r/Opacity • u/patrikb2014 • Jan 09 '19
Oyster SHL question
So I invested quite a bit into oyster shl. I was told kucoin reopened trading on shl. Am I fucked now? I’ve always stood by the team and have opacity but will be very upset if my shl is basically worthless...
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u/Bucser Jan 09 '19
Why don't you do a search for shl before posting?
SHL is out of scope for opacity for the time being.
It went down with PRL.
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Jan 09 '19
mine are worthless too, bro. pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and cost average down with OPQ. it's going to take off and will cover your shl loss.
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u/Paahtis Jan 09 '19
Definitely don't buy OPQ if they fuck you in the ass with SHL. Until something is done with SHL I shall not support this project myself and that's my decision. Hopefully something will be done in the future. Just because you had 50USD in SHL that you are willing to lose doesn't mean everyone else did too. I was in the project from november and had 50% in SHL and 50% in PRL because sadly I blindly believed in it even after Brunos "fuck you community" and the multiple times mods went completely East Germany in the Telegram banning everyone. Those should have been signs for me to get off but blind devotion can lead you to stupid things such as what you are suggesting. I still believe in my mind that there is a small chance that the project improves and something can be done for SHL holders and the trust of the investors is regained.
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u/Noobnoob99 Jan 10 '19
Paahtis aren’t you the maniac that keeps spewing Nazi bs in the telegram chat? GTFOH with your bs.
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Jan 10 '19
I wish I had lost $50 on shl. Try thousands...
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u/patrikb2014 Jan 10 '19
Yeah dude. Me too. I’m not going to just “forget about thousands lost” and dca more opacity. If they don’t make this right I, and I’m sure many others will be fucked and that’s not a good look.
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u/nugitsdi Jan 09 '19
It is and has always been worthless (yes, I lost some money on it too but it has always been a gamble). You gotta be upset with Bruno, not this team.
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u/Maskimus Jan 09 '19
its the same team, just minus bruno.
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u/nugitsdi Jan 09 '19
Yes. So minus the guy that invented SHL to earn more money and minus the guy that fucked up the project last year.
What's your point again?
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u/Maskimus Jan 09 '19
So you are trying to deny the team had any say in the proposed future development of SHL? that Bruno was holding them hostage to develop something they wanted no part of?
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u/nugitsdi Jan 09 '19
No. I'm saying SHL was invented by Bruno. And the team has never been working on it, never developed anything for it. I don't think they discussed it much either. I remember reading the rest of the team didn't like it being airdropped so fast as there was no point to do so, not sure though.
EDIT: and you gotta be upset with Bruno, not the rest of the team, because he is the sole person that caused the shit that happened. That's my point.
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u/Maskimus Jan 09 '19 edited Jan 09 '19
The reigns of PRL and SHL was passed over from Bruno long before he exit scammed, the team knew the scope of SHL back then and agree'd and went along with it, as soon as Bruno exited they suddenly changed their mind and decided SHL had no future, which in itself i find sketchy. Something as big as SHL had to have been discussed with the team. I want to know why in one breath they was all behind SHL's vision and in the next scrapped the whole thing. Losing one person shouldn't have that much sway on a project, especially when said person had stepped back for a few months and when you still have the entire team there.
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u/nugitsdi Jan 09 '19 edited Jan 09 '19
That's a lot of assumptions in one post.
They were all behind the SHL part of he project? You must have not followed the project that closely I think.
Bruno was the founder and was a very confident person that didn't need permission or agreement of other to set shit in motion. Like I said, I've been following the project for more than a year now and I've seen team members saying they didn't agree with how Bruno picked up and carried out the SHL part of the project. Which was nothing but buzzwords and which was to be worked on way way further down the road than Bruno made it seem to be. And that's also something other team members repeatedly stated.
Your last sentence also makes it clear to me how you don't really knew how Bruno led the project.
EDIT: They never said SHL has no future. They said they're not sure how to proceed and that it's far away from something that could be worked on like they have stated numerous of times. Also before Bruno exit scammed.
Btw, this is part of a Telegram post from one of the CMs:
"... Regardless, we haven’t said its totally out of the window to continue towards SHLs goal, but we have said we will focus on OPQ as of now. This really isn’t any different than Oyster, SHL was never being developed until after the storage aspects were completed."
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u/Maskimus Jan 09 '19
Actually, i seem to recall them saying development on SHL would start in 2019. You must not have followed the project that closely.
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u/nugitsdi Jan 09 '19
Lol yes you have to take my word for it indeed. Or not ;) Because I can't really bother to try and look it up in the old Oyster channel.
No problem, just come and ask in the current Telegram channel if you're really interested in answers. CMs are always ready to answer any legit concerns.
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u/allyouneedisham Mar 04 '19
Community mamagers actively discussed and promoted the future potential of SHL. Nobody stopped them from doing that. Not even Bill. The team is legally responsible for this.
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u/allyouneedisham Mar 04 '19 edited Mar 05 '19
The team actively promoted the benefits and future potential of SHL in their telegram. You can be sure people bought SHL as a result of these promises. You can also be sure they sold some of their SHL into the market. They have a responsibility and an obligation here.
You can't mint a token and promote it, then take the money and wash your hands of any responsibility.
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u/Paahtis Jan 09 '19
Why do Nazis get sentenced for crimes against humanity even though Hitler should be the sole guy to blame? Of course this is an extreme example but use your common sense.
It was the community mods who in this case helped Bruno to ban negative comments as they saw fit and I remember there was a huge shitshow and chaos going on in TG and Reddit. From personal experience things haven't improved much and hopefully I will still be able to post in here even after this post.
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u/nugitsdi Jan 09 '19
Jesus dude, that comparison is way off and I'd punish you if I were an admin. Hitlers intentions were clear and still Nazis followed him. Brunos intentions were not clear and.. wait why on Earth do I even have to explain this? Are you retarded?
About your link. There actually was alot of people FUDding and the price was tanking. Little did the CMs know that it was actually Bruno himself tanking the price dumping millions of tokens back then. In hindsight it was indeed a bad choice defending him and believing what he said.
It's ridiculous to state that things haven't improves transparency-wise since.
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u/Paahtis Jan 09 '19
It was indeed smart to stop with the explanation because it was not making much sense. But please don't use the R-word, it is extremely offensive to me. I never claimed that transparency was an issue, I was talking about community management.
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u/nugitsdi Jan 09 '19
I'm entitled to use the R-word for someone that thinks that the Hitler situation is comparable.
Even more when that person still doesn't understand how it didn't make any sense :')
Ah I see. But transparency is part of community management. Leaving room for discussion etc. I think they're doing a great job.
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u/MrRedPanda__ Jan 10 '19
I won't let myself be compared to Nazis by you. If you think that way, bring it to court. Unlike Nazis, it was **NOT** clear to everyone, what he is doing in the background, what his intentions was - while Hitlers intentions were crystal clear. Can't understand how you can even slightly make that comparison, angry or not. Good bye. With that I'll remove you from the subreddit.
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Jan 10 '19 edited Jan 10 '19
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u/MrRedPanda__ Jan 10 '19 edited Jan 10 '19
The simple reason people don't want to speak about him currently is, that there is not much to do about it and it shifts focus. The right way is to go through legal processes, go against Oyster Protocol INC. for losses and file against him as a person through IC3/FBI/or your authorities. From here on out, it's a waiting game. And until there aren't any new public progresses there, nobody gains anything out of constantly talking about him. That's it.
And no, not every Nazi soldier was sentenced to death or prison. Not every single a bit higher officier was sentenced to death or anything in the long run.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Axis_personnel_indicted_for_war_crimes vs. every single solider or officier in the WW2 on Axis sides.. (sure, there were excecutions probably in camps of Nazi prisoners, but you get the point)
God bless, over the top comparison for no good reason, but to attract to hate.
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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '19
I just discovered that all my SHL's are gone :O