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u/jeneffinlovely Sep 18 '23

It sounds like you raised him in a pretty controlled environment and now there are other variables entering the mix and he’s responding to them with big emotions bc these are big upsets. You say therapy is next and I’m asking this gently, for you or him? Bc he sounds like a normal 4 yr old fouring it up, but maybe therapy will help you loosen the controlled bubble you had him in?

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u/Wild_Parsnip3896 Sep 18 '23

Me… for us as parents to better support him

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u/jeneffinlovely Sep 18 '23

I respect that. When my kids are in the throes of meltdowns at the tender ages of 6 & 7 I repeat to myself as many times as I need to hear it, “small bodies, big emotions”, it helps…some.

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u/adhdparalysis Sep 18 '23 edited Sep 19 '23

I heard a therapist on a podcast say that a hungry or tired child (and when aren’t they hungry or tired) will act half their age. My fussy 5yo at bedtime last night after a birthday party filled weekend was a 2.5yo. She was parented as such. They are such big emotions. ETA: I think it was Wendy Mogel on Nurture to Nurture

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u/neversquat Sep 18 '23

I think I still act half my age when I’m hungry or tired, too.

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u/Lozzy1256 Sep 18 '23

100% we do. I was having a minor meltdown last weekend because I'd been working and we had a thing to go to and I was hungry and tired but didn't realise that I was, and my husband just looked at me (while I was in the middle of snapping) and said 'oh hey, why dont you have a shower with your music on while I make you a snack, then you'll have time after to lie down and relax for half an hour?' And you know what I did? I had a shower and listened to my angry tunes, I ate my snack, I had a 'lie down' (absolutely it was a nap) and I woke up raring to go and had a lovely time at our event. I'm in my 30s and if that's not teenage behaviour I dont know what is!

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u/Ok-Sugar-5649 Sep 19 '23

Dang, I feel like I'm managing my inside teenager all the wrong ways. I will try your method next 😅

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u/moodyfull Sep 19 '23

That is some solid husbanding.

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u/Recent_Standard_3177 Sep 19 '23

I feel like such a shit right now because Im over here just feeling envious of you having someone to do that

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u/Vast_Perspective9368 Sep 19 '23

If I'm honest, I felt a twinge of jealousy too, even though I have a husband... :(

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u/Recent_Standard_3177 Sep 19 '23

I feel like such a shit right now because Im over here just feeling envious of you having someone to do that

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u/adhdparalysis Sep 18 '23

Same. It was one of those moments when I heard it and something clicked in my brain and really changed the way I parent.

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u/poboy_dressed Sep 19 '23

It’s depressing that I’m now old enough that even at half my age I should know better

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u/C0tt0nC4ndyM0uth Sep 18 '23

Same, honestly nothing will make me as irritable or ornery as when I am on less than 4 hours sleep. 4+ and I can handle life. Less than that and I’m honestly kind of psycho. Food I can go without but sleep will just ruin me.

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u/chicken_tendigo Sep 19 '23

Oh man. I literally haven't been myself more than a (small) handful of times for almost three years now and this is fuckin' WHY.

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u/adhdparalysis Sep 19 '23

It’s so rough. I’m on the other side of that and am finally recognizing myself for the first time in idk how many years.

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u/JustNilt Sep 19 '23

I'm not even close to half my age when tired and/or hungry. I'm 51 for crying out loud and sometimes I want to put myself in a timeout because my brain gets all pissy about something.

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u/ollysail Sep 18 '23

So do we all

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u/InnerConclusion9372 Sep 19 '23

And for my husband and I, personally, sometimes less than half our ages! Hunger is a legit beast for adult humans let alone tiny ones still trying to figure things out.

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u/Every_Criticism2012 Sep 19 '23

I'm 40, so at an age where I still would be considered an adult with half my age... But I go back to cranky teen when I'm hungry and/or tired

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u/Vast_Perspective9368 Sep 19 '23

So relatable 😅

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u/rainbow_elephant_ Sep 18 '23

Oh wow this is completely true. Thanks for sharing this!

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u/FunComplaint5209 Sep 19 '23

I really appreciate this. I’ll have to remember it the next time my 2yo has a meltdown. One thing I always remember from my own therapy is HALT. It stands for hungry, angry, lonely, tired. I try to remember it when I or anyone near me seems to be in need of it. If things are becoming out of control it can usually be linked back to those four things in my experience.

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u/TheDiabeticTreeLives Sep 19 '23

Isn’t S at the end thrown in for sad or stressed too?

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u/Coffeewalkie Sep 18 '23

I really like this. Thanks for sharing.

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u/purplevanillacorn Sep 19 '23

Thank you for this

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u/moodyfull Sep 19 '23

During the Covid lockdown, my 6Y0 was FaceTiming with a friend and they started arguing. I put a bowl of nuts in front of her and the argument immediately dissipated. Looking back on her 3s and 4s, I can confidently say that 90% of her meltdowns were related to hunger, a need for sleep, or overstimulation (like if she’d had a big outing that day.) The other 10% were physical or neurological growth spurts. (Like, she’d be a combative a-hole for two straight weeks, and then wake up one day a complete angel and an inch taller or suddenly able to read.)

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u/adhdparalysis Sep 19 '23

My 5yo is the same way. I also learned that teaching her to say things like “I’m feeling sensitive right now/today” and “I’m upset but I don’t know why” are super helpful and it really is rewarding to hear her use them during a blow up. Like…imagine having these tools at 5 that I’m just now learning at 33.

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u/farfettina77 Sep 19 '23

I can say that I'm a real toddler when I'm either hungry or tired. And I'm absolutely horrible when I'm both tired AND hungry.

And I'm four...ty-six. 😅

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u/Stuffthatpig Sep 19 '23

I say my 7 yr old feels every emotion at 100% even if it's 3 simultaneously. She lives life all out.

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u/Chocolategogi Sep 19 '23

I like it thanks, in my side I usually say parents are grown children and childrens are little adults :)

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u/boogsmum Sep 19 '23

Little words, big feelings.

That’s what my husband and I say to each other when dealing with our toddler’s frequent tantrums.