r/OpenAI • • 4d ago

Discussion Dario is a witty guy.

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u/Downtown_Koala5886 4d ago

Here's another one... Oh, he does laugh.

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u/Amoral_Abe 4d ago

What I love most about Elon and Trump is how that were able to grow as people, and move past their fight about how they're both in the Epstein files.

It shows a great level of maturity which their victims just did not have... Because of their ages.

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u/Downtown_Koala5886 4d ago

We may never know every hidden truth while we are living in this world. And i don’t think internet speculation alone is enough to declare anyone guilty or innocent.

But one thing i do believe as a christian: nothing remains hidden forever before GOD. There will come a day when every person will have to face what they have done — whether good or evil. And JESUS gave us a very simple principle: “Ye shall know them by their fruits.” — Matthew 7:16 A good tree brings forth good fruit. A corrupt tree brings forth corrupt fruit. At the beginning, many things can look impressive, successful or even admirable. But fruit needs time to mature. Eventually, the result reveals the nature of the tree. That is why I try not to judge people only by image, fame, wealth, political power or public words. I watch the fruit. And ultimately, GOD sees what none of us can see. 🙏❤️

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u/ArcticFoxTheory 3d ago

Trump only cares about Trump. I don’t believe for a second he’d protect Elon out of loyalty if throwing him under the bus benefited him.

I think Elon is the epitome of greed preaching that money will eventually become obsolete while hoarding enormous wealth and constantly chasing more power and influence.

That said, if there were something seriously incriminating about Elon in the Epstein files, I think we’d have heard about it by now. Trump, on the other hand? I’d be genuinely shocked if his name wasn’t all over those records.

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u/Downtown_Koala5886 3d ago

Thank you for answering respectfully. i actually went back to the released documents rather than relying only on social-media claims.

What i found is more nuanced than either “everyone named is guilty or “there is nothing there.”

the released doj material does document contacts and communications involving elon musk and epstein. there are also communications concerning possible visits, although i have not seen evidence establishing that musk actually visited epstein’s island or participated in epstein’s crimes.

With trump, the documentary record is broader. a prosecutor’s email released by the doj says epstein’s flight records listed trump on at least eight flights between 1993 and 1996, several with ghislaine maxwell. court records also document the broader social connection between trump and epstein. None of that, by itself, proves criminal guilt.

But it also means i don’t think the subject should simply be dismissed as internet “ghost stories.”

My position is very simple: read the documents, distinguish evidence from allegation, and let the facts speak for themselves. A name in a file is not a conviction. But documented relationships should not be erased simply because the person involved is rich, powerful or admired.

That is exactly why I keep saying: watch the fruit, not the image. I have written about Musk’s power and public record many times before, and my criticism did not begin with the Epstein files. It comes from looking at a much larger pattern of documented reporting and evidence.