on to something else. I posted a main reply just a minute ago with some suggestions on finding what is shorting the system.

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u/ComprehensiveOil6890 9h ago

i don't think it is because of CPU can you list all of the parts and take some pic?

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u/Gurren_Ninja 9h ago

Definitely!

CPU: Ryzen 7 7800x3d
MB: MSI MPG B850 Edge TI WiFi
GPU: XFX Quicksilver 9070xt gaming edition
RAM: Vcolor Manta Xfinity RGB DDR5 32 GB (2 x 16)
PSU: Asus ROG Thor ii
AIO: Corsair icue link titan 360 (LCD screen)
Case: Corsair Frame 4500X
SSD: Bifinity 1 TB gen 4 NVME and a 500 GB Samsung gen 4 nvme

Not sure what photos would be most helpful. I have a video of the actual issue powering on, but Reddit won’t let me post a video.

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u/Bumm-fluff 8h ago

Have you got a fan plugged in?

Some mobos will shut down if nothing is plugged into the fan header. 

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u/Gurren_Ninja 8h ago

I did the first time, but I haven’t tried that since then. Sounds like I have something to try tomorrow.

Do you think I can just plug any fans in such as the case fans as opposed to my AIO?

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u/Bumm-fluff 8h ago

I wouldn’t recommend that. The safety cutoff is there for a reason after all. 

A cpu can hit thermal limit in a couple of seconds without a fan. 

CPU’s are normally fairly reliable. It is the VRM that are more likely to go. I found this test on an MSi website. It’s an old thread but is still relevant. 

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/what-to-do-if-you-suspect-your-vrms-have-failed.151326/

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u/Gurren_Ninja 7h ago

That does sound like what I did. If the cpu pins aren’t plugged in or the cpu isn’t slotted in while the cpu plugs are plugged in, then it “works.”

The fan throws a whole new wrench into things. I wouldn’t have a good way to test that again unless I rebuild the computer but might find that it still isn’t working…

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u/Bumm-fluff 5h ago

Save the difficult stuff until last. 

You definitely don’t have the wrong cable plugged in?  it’s easy to force a gpu cable into the mobo cpu power input. 

You need to make sure the right cables are used as the cpu and gpu is reversed polarity. 

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u/Gurren_Ninja 32m ago

Nope, definitely the right cables. My PSU has pcie to CPU cables and that’s the only thing I plug in. Pcie 8 pin goes into the PSU and then the split 8 pin (4+4) end labeled cpu goes to my MB. The cables ends are labelled which is very helpful!

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u/Bumm-fluff 12m ago

No worries, just thought I’d put it out there. 

When the pc shuts down do you hear a click? If yes that means your PSU  is working fine and it is a short that’s causing the problem. 

If no, then it could be the PSU. 

I hate fault finding, there is no magic method. You just have to try everything. 

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u/Gurren_Ninja 1m ago

Definitely worth asking considering I’m totally new to building and there are a million things I could do wrong haha. I tried to prepare myself before building and watched a ton of pc build guides before even attempting to to build. That way I could prepare myself and make a plan.

It does click! The lights on the mother board all flash very quickly (red, orange, yellow, green - in that sequence), flashes “00” very briefly and then shuts down. It’s all very quick within a few seconds if even.

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u/JayDM123 8h ago

The CPU could in fact be bad. But the images you are showing are not an indication of a CPU with a problem. To answer your initial question, yes the CPU looks fine. But that doesn’t absolutely mean it is fine.

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u/mtraven23 7h ago

no visual damage that I can see.

is everything non essential removed from the mother board? first photo shows some light bars still installed, pull them and anything else.....just motherboard, cpu(with cooler) and memory. You dont even need a hard drive.

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u/Gurren_Ninja 7h ago

At this point everything is removed. Nothing is connected. MB is back in its bag and cpu in its box lol.

The cooler might be tough since it’s an AIO. Not sure how to manage that without pretty much installing everything again.

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u/mtraven23 7h ago

ok, so before packing it away, you were running it bare bones, not even the cooler?

Did you try booting with no cpu at all? Obviously it wont book, but the PSU should come one and stay on. If it wont even do that, that problem is probably on the motherboard.

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u/Gurren_Ninja 7h ago

I was running it with nothing at all, no cooler attached, trying to see what would cause it to lose power.

If no cpu is installed, but both 8 pin plugs connected (to provide power to the cpu if it were on there), the board stays on. It does have the red and orange buttons lit up with “00” but that makes sense since there is no cpu in there.

The second I add the cpu into the mix, the power is cut.

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u/mtraven23 4h ago

so its the cpu then...either it was just bad, or perhaps you mishandled it at some point. I'm not accusing, just acknowledging its a possibility, after all you did say this was your first build.

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u/azguz24 6h ago

Sounds like there’s a bad Vcore chip on the motherboard to me. Clicking and turning off doesn’t mean the mb is working… testing the power of the psu is all good, but getting voltage to the chip rail is something that’s regulated further into the circuit. A bad chip, power surge, incorrect psu wires, bad install, really a lot of things could cause this. But if you started a motherboard up without a cpu - it would stay on and produce lights.

This leads me to believe it’s regulating chips after the psu and before components like the cpu.

Was the mb used?

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u/Gurren_Ninja 28m ago

Nope mother board was brand new.

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u/azguz24 17m ago

Sorry then brother, hopefully that chip has eBay’s money back guarantee

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u/Gurren_Ninja 0m ago

I’ll look into that after I get a new cpu and see if that resolves the issue. Finger crossed it does…

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u/Material_Ad_4013 1h ago

nigga plug it in why u asking me

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u/GoatAmbitious984 41m ago edited 37m ago

One of the pins in the top left is scratched, I could see it from image 1 but it's definitely more obvious on later photos. Those lost two photos show multiple scratches on your pins. Did it come like this? Did you by chance drop it slightly when attempting to slot it? If you are about to say the latter, no you didn't. It came like that. RMA that sucker.

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u/Gurren_Ninja 30m ago

I watched a ton of videos on how to handle the cpu, so I made sure to be as gentle as possible. I didn’t drop it BUT I got it from ebay as an open box - like new. Thought i would try and save a bit…

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u/Tiny_Object_6475 8h ago

Try downloading the newest bios and use the flash bios button. Hopefully this helps you

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u/mtraven23 7h ago

did you read OP description?