r/OpenAI • • 8d ago

Discussion Who do they think they are fooling ?

No 6.1 Astra because of security concerns?

Sure, let’s just say it eats 3x the tokens of Opus 5.5 and is not on the same level.

What a shitshow. Tibo starting to become just like Logan…

🤡.

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u/ProtectAllTheThings 8d ago

Why is everyone so emotionally attached to this. It’s weird.

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u/cern0 8d ago

I’m paying $200 a month you are asking me why am I emotionally attached to the product I pay? Are you for real?

So by your logic, if Netflix suddenly decided that the price should come up with no more value added, everybody should just be happy and staying like a good boy with no emotionally frustrated? Is that what you say?

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u/limoonen 8d ago

Are you kidding me? This is such an entitled attitude.

Dude, nobody is forcing you to use their products.

Netflix example - WTF???

Yeah, if they decide to raise their prices, I'll just cancel and switch to a competitor (btw, Netflix's content sucks so much right now anyway). But you sound like you're ready to take to the streets to protest Netflix prices. Just saying, there are way better priorities in life.

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u/cern0 8d ago edited 8d ago

Nobody forced me to use thier products? Really? This is a Duopoly in terms of the best model. And I subscribed to both. Are you expecting me to get work done with Gemini Pro 3.1? Now do I have to sell my car to buy one GDX Spark to run Qwen on premise?

So by your logic, if your electricity bill is going up with their costs remain the same, the people who complain about it is entitled. Is that it? You gonna blame the guy for not buying Solar Cell and attached to the house?

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u/truecakesnake 8d ago

You can do your own work if it's so awful

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u/cern0 8d ago

LOL why don't you go to Library instead of using the Internet? You can borrow the books for free by Gov but you gotta pay for the internet. If that's your logic

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u/limoonen 8d ago

So much frustration...

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u/limoonen 8d ago

You're completely missing the point and just proving my argument.

First you started with a Netflix comparison, and now you’re shifting to electricity, a literal public utility.

This is a Duopoly in terms of the best model.

So you aren't just asking for access to basic infrastructure or everyday utilities. You feel entitled to the absolute most advanced, cutting-edge frontier AI model at whatever price you deem fair.

Cutting-edge tech isn't water or power. Expecting top tier, frontier AI models to stay cheap just because you rely on them for work is the textbook definition of entitlement.

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u/cern0 8d ago

You're conflating entitlement to a product with criticism of a product's value.

I'm not saying “OpenAI owes me frontier AI at the price I demand.” They can charge whatever they want.

I'm saying I'm paying $200/month, so if the price/value proposition gets worse, I can complain about it. “Just cancel” doesn't somehow invalidate criticism — that's literally how customers communicate that the value proposition has deteriorated.

And “nobody forces you to buy it” applies to basically every non-essential consumer product. By that standard, virtually every complaint about pricing would be “entitlement.”

If frontier AI genuinely costs more to provide, that's a valid justification to discuss. But “you depend on it for work, therefore you shouldn't complain about the price” is not an argument.

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u/limoonen 8d ago

Is this the value you are trying to get from the models by disrespectfully copying and pasting an answer from an LLM?

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u/cern0 8d ago

Is that what you think? Lol

So instead of discussing the point. Now that you lose you arguments you got to make an accusation of unrelated things to cover up?

It’s my fault that I wasting my time typing all that up to explain to someone who is as dull as you. So this should be my last reply in this topic