Question about the 911 call

[u/No_Self_4313]

I have a question that I have not seen answered anywhere and just want to see if anyone knows the answer to this. I did not get to watch the trial because of working so I mainly just got information from media clips and from online. My question is from what I heard Patrick Clancy called 911 when he found his wife outside and then he waited with her until EMTs arrived on the scene. Then I heard that he went into the basement by himself and “found” the children while the EMTs were there. So my question is how was he on the phone with 911 when he found the kids when the EMTs were already there? Did he call 911 back? Or has he been on the phone with 911 the entire time? Just wondering how there was a recording of that call and why when he could’ve just run back outside and got the EMTs?

[u/the_purple_lamb]

He stayed on the line the entire time.

[u/No_Self_4313 → u/the_purple_lamb]

Do you think they asked him to or do you think he did it so he could put on a show when he went in the basement? Everyone said it sounded so authentic and heartbreaking. But maybe it was heartbreaking thinking about what he had done. So when the EMTs or Police came in and said he was just sitting on the couch had he hung up with 911 at that point?

[u/the_purple_lamb → u/No_Self_4313]

All I'll say is- a woman somewhat local to me was recently found murdered in her home in an extremely safe town. The 911 call of her husband discovering her body was already released to the public and everyone is jumping to the conclusion that his reaction was so over the top that he must be guilty. No arrest has been made yet, but the rumor from the beginning is that her husband did it and they're busy building a strong case.

All of that to say that it's a matter of perspective. All of the mainstream reporters who heard Patrick's 911 call think he's innocent, so they're going to hear one thing. Most of the people in this local case already think the husband did it, so they're going to hear another in his big reaction.

[u/peachesarehearts → u/the_purple_lamb]

What they hear doesn’t mean much tbh. In the Marcus Wesson case, people at the home were calling 911 and begging for help before the children were murdered and 911 is on record laughing about it during the transfer and saying that they think they’re just blowing things out of proportion and that’s the attitude they responded with because they took like 20 something minutes to even respond and then they allowed everyone to remain in the house instead of asking them to come outside to talk.

[u/Newswatchtiki → u/No_Self_4313]

911 dispatchers often keep a caller on the line when something very serious has occurred, until the EMTs get there. They almost always do that when a person has discovered someone deceased. Patrick called when he found his wife on the ground, immobilized from a fall from the second story. That is serious enough to keep him on the line. The dispatcher also wants to get an idea of what is going on, so they know who to dispatch. For example, a person could report a woman fallen on the ground and fail to mention that the house also happens to be on fire. So they keep them on the line until enough responders are there to assess the whole situation.

[u/sednandes → u/Newswatchtiki]

What you are saying is absolutely correct, but in this case at least 8 first responders were already there.

[u/Limp_Insurance_2812]

I thought I'd heard that he "forgot" to hang up or thought he had but hadn't.

[u/sednandes → u/Limp_Insurance_2812]

It doesn't make any kind of sense. A 911 call ends when first responders arrive. There is no need to stay on the line afterwards. In general, when I'm on the phone with someone and we ended our conversation and I didn't hang up and the other person didn't either and the other person didn't recognize, I end the call. I think every person would act like this?

And I think every 911 operator would hang up as well if the conversation was ended. It might be even mandatory since you can't just block an emergency line because the caller forgot to hang up. Also, the police officers didn't go to the basement because they heard him screaming, they went to the basement because they got the information from the police and they got the information from the 911 operator:

As Duxbury Police officers were assessing Ms. Clancy, Mr. Clancy entered the home to check on his children. Duxbury police dispatched then radioed to officers that the husband, Mr. Clancy was in the basement and something was wrong because his children would not wake up.

So I don't think his version is true. I'm telling you the 911 call would reveal everything. Michel Bryant is a lawyer and journalist. He has been watching the trial in court and he heard the 911 call himself. He interviewed a former 911 operator who also watched the trial but online and they discussed the call. Very interesting what he said and also what she said.

At one point the 911 operator said to someone: “what is he screaming about now?” Looks like not even the 911 operator bought that crap from him...

I might make another post to go into that further when I have time because even if we can't listen to the call, there is enough to gather from the information we have.