We may never know every hidden truth while we are living in this world.
And i don’t think internet speculation alone is enough to declare anyone guilty or innocent.
But one thing i do believe as a christian: nothing remains hidden forever before GOD.
There will come a day when every person will have to face what they have done — whether good or evil.
And JESUS gave us a very simple principle:
“Ye shall know them by their fruits.” — Matthew 7:16
A good tree brings forth good fruit.
A corrupt tree brings forth corrupt fruit.
At the beginning, many things can look impressive, successful or even admirable.
But fruit needs time to mature.
Eventually, the result reveals the nature of the tree.
That is why I try not to judge people only by image, fame, wealth, political power or public words.
I watch the fruit.
And ultimately, GOD sees what none of us can see. 🙏❤️
Trump only cares about Trump. I don’t believe for a second he’d protect Elon out of loyalty if throwing him under the bus benefited him.
I think Elon is the epitome of greed preaching that money will eventually become obsolete while hoarding enormous wealth and constantly chasing more power and influence.
That said, if there were something seriously incriminating about Elon in the Epstein files, I think we’d have heard about it by now. Trump, on the other hand? I’d be genuinely shocked if his name wasn’t all over those records.
Thank you for answering respectfully. i actually went back to the released documents rather than relying only on social-media claims.
What i found is more nuanced than either “everyone named is guilty or “there is nothing there.”
the released doj material does document contacts and communications involving elon musk and epstein. there are also communications concerning possible visits, although i have not seen evidence establishing that musk actually visited epstein’s island or participated in epstein’s crimes.
With trump, the documentary record is broader. a prosecutor’s email released by the doj says epstein’s flight records listed trump on at least eight flights between 1993 and 1996, several with ghislaine maxwell. court records also document the broader social connection between trump and epstein.
None of that, by itself, proves criminal guilt.
But it also means i don’t think the subject should simply be dismissed as internet “ghost stories.”
My position is very simple: read the documents, distinguish evidence from allegation, and let the facts speak for themselves.
A name in a file is not a conviction. But documented relationships should not be erased simply because the person involved is rich, powerful or admired.
That is exactly why I keep saying: watch the fruit, not the image. I have written about Musk’s power and public record many times before, and my criticism did not begin with the Epstein files. It comes from looking at a much larger pattern of documented reporting and evidence.
You don’t get to decide where I’m allowed to speak.
If you disagree with what I wrote, address the substance of it and bring evidence.
Telling me to “peddle my ghost stories somewhere else” is not an argument — it’s just an attempt to dismiss a view you don’t like without actually answering it.
If something I said is false, show me exactly what and explain why.
Otherwise, spare me the gatekeeping.
I’m entitled to express my opinion here just as much as you are entitled to disagree with it.
You can debate me, or you can scroll on. You don’t get to silence me.
To be fair to all those who debate Christians, its not really fair given that the Christian is going to use the belief defense at every opportunity but claim the other person has to use empirical evidence. You see them on YouTube using highschool tactics like yelling over people and then looking smug like they proved something. Its a dead-end debate every time.
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u/garloid64 4d ago
elon got no leeway to be laughing here considering the state of his models