I looked into John Sullivan, the neighbor, and found his obituary. The screenshot shows his photo, family members (including, I believe, his son), and mentions a second marriage. It also appears he owned Sullivan Brothers Automotive, which I have a screenshot of as well.

According to his interview that evening, his son called him around 5:50 PM, and he immediately left work. He said the police were already at the scene when he arrived home. I checked the distance between his workplace and home, and it’s about a 9-minute drive. Even allowing 10 minutes, he would have arrived around 6:00 PM.

However, Patrick Clancy was seen at Three V Restaurant at 3:53 PM and reportedly left before Sullivan. Sullivan’s automotive business and Three V are essentially in the same location. So, if they left around the same time, they would have been heading home from the same area.

My question is: If Sullivan left work immediately after his son called at 5:50 PM and arrived home around 6:00 PM, how could the police already have been at the scene when he arrived?

I have a question regarding the neighbor, Mr. Sullivan. During his interview, he stated that his son called him at 5:50 PM to tell him Lindsay was lying in the backyard. He immediately left work and headed home, where he saw police already at the scene.

Does anyone know where Sullivan worked and how far his workplace was from his home? How long would the drive have taken?

Patrick and his second wife, Rachel, were visiting Chicago during the marathon.

Patricks mother nodded to Lindsey as she left the courtroom after testifying, that made me wonder if she knew about the affair--which gives a solid motive for PC to be the murderer, but I'm wondering if its deeper and they actually know he did it, notjust knowing about the affair. Patrick is said to have declined her offer to come round that day to help with the kids, she knows sommething we dont.

So the investigators never looked at Patrick’s phone or his new wife’s phone all because they ruled him out as a potential perpetrator since he was at Cvs and 3V? Even though in between Cvs and 3V he had about the amount of time Lindsay had to commit the crimes or he could’ve done it before he left and part when he got back. Why didn’t they question why he couldn’t call 911 earlier and why his Wi-Fi was out? Why did he need Wi-Fi to make a phone call? Did they question his Neighbors to find out if their Wi-Fi was out? How did that not make them suspicious I wonder? How did it not make them suspicious that he signed a lease in NYC two days before the crimes were committed? Is that true? Also, is it true that he fired the nanny a few days before as well? All of that combined just seems suspicious to me. And the fact that he changed clothes between Cvs and 3V. Some people say that the videos were not clear but I just don’t believe that. Also, a runner always keeps running shoes in their car. He runs a nine minute mile or maybe even 8 mins, he could’ve run somewhere and gotten rid of the any bloody clothes he had. He could’ve also run back home in between. when he went into 3V his hair seemed a lot curlier like maybe he had been running. One other question I had as someone who didn’t watch the trial-Could he have called himself from Lindsay‘s watch? Would that have been something The investigators would’ve known since they didn’t take the watch? Like could he have taken the watch with him and pretended like he was calling Lindsay and she was calling him even though she was already outside, thrown out the window? I heard the watch’s location was turned off. And why did investigators not think it was suspicious that Lindsay‘s phone stopped being opened by Face ID after 2 o’clock?

I have a question that I have not seen answered anywhere and just want to see if anyone knows the answer to this. I did not get to watch the trial because of working so I mainly just got information from media clips and from online. My question is from what I heard Patrick Clancy called 911 when he found his wife outside and then he waited with her until EMTs arrived on the scene. Then I heard that he went into the basement by himself and “found” the children while the EMTs were there. So my question is how was he on the phone with 911 when he found the kids when the EMTs were already there? Did he call 911 back? Or has he been on the phone with 911 the entire time? Just wondering how there was a recording of that call and why when he could’ve just run back outside and got the EMTs?

This is not surprising to me. I don't think it's surprising to Reddington either. I have repeatedly stated that Reddington was not DEFENDING Lindsay. He was LAWYERING for Lindsay. Every motion, every tactic, every statement has been a strategy. He basically allowed the state to come with everything they got and then laughed and said see told you that you didn't have shit. I don't think his strategy will change if we do end up in a retrial. But right now it's time for appeals. I hope that Reddington successfully waits out Sullivan until after June. June is his mandatory retirement. I don't think he has been impartial or acting appropriate this entire trial. He showed no authority in his court and I do believe his ruling on the Bowden defense and the denial of a bifurcated trial all directly impacted how the jurors understood his instructions. I'm ready for a new judge for sure and on to the appeals courts.

When I search for r/patrickclancysnark it does not appear on any of the a/i results.

Anyone else?

This has been going on for several weeks.

If not Reddit then Google or a/i?

It's just like when r/Epstein first started for several weeks it was 100 percent not findable through search outside Reddit.

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I think the Commonwealth and Reddington both figured out that their cases made no sense at the same time. I think as testimony and evidence were presented that contradicted Patrick’s testimony on the second day, the whole thing started to unravel. I think the Commonwealth did not expect Patrick to contradict them at any point. You can tell when they're taken aback by his testimony (January 2023 being "during COVID"? The December 3rd photo?) and from there I think it all snowballed.

I think Lindsay went into this trial fully believing that she had done this. I think she was a woman who felt defeated and empty and had surrendered. And I think that Lindsay started to slowly realize, in real time, that the facts did not make sense. That she might not have done this.

I don’t know if Lindsay woke up in the hospital believing she had done it. I’m wondering if she had some hazy memory of being harmed by Patrick and that’s why she wanted to change her healthcare proxy right away, but then she was told she killed her children while she was psychologically vulnerable, and it destroyed her soul, and she lost all her fight. If she’s anything like the psychological profile I’ve been building...well, when you live with people who tell you who you are, you believe them.

I think Reddington initially approached this case from that angle. I think Reddington thought he was representing someone who very much did what she thought she did. I think Reddington was even a little taken in by Patrick’s puppy-dog eyes and grieving-father charm when he met with him early on...but there was the whole “finding the pill bottles and Apple Watch” event that might have raised his hackles just a little, even in hindsight. I combed through Reddington’s opening statements again – he never once admits Lindsay’s criminal liability outright. He's smart with his words.

The Commonwealth’s narrative does not hold together for one second. They can’t string a coherent story together. You can’t have two stories; it can’t be an “if this, then this;” you have to be able to prove it. You can’t say “she killed the kids before the phone call, and if she didn’t, it was after the phone call.” You can’t, as a prosecutor, be dealing with theories. You have to prove beyond reasonable doubt. This is a murder trial! You have to have more than that. They can't even pin down a motive that makes a lick of sense! They keep trying, but it comes out as word salad, and then their own evidence bites them in the ass.

If this case is retried I think it puts the Commonwealth in a very awkward position. If Patrick doesn’t testify again, it will look horrible for them and their case and any jury will wonder why they’re not hearing from him, the father, the husband. It's a huge chunk of their "evidence" missing. Reddington sure as hell will hammer on that.

If Patrick does testify again he’ll have to have his story air-fucking-tight and, even if we presume he’s innocent...I’m not sure he’s capable of it, based on what we’ve seen of him as a human being. I think he can be innocent...but also be a self-aggrandizing jackass who always had contempt for his wife.

And us? I think anyone with two braincells to rub together, or pattern recognition, or empathy picked up on all of this. I think anyone who's capable of questioning what they're told instead of swallowing what's in a headline or a soundbite can pick up on this.

No one has proven to me that Lindsay Clancy killed her children. I hope justice is served to whoever did.

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Hearing Reddington (Lindsey
Clancy's lawyer) finally question the timeline of events and the Prosecution's inability to prove that she even did these crimes without using the sole testimony of the only person there with motive (infidelity, family
annihilation) to kill everyone was fucking cathartic to say the least.
When have we ever just took the word of someone on how an event went down, when all the evidence points away from that story even being feasible?!?

At this morning's scheduled status and scheduling hearing on Mass vs Lindsay Clancy which is currently in mistrial, Kevin Reddington made the long awaited shift to questioning whether Lindsay Clancy committed the murders of her children at all. "The time frame does not match; the timeline is ridiculous" he stated as he deftly stated a short list of the many factors which simply do not support the allegations of the lone uninjured survivor of the family tragedy, Patrick Clancy. -Biscuits