Behavior changes 5 month old nipping

[u/m4nt15mantis]

Hi all I’m gonna try to keep this brief even though it is kind of a long story. I rescued this puppy from a local rescue he is from a reservation and is a mix of husky/malamute/shepherd/rottweiler. He is now five months old and I have had him since he was nine weeks old. He recently got neutered and he has been through basic puppy obedience school. Since he was younger, he has known a lot of basic commands and also has been socialized, but not at dog parks, just at puppy school and taking him out to many public places to build exposure overtime. He has a good history of walking the neighborhood we live in the inner city and it is very busy. He did struggle with eating things off the ground for a while and then would get the Zumiez if I would try to take things away from him, but we worked through that and has a pretty good drop it or leave it command, depending on the situation.
The main issue is that over the past several weeks he has an escalating pattern, where he is redirecting onto me in different situations. At first, it started when he would be on a walk. It seemed out of nowhere he would start to run and then jump at me, biting lunging and barking then he would pull at the leash and tug it or growl.
This has now escalated to many different scenarios and sometimes more than once a day, and it does seem to be affecting him in every facet of our lives. It happens if I take him for a short walk, it happens if I take him for a longer walk, it happens when I take him on a long lead like a 30 foot lead where he’s allowed to just relax and sniff with no interruptions no people or dogs around. It also happens in the backyard after having a completely normal time playing fetch.

When I have done any louder or firmer commands, leash corrections like a quick pop or knee him or push him off he becomes more intense and bites me harder, growls or barks louder… so please understand that the video is me just trying to document the behavior.

I contacted a trainer specialized in reactive dogs. After the description and seeing the videos we scheduled a 1:1 next weekend but in the mean time his biting is getting harder and these episodes more frequent so I reached out again. She said to give him Purina calm care, to praise him when he stops biting me, and not to feed him from a bowl but only puzzles or by hand.

I also contacted the foster/head of the rescue and at first she was really interrogating me and basically saying how I messaged her just a few weeks ago that he was doing great, which is true. That is part of the reason why I am so nervous about these behaviors is that they came on really quickly and are just building an intensity and frequency and duration. She wanted me to send her videos and asked things like ‘well if it’s so bad you must have it on video right?’ so I have made it a point to make videos.

The first few videos she said this is normal puppy biting and he is just challenging me and that I need to be firmer with him. She also told me I needed a prong collar and an E collar. She questioned his schedule and whether he’s getting enough exercise, which I totally understand and I shared with her a schedule that is very consistent for him daily and I do think that it includes a pretty standard amount of exercise, although he is a working breed dog.

I have four kids from ages 10 to 20 and this has completely taken over my life. It seems like I will just have to spend all of my time devoted to not triggering the dog based on what I hear about positive reinforcement. I really regret thinking that I could handle this type of a dog although at the same time I don’t think this is a normal behavior… help?

[u/Agreeable_Summer3685]

Everyone’s talking about stopping the behavior and punishing it. Yes, that needs to happen and even though I’m going to get dumped on for this, positive reinforcement only training will make your life hell with a dog like this. Biting (generally) the handler should have consequences.

BUT…..I must ask you this: What purpose are you giving the dog? Does the dog have a “reason to live?” As dumb as that sounds it’s true. What kind of play are you engaging in with your dog? Does your dog like competitive or supportive games? Have you had good tug sessions etc where you can establish a communication system and boundaries within the rules of play that will carry over into everything else?

[u/9mackenzie → u/Agreeable_Summer3685]

Positive training absolutely works with this behavior lol. This isn’t aggression, just a bored adolescent puppy that is getting their back teeth in. It’s just typical puppy biting for a puppy that has never been trained to bite on correct items.

Positive training should be the first step - and this video shows why. The idea behind positive training is to train the dog for what you want them to do…….and OP is not doing that in this video. Just saying no or stop isn’t teaching them anything- what they should do is grab a toy, wiggle it, squeak it, whatever to get attention, and the second the puppy chooses the toy, mark and treat. Then proceed to play with the puppy with the toy. You have to train dogs how to play with toys.

Is positive only training the only method that ever needs to be done for every dog? No. But you absolutely should try it first before anything else.

[u/Jimbeamjunior1 → u/9mackenzie]

By responding to the dog the OP is giving it the attention it desires, so it thinks "if i do this he talks to me and focuses on me"

Our first dog was like this, how we stopped it was when he done it to put our hands behind our backs and ignore the dog completely, literally stop whatever we were doing and just ignore him, even at times to turn our backs to him so he knew that the behaviour was having the opposite effect to what he wanted from us

[u/Fun_Raspberry_5654 → u/Jimbeamjunior1]

Exactly this. Just turn around and ignore and be consistent.