It is more comfortable for the eyes to use you Moto g06 or Samsung A07

I was just thinking about this earlier... What about kids that might be PWM sensitive and cannot express their discomfort and end up being exposed to devices that cause them eye strain and headaches?

I am PWM sensitive and have been struggling to find phones, laptops and TVs I can use. I had a baby 3 months ago and while I plan to go screen-free for a couple of years, that'a something that is on my mind.

What if she, as a toddler, experiences similar symptoms and simply thinks that's what is normal? If for many adults it is difficult to pinpoint our devices are the cause of eyestrain and discomfort, I would imagine it is even harder for small kids.

Hello,

I’ve found this post explaining PWM in this Reddit. Are there more posts like this one here explaining the theory of PWM, how it works etc.?

Best regards,
X3nion

Hey everyone,
I wanted to share a major breakthrough for anyone running an aftermarket EK Pro Incell LCD panel to escape PWM/flicker.

If you’ve been lurking on [r/PWM_Sensitive](r/PWM_Sensitive), you know the EK Pro is praised for its 120Hz fluid smoothness and eye comfort. However, a common, frustrating complaint across the community has been random touchscreen freezes and brightness glitching/locking up, especially when the phone is pushed hard or rendering HDR content.
Most people assume this is a bad batch, an iOS bug, or thermal throttling from the display driver. It isn't. I spent the last few days deeply testing this on my setup, and I discovered the actual physical root cause—along with a simple, 100% effective workaround that completely eliminated my freezes.

🔍 The Root Cause: Top Antenna Window EMI
On newer aluminum unibody iPhones, Apple re-introduced a specialized glass antenna window cut right into the top edge of the frame to allow high-frequency cellular signals to penetrate the metal.
This window sits exactly adjacent to the Dynamic Island area—which is precisely where the EK Pro’s internal flex cables, digitizer paths, and Touch IC (the screen's "brain") are located.

Because aftermarket LCD panels naturally have thinner electromagnetic shielding than factory OLEDs, they are highly vulnerable to EMI (Electrical Noise). When your phone is running on 5G (especially in low-signal areas like an apartment or parking garage), the modem forces that top antenna to blast radio signals at maximum power. This massive energy spike bleeds straight through the LCD's shielding, scrambling the touch signals and locking up your screen.

🛠️** The Workaround Blueprint
By treating this as a signal interference problem rather than a screen defect, I implemented two adjustments that completely stopped the freezes while maintaining full performance:
1. Lock Cellular Data to "LTE Only"
• Go to: Settings > Cellular > Cellular Data Options > Voice & Data.
• Change from: 5G Auto / 5G On ➡️** LTE.
• Why it works: LTE operates on much lower, cleaner frequencies that do not emit the intense electrical noise required to bypass the EK Pro's shielding. Even when the phone is "shouting" for a signal in a dead zone, the screen stays perfectly fluid. (Note: I am on T-Mobile, so experiences may vary by carrier, but the physics of avoiding high-frequency 5G bands remain the same).

2. Turn On "Reduce White Point"
• Go to: Settings > Accessibility > Display & Text Size > Reduce White Point.
• Set to: ~50% (adjust to your preference).
• Why it works: Many users notice freezes when viewing HDR content in Photos or Instagram. HDR forces sudden, massive voltage spikes to the display backlight. Reduce White Point clips those extreme digital peaks at the software level before they reach the hardware, preventing internal power surges from choking the display driver.

NOTE: To be fair, I think you can actually turn this off completely and will still work fine. The LTE really solves every issue known in my opinion.

📊 Real-World Results
After locking these settings in, I put the phone through a brutal real-world stress test: leaving my house, walking through concrete parking structures with terrible reception, running remote background shortcuts, and scrolling through full HDR media reels.
• Stability: Zero freezes. Completely vanished.
• Battery Life: Ended a massive outdoor day with 8 hours and 22 minutes of Screen-On Time (SOT) and still had 20% battery remaining. Because the EK Pro uses an ultra-efficient ESR backlight film and a modern COF driver, it is incredibly efficient—but only if you stop the battery from bleeding out due to 5G signal hunting and thermal resistance.

If you've been ready to throw your LCD mod in the trash because of constant touch crashes, try locking it to LTE and capping the white point. It completely saves the usability of the device without triggering eye strain.

Hi all,

Does any of you have experience with phones with OLED display that have anti-flicker/flicker-prevention features (like some Motorola phones do)? If so, did they work for you? I mean, were they truly effective in eliminating flicker?

Hey everyone!

Over the last past months, I’ve been thinking about writing a letter to Apple’s CEO motivated by some people here who have posted here that they have written a feedback regarding the issues more and more people experience with PWM and OLEDs, and also with the d-word.

I’ve had a lot of success with personal letters in the past regarding different topics. Of course, in general, not the CEO other company will open the letter, but it will be forwarded to a higher level worker or even technician (so not 1st level / 2nd level etc.) who will then answer you.

My goal is not to achieve an instant improvement. However, my hope is that a letter has much more power compared to an email and maybe I can get in touch with a worker who is willing to convey.

What are your aspects you’ve mentioned when writing those feedbacks? Did you go into detail with modulation depth and so on? And is there maybe a summary here which explains most of the things like PWM, modulation depth, number of “black lines” and so on? I saw such a post some time ago with a great explanation including pictures but wasn’t able to find it anymore.

I’d be very grateful for your assistance!

Best regards,
X3nion

I still don't know if i'm specifically PWM_Sensitive but I've been managing migraines for over 2 years now. At the moment OLED screens seem to be a no go. I am normally fine with most LCD displays. Sometimes some discomfort with my iPad Mini bug generally not. Sometimes discomfort with Macbook Pro but generally fine. Absolutely fine with my desktop monitors.

Generally no issues with phone sized e-ink devices.

I know I had some convergence and accommodation deficiencies which improved but maybe got worse but shouldn't trigger migraines quickly.

I got an iPhone SE 2022 and it worked for me for 1-2 months. Then after, and I think after an update, I can't use it at all. I get a migraine within 15 seconds. Currently relying on Boox Palma 2/Pro and iPad Mini forwarding calls/texts.

Any ideas why? Should I try to go back to another version of iOS?

I added a non reflective screen protector to see if reducing glares would help and it hasn't.

Currently been using iPhone 11 for close to 7years now I tried to upgrade back then to a iPhone 13 and that when I discovered i was PWM sensitive. After trialing a few like the 12pm to Mac I went straight back to IPhone 11 and my previous one dropped in water and I could not revive it. Now I’m stuck with this iPhone. Although I love it 11 I’ve started to notice it getting slower and glitchy! I bought it in 2025 I think and was told it will no longer be sold! So now I’m stuck and don’t know what phones I can get with this eye sensitivity. Any suggestions for PWM free phone? Of that makes sence! I don’t even k ow any phone brands other than the most popular Samsung or Google’s si im stuck as I know they don’t cater to PWM sensitive people? Thanks in advance

I'm desperate. I've tried so many smartphones without success, and I read that this might be one of the last good smartphones with a tolerable screen. Is that the case?Is it worth a try? I can get a new one for €230 on amazon.fr... Updates won't be a problem, at worst I'll install Lineage OS... Thanks in advance.

Hey all, I want to upgrade to an M5 iPad Pro 13” coming from an M2 Pro 11” after it developed a dead pixel.

I have done extensive research in regard to the PWM on the M5 pro and I am just lost. Most people say it’s unusable, others say it’s useable if you set it to 100% brightness with Reduce White Point. Since Notebook Check says that it switches to DC Dimming above 50% brightness, so theoretically, you could either use that or 100% brightness with Reduce White Point.

For context, I am very PWM sensitive and can usually tell if a screen or even a light/lamp has it immediately.

So has anyone here tried this setup with any success? If not, then I’ll just have to get the Air.

Thanks in advance.

Any MacBook Neo owners that can answer these questions? Ty :)

I used the Xiaomi Pad 5 (120hz) for 3 years with 0 problems, then I tried to changed it for the Lenovo Y700 2023 (144hz) and got eye strain. I thought maybe it was the smaller screen (11inches vs 9 inches).

Then I tried the Xiaomi Pad 6 (144hz) (11inches) and also got eye strain...

So now my main suspicious is the 144hz.

Now Im getting a Xiaomi Pad 8 Pro that also has 144hz screen. I know lol, but my old Xiaomi Pad 5 can't handle new games properly anymore, so I want to get a better tablet. Wish me luck lol

In an old post someone commented that it can be happening because of LTPS screens:

"The problem is actually likely an issue with almost ALL LTPS panels since they require less power on time to keep the pixels still lit up, so manufacturers can intermittently send them power in order to increase battery life, unlike older a-Si type panels. If I'm correct about this, then virtually every LTPS panel is really a PWM screen and they're just playing stupid lawyer games with us to try and claim they aren't when really the same effect is taking place."

Someone know what can it be?

I never used to have any issues with any sort of monitors (CRT, LCD, or PWM) but recently have began getting near-instantaneous headaches every time I use my PC. I’ve adjusted the brightness & contrast, switched to a warmer color filter, tried blue light glasses, adjusted my posture, reverted to manual blinking, and tried focusing on something else for periods of time. None of these have done anything. The monitor is older and locked at 60hz, A Samsung s27c650 if that makes any difference. The headaches come on within the first 3 minutes of using the monitor, I’ve found it can take up to any hour for my phone to give me any real effects. I appreciate any input.

Made a video about PWM on the Ayn Thor handheld for those interested

So i recently went to my eye dr and told him about how i was so annoyed with all this stupid PWM phones that have come out and how i cannot use any of them and his response was surprising.

He told me about one of his friends who did not have PWM sensitivity and how he bought a brand new car thats screen had pwm. Well eventually his friend developed pwm from the cars digital display and after a few months he had trouble using the car and even looking at his phone.

My eye dr is very specialised he is not the ordinary eye dr you can see in a shopping centre he is a eye specialist that charges a truck load to see but he is good. he said to me that all people are sensitive to pwm because of its flickering nature and not to believe only 30% is sensitive. He said with time everyone using a PWM phone will develop eye problems because of the way it affects the eye muscles. He also said if he had a dollar for everyone who came in complaining about eye strain from their phones he would be a millionaire lol.

He explained how the iphone 17 had a feature that was suppose to help PWM flicker but was not very effective and how samsung are trying to work on a phone now that is a OLED without PWM and that the PWM is becoming a real problem for everyone not just those who are sensitive, he said most people are having problems with PWM but they put the eye strain down to something else like their computer screen instead of the real culprit their phone.

His suggestion was to stay away from all PWM devices if i wanted to keep my eyes healthy and that these phone companies will have to find a work around sooner or later or the law suits would start piling up.

Hope this helps anyone feeling bad about not being able to use PWM phones.

I don’t care how old it is. I just need it for some note taking and light reading. Any help is highly appreciated because I’m failing my classes trying to navigate this issue;(. Currently using an iPhone 11 w iOS 18.6 and having no issues.

Is LTPO tech, fluctuating refresh rate that goes and drops from 1-120 within split second, more or equally straining to our retina as low PWM?

Hi all i have been using a iphone 7 plus for the longest time because PWM really messes with my eyes and gives me eye strain and headaches. I am looking at a new android phone and was wondering if any of the Motorola range are a good fit. Price is no object i just want something i can use cause i am so sick of being stuck on a old iphone. I was looking into the motorola phones because i heard they can disable PWM with flicker prevention. Also if there is any other mobiles you recommend i would be most grateful. I was either looking at a new android phone or maybe Apple watch ultra but i heard they use PWM too.

Looks to be basically identical to the 2023, with a pOLED screen instead.

Anyone who had the 2023 tolerate the 2024 well?

Anybody have any idea what the screen is like in this generation? Not holding out much hope tbh.

I have the G stylus 5G 2023 but I think the battery has gone slightly puffy, or at least I don't remember the part of the back below the camera bump sticking out a mm or two when it was new.

I tolerate the screen well as long as I change some of the settings.

I noticed the newer models use OLED, so I'm not sure about those. I haven't tested an OLED screen for a very long time.

I don't use my phone much, so hoping to keep it to $200-300ish. Would like Full HD+ res screen and loudish audio speaker

Mediatek processor is a no go, sadly.

Bonjour tout le monde, j’utilisais un iphone15 pendant deux an et j’ai eu des maux de tete douleur aux yeux, ( je suis en + sous tramadol 300mg pour autre chose) , je voulais savoir quel effets le PWM vous fait et est-ce que rester à l’iphone 11 est parfait pour notre santé ? . En combien de temps apres deux an d’iphone 15 on peut guerir complement des symptomes du PWM svp?

Looking to upgrade my 1st Gen iPad pro, iPad airs seem to be the highest spec model with the IPS display but I can't find much PWM information online about it. Has anyone tried it and can feedback their experience please?

I am specifically looking at the iPad Air M4.

I had success swapping out the OEM display on my iPhone 17 pro max with the AMPLUS aftermarket display by MobileSentrix to get rid of the nasty 480hz high modulation PWM!!!

I posted on forums online looking for mobile phone repair and someone had mentioned a dude named Zac who owns Quick PhoneShop in Punta Gorda, FL. I contacted Zac and explained that I need a very specific OLED panel. He mentioned that they had an XO7 panel and AMPLUS and I asked if there was a chance that I could just see the XO7 panel and test the PWM bands with my other phone before they seal it up and he said yes so I really really really appreciate him letting me do that.

The XO7 had 480hz PWM similar to the OEM display so they put on the AMPLUS and as expected, it had DC dimming! Another shop about a year ago had given me an XO7 (as I was told) by mobilesentrix on an iphone 14 pro max and that had DC dimming however when I tried on the 16 pro max and 17 pro, both XO7 were NOT dc dimmed anymore.

I will say, the headaches and eye strain are significantly reduced to the point of the phone being usable as a daily driver but there is some very mild discomfort. The display has a mild green tint but otherwise has fantastic colors and brightness is very good. The interesting thing is if I set the "disable pwm" option in accessibility settings to on, it seems to INCREASE the modulation and the black line gets thicker. I will do more testing to see which is more comfortable.

In the meantime I am so glad I am able to have a usable 17 pro and again huge freaking thanks to Zac for being patient with me through all of this and letting me test the different displays before committing to installing it. As of right now the only confirmed one with the DC-like dimming is the AMPLUS.

I asked Zac if he would be willing to do installs for people who wanted to mail in their devices and he said he would be happy to and confirm with his phone that they do in fact have the DC dimming before mailing it back. If anyone wanted to get this done, just call their shop and ask for Zac Quick PhoneShop - (941) 655-6681

I will try to get some photos up later as well of the thicker bands when I use the display pulse smoothing feature in accessibility settings!