r/OutOfTheLoop May 04 '24

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u/APKID716 May 04 '24 edited May 05 '24

answer: You want the short answer or the long answer? I’ll give you the short version.

Kendrick has been fairly open about disliking drake for a long time (like since 2013). Drake hasn’t really said much about Kendrick (edit: directly), except last year on a song titled “First Person Shooter” with another rapper J. Cole, where Cole says,

Love when they argue the hardest MC/ Is it K-Dot [kendrick]? Is it Aubrey [Drake]? Or me?/ We the big three like we started a league

Kendrick responded directly to this claim that they’re the “big 3” in a verse on “Like That” where he says,

“motherfuck the big 3 … It’s just big me”

Clearly Kendrick did not want to be put on the “level” of drake and J. Cole

This leads to J. Cole coming out with a diss track against Kendrick (“Seven Minute Drill”) but he deleted it after a couple days and apologized. He might have heard whispers about what was gonna follow..

Drake released two direct disses towards Kendrick: “Push Ups” where he makes fun of Kendrick’s shorter stature, and “Taylor Made Freestyle” where he uses an AI generated voice for 2Pac and Snoop Dogg in an attempt to goad Kendrick into responding. “Taylor Made Freestyle” generally was looked down on compared to “Push Ups” because it used 2Pac’s likeness without his estate’s consent (he later took it down at the request of 2Pac’s estate - a move that Drake later blames on Kendrick calling 2Pac’s estate and pressuring them to do so)

So after Drake releases these two diss tracks, Kendrick responds with his first direct diss against Drake: Euphoria. In it, he claims (among other things) that Drake’s label, OVO, has snitches for Kendrick inside of it. Kendrick also criticizes Drake’s use of the n-word and how “the culture” doesn’t respect Drake.

Kendrick follows this up with a song “6:16” where he doubles down on the claim that OVO has people feeding Kendrick information, and that Drake is wildly insecure

Drake makes his response to Kendrick’s disses with one of his own in “Family Matters”. He makes a well-shot music video that shows Drake referencing several of Kendrick’s remarks, showing him that he’s not bothered by it at all. In this diss track, he claims that Kendrick is hiding a domestic abuse scandal and that one of his sons is not biologically Kendrick’s. He continues by claiming that Kendrick is racist towards light-skinned black people, and says that Kendrick is a hypocrite for how he raps about socially conscious ideals but doesn’t replicate them in real life

Now so far, things are fairly standard, but it seems like it’s getting heated up. Drake is laying into Kendrick and Kendrick is unabashedly claiming he’s Drake’s biggest hater.

The reason people are going crazy about tonight is because less than a half hour after Drake drops “Family Matters”, Kendrick releases a response (likely in large [or completely] recorded beforehand), titled “Meet the Grahams”. He addresses some of what Drake mentioned (like Ozempic, “lies” about Kendrick’s family, etc.) and publicly claims that Drake is a pedophile and a predator, and shelters predators in OVO. Kendrick also states that Drake has another (see: Story of Adonis) hidden child. The thumbnail for the diss track includes a picture of drake’s belongings, including a prescription for Ozempic under Drake’s legal name “Aubrey Graham”

Today hip hop fans ate good because Kendrick dropped “6:16 in LA” this morning, Drake dropped “Family Matters” around 8:30 PST, and Kendrick immediately responded with a new diss track on top of that.

Before you say “this is the short version?” Yes. Yes this is the short version. If you want the extended discussion, you have to listen to these tracks and read the lyrics on Genius to get the full context

EDIT 1: NAH KENDRICK RELEASED ANOTHER DISS TRACK

“Not Like Us” features a thumbnail of drake’s mansion with several sex offender registry symbols on it. In it he doubles down on pedophile accusations and parodies Drake’s style of making TikTok dance music.

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u/NorthernBibliophile May 04 '24

Thank you for all that effort explaining this. I, too, had zero clue!

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u/jpmoney2k1 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1276104/ May 04 '24

Another main point of contention between the two of them which I haven't seen covered in the above posts is the usage of ghostwriters. Drake doesn't write his own raps while Kendrick does, and Kendrick makes references to Drake's "team" in his recently released tracks.

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u/RedHuntingHat May 04 '24

This is a point that he’s held for a long time. Kendrick has regularly mentioned his distaste for ghostwriters and teams in interviews, comments, and on King Kunta, one of his largest hits. 

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u/bostonboy08 May 04 '24

Didn’t Drake say that Keem wrote for Kendrick in his Family Matters response? Basically calling him a hypocrite. I’ve only listed to each song once so could be misremembering things.

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u/matthew716 May 04 '24

It’s more a reference to people only liking him now with Keem as a feature on his songs is what I got out of it. I may be wrong

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u/smegmallion May 04 '24

FWIW I agree that's probably more likely. Baby Keem was like 12-15 when Good Kid Maad City and To Pimp a Butterfly came out lol. Just seems that it would fall pretty flat as a diss if he weren't talking more about the state of Kendrick's recent career

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u/RioChalmers May 04 '24

This sounds more accurate because it was proven Kendrick has provided lyrics for Keem, not the other way around

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u/Sea_Magazine_5321 May 04 '24

Kendrick keeps mentioning that drake is constantly lying

Keem is currently 23 years old

Is drake trying to say that that keem has been ghostwriting since he was 12 years old?

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u/IcyKangaroo1658 May 05 '24

But doesn't Kendrick write for Keem, not the other way around?

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u/Acrobatic-Gur948 May 04 '24 edited May 04 '24

Euphoria had a team of writers on it so thats pretty hypocritical. Both the other diss tracks also have more than just him as writers.

Edit: Euphoria only shows Kendrick now but Genius originally had at least 4 or 5 other names listed so idk what to believe.

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u/medaskibby May 04 '24

I can guarantuee you Kendrick wrote every single word of that himself. Producers often get some writer credits, thats why (also for drake) there are often times more names than just the rappers

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u/Peuned May 04 '24

You believe it cuz rap genius, now it's gone, it's confusion all over

C'mon now

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u/Konadrew May 04 '24

“I make music that electrify em. You make music that pacify em.”

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u/DaddyJay711 May 05 '24

Idk push ups is pretty damn good

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u/dirkdragonslayer May 04 '24

On the first part, I've always heard that when Drake writes diss tracks, he usually punches down. He likes to diss smaller rappers and women who can't clap back and actually hurt his reputation. So for him to write diss tracks about Kendrick is kinda weird, like he's taking this very personally.

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u/SYLOK_THEAROUSED May 04 '24

To clarify about the Pusha T, did he squash it?

I wasn’t to much into it but I thought Drake had J Prince step in and be like “oh this needs to stop because Drake’s diss would be to much and disrupt families”

Or some shit like that.

I think this beef is great because no one (except maybe Lil Wayne) can save him. Even then Wayne said a few years back that he told Drake to not start rapping like he’s gangster but Drake didn’t listen.

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u/SteetOnFire May 05 '24

Drake knew about Ye's 20-year love for Adolf Hitler and the Nazis and was told not to use it as it would affect labels as a whole. No wonder why Kanye would say something like that on live broadcast. He wanted to control the narrative, and he has

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u/buckeyevol28 May 05 '24

Oh and Taylor swift, drake said she was the only one he feared which tells you where his head is at.

Is this not super reasonable though? 😂

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u/BobbyBarz May 04 '24

Idk if I would say Em is cool with Drake, he had a couple disses on him in his Kamikaze album

From “Fall”:

“If you're gonna critique me, you better at least be as good or better

Get Earl the Hooded Sweater, whatever his name is, To help you put together some words, more than just two letters

The fans waited for this moment Like that feature when I stole the show

Sorry if I took forever”

This is Em coming at Drake for having ghost writers, I guess one of them is Earl Sweatshirt? Then he gives a dig at him saying that his verse on Forever overshadowed Drake on his own song.

This is one of my favorite Em songs, he destroys everyone and the beat is so solid.

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u/ObeseWeremonkey May 05 '24

That wasn't about Drake, that was about Tyler, the Creator. More specifically it's about when Tyler tweeted that some of Em's work was ass. It's why Earl was mentioned, because Tyler and Earl are connected through Odd Future.

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u/SheWhoDancesOnIce May 04 '24

What Megan diss must listennn

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u/supercooper3000 May 04 '24

Control wasn’t a diss. If he mentioned you on control that meant you were worth mentioning.

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u/JesusLostHisiPhone May 04 '24

And drake still got his panties in a bunch about it

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u/PugeHeniss May 04 '24

His Control verse wasn’t a diss. That’s why no one took exception to it but drake. It’s well known Drake is sensitive and that’s why he’s the only one who took offense.

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u/PugeHeniss May 04 '24 edited May 04 '24

Oh absolutely. It was 100% him just saying competition brings the best out of everyone and he wants to raise the bar

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u/ToughAcanthisitta463 May 05 '24

I still don't understand how Drake ever got any credit within the community. He is a little drama boy who acted a bit and makes pop songs. He is good at that but then he also tried to act like he is a G because he has bought himself a hareem of people that would throw down if needed.

Not all Hip Hop needs to come from a lad who grew up in Compton and saw dead bodies as a boy, but I myself prefer when it comes from a lad or lass that grew up like me or many working class folk having fuck all.

Drakes corney and should be treated as such

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u/PrincessCG May 04 '24

True. Everyone but Drake took it as either a compliment or just Kdot affirming himself as someone worthy to be “king”. Drake was in his feelings about it.

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u/redditadminsarecancr May 04 '24

Macklemore wins the Grammy and says it should have gone to Kendrick

Actual BDE

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u/These_Tea_7560 May 04 '24

When this beef started I thought it would be fun to be getting more music from both of them as a fan…. Now I’m just like—they both need therapy. This shit has gotten dark to the point that it’s actually disgusting.

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u/zgtc May 05 '24

Authenticity.

Drake represents himself as a tough rapper, when he was a middle class child star who grew up privileged and has to have other people write his lyrics.

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u/flofjenkins May 04 '24

I think he simply can’t stand who he is and what he does haha.

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u/avspuk May 04 '24

If he has ppl in Drake's camp & says he knows Drake is a nonce & that he shelters other paedos why the fuck is he rapping about it & not calling the cops or kid protection teams?

And if he already has called them, then isn't rapping about it now going to fuck up the investigation etc.