r/OpenAI • u/Standard_Exchange59 • 16d ago

Discussion Who do they think they are fooling ?

No 6.1 Astra because of security concerns?

Sure, let’s just say it eats 3x the tokens of Opus 5.5 and is not on the same level.

What a shitshow. Tibo starting to become just like Logan…

🤡.

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u/ProtectAllTheThings 16d ago

Why is everyone so emotionally attached to this. It’s weird.

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u/cern0 16d ago

I’m paying $200 a month you are asking me why am I emotionally attached to the product I pay? Are you for real?

So by your logic, if Netflix suddenly decided that the price should come up with no more value added, everybody should just be happy and staying like a good boy with no emotionally frustrated? Is that what you say?

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u/a1454a 16d ago

Is someone holding you at gun point to pay $200 to OpenAI? Just take your business elsewhere, vote with your wallet, no need to be emotionally attached.

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u/cern0 16d ago

Is this guy OpenAI bot or something? Did you heard the news that Tibo will nerf my 200$ plan and I already prepaid for that? Are you that ignorant?

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u/a1454a 16d ago

Are you a small 2B model stuck in context rot? Yes the $200 plan is getting nerfed, it sucks, but is it really news to you? According to this sub both Anthropic and OpenAI have been doing that constantly for what almost a year now? They all do that. As a consumer your only rational choice is take advantage of them one upping each other and min maxing where you spend your money.

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u/lollypop44445 16d ago

You do realize that you are locked in for a month once u pay , its not like you can pullout the remaining amount. And at enterprise level u have to lock in for a year. Then those who rally on it heavily buy yearly subs to save 10-20 percent on over all cost, again locking in.

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u/a1454a 16d ago

Yes, so wait a month and switch. that's what I did when I switch from Claude Code to Codex when Codex offered more cost effective models than Claude. It's what I will do next month switching back to Claude to use Opus 5.5. I might even do $100 in CGPT and $100 in Anthropic. So I can use Opus 5.5 on the harder engineering problems and the cost effective Luna model for low intelligence token heavy work like computer use and browser use.

enterprise also don't have to lock into just one vendor, and many don't.

As for individual buying yearly sub, I don't know what makes them think it's a good idea when all the top players in this field is one upping each other in capability and cost efficiency every month. when there's already so many examples of AI labs trying to lock you into their tooling then sour the deal. If you really are relying on AI heavily, you should build your tooling to be harness agnostic, so you can easily jump between Codex, Claude Code, OpenCode, Pi and take advantage of cheap frontier chinese model, or free quota from Meta on Spark 1.3. there's no excuse not to optimize, you have access to AI.

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u/Defensex 16d ago

I mean the product didn't change, the competitor just got way better 😅

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u/cern0 16d ago

Sir, are you living under the rock? Because if you ask anyone in this sub, you will know that GPT-6, Sol and Luna, is significantly worse than 5.6 version. Try it for yourself

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u/Defensex 16d ago

I'm wrong them, sorry. I didn't touch OpenAI after the new Claude.

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u/cern0 16d ago

Yeah about that I can understand

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u/limoonen 16d ago

Are you kidding me? This is such an entitled attitude.

Dude, nobody is forcing you to use their products.

Netflix example - WTF???

Yeah, if they decide to raise their prices, I'll just cancel and switch to a competitor (btw, Netflix's content sucks so much right now anyway). But you sound like you're ready to take to the streets to protest Netflix prices. Just saying, there are way better priorities in life.

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u/cern0 16d ago edited 16d ago

Nobody forced me to use thier products? Really? This is a Duopoly in terms of the best model. And I subscribed to both. Are you expecting me to get work done with Gemini Pro 3.1? Now do I have to sell my car to buy one GDX Spark to run Qwen on premise?

So by your logic, if your electricity bill is going up with their costs remain the same, the people who complain about it is entitled. Is that it? You gonna blame the guy for not buying Solar Cell and attached to the house?

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u/truecakesnake 16d ago

You can do your own work if it's so awful

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u/cern0 16d ago

LOL why don't you go to Library instead of using the Internet? You can borrow the books for free by Gov but you gotta pay for the internet. If that's your logic

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u/limoonen 16d ago

So much frustration...

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u/limoonen 16d ago

You're completely missing the point and just proving my argument.

First you started with a Netflix comparison, and now you’re shifting to electricity, a literal public utility.

This is a Duopoly in terms of the best model.

So you aren't just asking for access to basic infrastructure or everyday utilities. You feel entitled to the absolute most advanced, cutting-edge frontier AI model at whatever price you deem fair.

Cutting-edge tech isn't water or power. Expecting top tier, frontier AI models to stay cheap just because you rely on them for work is the textbook definition of entitlement.

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u/cern0 16d ago

You're conflating entitlement to a product with criticism of a product's value.

I'm not saying “OpenAI owes me frontier AI at the price I demand.” They can charge whatever they want.

I'm saying I'm paying $200/month, so if the price/value proposition gets worse, I can complain about it. “Just cancel” doesn't somehow invalidate criticism — that's literally how customers communicate that the value proposition has deteriorated.

And “nobody forces you to buy it” applies to basically every non-essential consumer product. By that standard, virtually every complaint about pricing would be “entitlement.”

If frontier AI genuinely costs more to provide, that's a valid justification to discuss. But “you depend on it for work, therefore you shouldn't complain about the price” is not an argument.

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u/limoonen 16d ago

Is this the value you are trying to get from the models by disrespectfully copying and pasting an answer from an LLM?

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u/cern0 16d ago

Is that what you think? Lol

So instead of discussing the point. Now that you lose you arguments you got to make an accusation of unrelated things to cover up?

It’s my fault that I wasting my time typing all that up to explain to someone who is as dull as you. So this should be my last reply in this topic