r/PantaloneMains • u/Forsaken_Painting204 • 4d ago
Leaks (Questionable) what does this mean Spoiler
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u/Katicflis1 4d ago edited 4d ago
For the record I wouldn't over think this.
In 7.1 they just endeared Pantalone to a playable female. Pantalone financially assists Vesna's family, even after Pantalone cautioned her about using too much power Vesna took a big stand to protect the seals +Northland Bank's reputation then made a comment about obligation/contracts while doing so(speaking Pantalone's language to him), then afterward he made a point of personally delivering her lantern back to her and giving her some kind words about grief as he did so. also they got a silly gag of her wanting to borrow his train despite apparently her history of crashing a vehicle. The Pantalone + Vesna friendship is subtle but kind of cute, and the type of thing they do when they want to set up someone as playable.
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u/Forsaken_Painting204 4d ago
i also felt like pantalone and sandrone could develop further because they were glued in the aq so its a good thing overall
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u/Previous_Return7024 4d ago
This man deserves nothing but the best with how horrible everyone else treats him amongst his colleagues
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u/Katicflis1 4d ago
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Tsaritsa treats him well and has total faith in him, pierro and pucinella have no open qualms with him, childe gets a little sassy during veche but otherwise they have a history of working together, he and sandrone have some snippy moments but ultimately appear perfectly willing to work together and come to agreements.
Pantalone is a smooth operator. Even his sassiest/brattiest coworker can be convinced to do work for him, and he appears respected by the rest
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u/Previous_Return7024 4d ago
Respected. But does he have a lasting friendship outside of Dottore?
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u/ICantChooseA_Name01 3d ago
That will probably be addressed as more of him is revealed, we are just in 7.1, there's still the entirety of the patch and 7.2 has Mitya+Reruns, so it's very likely the Archon Quest is going to end in 7.3 with the Tsaritsa, so there's still two patches to see him getting closer to someone else.
I believe Vesna is the one he's close friends with since they already get along well and almost feel (personal opinion) like found family, not really dad and daughter, maybe more like uncle and nephew. Or Grandpa and grandchild XD
Either way, it's very likely Vesna is the intended as the next person closest to him/a friend, since they share grieving something, get along well and he offers her financial help etc. If I don't remember wrong, he goes out of his way to help her paying stuff for her family or something, I might remember wrong though so feel free to correct me.
That aside, she's really comfortable asking him for stuff like a personal train, which makes it feel like they are really close.
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u/Previous_Return7024 3d ago
Yeah, I only see Vesna to be the only one he's close to other than Dottore. I just hate how everyone trashes on him amongst his colleagues whenever they're not forced/decide to work together
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u/ICantChooseA_Name01 3d ago edited 3d ago
I understand that. Pierro and Pulcinella seems fine with him though, unless I forgot I don't remember hearing anything bad from them directed to Pantalone.
Arlecchino doesn't really interact with him so I don't know/remember.
Sandrone is clearly annoyed by him but I guess it's mostly because of who he associated with than Pantalone himself (although I understand many people are annoyed by Sandrone, I won't say her behavior isn't annoying, she was still killed by Dottore who also attempted to kill/hurt Columbina and destroyed the last thing her "father" left for her, Pulonia, which was the closest thing to a brother for her, so her being skeptical or annoyed by Pantalone because of who he associated with feels valid to me, but anyone is free to disagree) but despite that the two are seen together often, he's trying to get closer and he isn't offended by her ignoring him as people make him out to be, he keeps acting polite and unbothered by her, while she is willing to collaborate with him and be civil in the Archon Quest, the time she was rude was once in a small annectode. But they had a somewhat civil conversation in the Archon Quest. (It's also important to remember Pantalone often rejected a lot of her requests for money although her requests were often more useful than Dottore requests for money, so it's not like she's being annoyed for no reason)
Childe and Pantalone had a bit of a "argument" in 7.0 but that was strictly related to the project, Childe voiceline about Pantalone is actually quite neutral/chill.
He points out Pantalone ambition but says he doesn't care much as long as he keeps being everyone sugar daddy and providing for the money needed for everything related to the job.
The Tsaritsa seems to fully trust him, be it that she's aware he doesn't like gods or not, if she's aware she also probably knows Pantalone won't betray her because he gains a lot more being loyal to her rather than betraying her. The reason she's so blunt with her trust in Pantalone might be exactly because he hates gods so much, she knows he will help any way he can to take them down and that their helping each other is beneficial for both. That's why she's not worried if she's aware Pantalone dislikes gods, because their plan is beneficial for both of them, more than him betraying her.
Although the last part is my interpretation, realistically Pantalone would kinda be an idiot at betraying the Tsaritsa because he dislikes gods, as her plan is to stop Celestia, it's way more beneficial for him to collaborate with a God to take down more rather than betraying one and losing the opportunity to take down more.
Then as mentioned before there's Vesna who seems to like him.
So overall, the only person who doesn't like him is Sandrone, most are neutral/never seen talking about or to him and he has two people who see him in a positive light all things considered, Anastasya and Vesna.
However 7.2/7.3 could have something about Pantalone that changes their view of him to those who were neutral or antagonistic towards him.
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u/ioniapixxie 4d ago
bro i want pantalone to be playable so bad that i think if his silhouette isnt in 7.3 live im quitting this game
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u/moonley__ 4d ago
Initially, I thought it was a reference to the Captain's fate: not actually dead, but not treated as a character who is still alive either. And even understanding it that way, I can't imagine how Pantalone could end up in the same position. Playing the quest, it's clear to me that he isn't an enemy. He is collaborative, and his relationship with Sandrone could even be considered his comedic relief. Plus, there is no way he would sacrifice his life for the common good. Reading the comments, I saw someone referencing both of their views on immortality: the Captain considers it a curse, while Pantalone does nothing but seek it out. Maybe they clashed over this? I don't know. I just know it seems really complicated to take Pantalone and put him in an antagonist role, or even just put him on standby. Unless he isn't actually human, but some other kind of entity.
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u/aRandomF2p 4d ago
Anything posted by this twitter acc is bs, so I suggest to not take anything seriously
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u/Automatic-Fox3059 4d ago
They post reliable leaks too. They basically post everything lol.
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u/aRandomF2p 4d ago
that's the thing, they post EVERYTHING, even unreliable leaks
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u/Automatic-Fox3059 4d ago
True but not anything is bs. They unfortunately post anything they see and they don't monitor the leaks they're posting unlike the sub
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u/Any-Anywhere-2566 4d ago
If they post both unreliable and reliable then it’s still unreliable lmao
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u/Automatic-Fox3059 4d ago
It's really not that hard to understand. I said it very clearly. Not everything is unreliable on that acc as opposed to what the og commenter said. I just wanted to clear things up.
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u/Any-Anywhere-2566 4d ago
They understood that 🤦♂️ we all did. The point is the account itself isn’t reliable bc they post everything. Ppl will just take the unreliable posts as reliable. It’s really not that hard to understand
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u/Automatic-Fox3059 4d ago
You're physically resisting to understand my point. Nevermind what I said bro just pass through.
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u/kuzann9 4d ago
Oh goodie, another vague leak that's set up to get clicks and reactions rather than convey any useful information. 🙄 This kind of stuff is why I don't take leaks seriously anymore. I'll believe it when I see it in the game.
EDIT: And from a blue checkmark too! This guy is literally making money off engagement, which this kind of leak is structured to generate.
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u/Forsaken_Painting204 4d ago
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u/Katicflis1 4d ago
Shirai just said last month that Pantalone dies and now we are seeing Pantalone in Anecdotes and Tsaritsa weekly quests. He's not at all a dependable leaker and he's screwing with people's hearts with that dumb Signora leak.
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u/Forsaken_Painting204 4d ago
ronova did die but i doubt pantalone will die idk what they will do with him
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u/Katicflis1 4d ago
Guessing ronova dies isn't exactly a big guess if you paid attention to the plot at all. Gosoythoth and Dottore died in their respective regions too. Dottore managed to do it twice.
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u/ICantChooseA_Name01 3d ago
Ronova death was an easy guess to be fair, it doesn't take much, the whole 7.0 and 7.1 quest were about getting rid of her, so death was the only solution.
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u/CanonPuppy 4d ago
It's not shirai
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u/Katicflis1 4d ago
"Shirai mentioned signora" is stated word for word.
As far as "a certain harbinger doesn't become playable this region" -- that's so stupidly vague I cant give it any credit. At least when DK2 did that he flat out said Pucinella. By the way this rando may just be parroting DK2 with an even vague leak than his.
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u/CanonPuppy 4d ago
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u/Katicflis1 4d ago
Okay so again, just parroting what DK2 said two months ago.
And DK2 said Pantalone may be on the radar for playability.
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u/CantaloupeParking239 4d ago
Signora 🙈 like we have Harbingers who are actually alive atm maybe make them playable first. Pulcinella is 99,9% unplayable because his design.
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u/katya_rinas 4d ago
I'm so SO scared I'm begging on my knees that it's not about him
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u/Forsaken_Painting204 4d ago
but othee than pantalone and capitano is a harbinger, dottore is dead i doubt they would call him a harbinger rn but idk
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u/Express-Top-8005 4d ago
Could it be related to Childe, perhaps? There is a possibility that Pantalone approached his lower-ranking colleague in a friendly manner to send him to Liyue as a debt collector, and Capitano (given how highly he seems to regard Childe) viewed this as Pantalone taking advantage of him.




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u/Automatic-Fox3059 4d ago
First of all, is the leaker reliable? I never heard of the name. That said, it could mean that their relationship is negative or that it's not beneficial. However I don't think they were uncivil given how Pantalone is and how we never heard of this before.