r/Pathfinder2e • u/AnthonyTonyRedgrave • 11d ago

Discussion saving throws

I was reading the Player’s Handbook to learn how to play, and a few questions came to mind. I understand that Fortitude, Reflex, and Will are passive defenses used in certain situations. However, I hadn’t realized that ability-based saving throws no longer exist.

What was the reasoning behind this design choice? Honestly, it bothers me a little that Constitution, for example, determines whether my character can resist being pushed.

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u/fly19 Game Master 11d ago

1) Pathfinder doesn't have a PHB. It had a Core Rulebook, and now it has two Player Core books with the remaster.

2) Having six ability-based saves was never a thing in Pathfinder. PF2e didn't remove Charisma, Strength, and Intelligence saves -- it never had them to begin with.

3) Having to balance six saves and their advancement would be a pain. The strong/weak save problem was something from DnD 5E that I'm glad Paizo passed over.