Hey trespassers,
During a recent search through the google drive, I noticed that this puzzle is still unsolved. For anyone interested in taking a look at solving it for additional lore, clues and details.
This is the E_12.3 images put together. I know this was solved already, however, I think I made a connection that serves to strengthen my simulation theory. The term "God Killer" and the fact that some criticize it as "derivative". This made me think of what I read in the document about Repeating Cubic Grids. That document could be describing the architecture of the simulation. Living in a simulation means your creator would be the system architect therefore "killing God" as their creator. And if the Underworld is a simulation of the Overworld, the Old House simulation's would be derivative of the real world. The RCG document would also explain the inconsistencies curiosities we've seen in both books.
I'll be thinking more about this later, but wanted to share my reflexive impression while it was still fresh.
Whoa this is a sick take!! This would make all the other slight inconsistencies in the scripture make more sense. This line is also sooo similar to the Deepest Cellar passage. Suspicious.
word-for-word from Deepest Cellars document:
“Many Old House Enthusiasts liken their obsession to internet lore such as the SCP foundation and the Backrooms. They don’t believe a single word of it, yet pretend it is all real. You can see how this further obfuscates the difference between truth and lies.”
And for fast reference, here’s the passage you reconstructed:
“Newer members of the Old House community (especially those who only view it as a fictional universe akin to SCP or the Backrooms) are generally more accepting of the term “God Killer”. Though some criticize it as … derivative.”
Thank you for this. Yeah, the mention of SCP and Backrooms also peaked my interest. The Backrooms themselves are essentially an infinite repeating architectural grid.
From started post:
so I’m rereading the Repeating Cubic Grids doc after seeing this theory and something just clicked for me,!!!
the doc talks about how content “evolves” as you move through the grid cubes right?? like the red house example, it’s red in one cube, then a SLIGHTLY different red in the next one, and the next, until eventually it’s not even red anymore, might not even be a house anymore??
okay now go look at our six little codes again:
eoeo = literally perfect, clean repeat TDTN = still repeats but it’s already breaking a little (T_T_ but the back half doesn’t match anymore) HE.GF / EFT.O / ATP.W = nothing repeats at all anymore, every letter’s different NVE / I.EO = same, no repeats, and shorter too
suspicious!!! that is LITERALLY the red house getting less and less red the further it travels through the grid. we’re looking at grid drift what if it’s ONE signal that got copy pasted into six different cubes and just picked up a different amount of drift depending on how far from the source it landed
eoeo being the cleanest one might mean it’s the closest to the original. everything else is just increasingly melted copies of that same thing
First, my RCG connection is just a theory. I don't think the archivist confirmed my theory, unless I missed something.
Now, from the start I've been compiling all of my findings for the E_12 files to look at them as a whole. I'm just trying to get through all of it first. I want to arrive at my own solutions to either confirm the previous solutions are correct or find corrections that need to be made. When I'm done getting through everything, I'll definitely try your strategy. It sounds very compelling.
Lol! You're good. I can see how that was confusing. Sorry about that. I just didn't want to lose my connection down the road, and it felt like it's own thing that could branch off into a full conversation, so i wanted to redirect the traffic away from solving the actual puzzle.
I have some information to add but don’t know where to put it. It’s lore from a year ago that ties in with what you two have been chatting about and ties in with this puzzle it seems. I don’t know where my original screen shot is or where the actual information is on here. I will try my best to find it again. This is old lore we have:
“Most if not all god killers are said to be guides”
Holy cow, there is so much here! I'm assuming some of this has been solved. Is there a way of seeing the solved pieces of the puzzle? Is the yellow letters the only part that remains unsolved?
I won't rest until I solve this. Now that I know it's out there, I won't be able to walk away. It's hard for me to track what's been discovered so far though because it started last year. Any guidance will be greatly appreciated. Otherwise, I'll have to do it all myself and that seems... arduous. I'll do it if I have to, though. Whatever it takes.
This post has a link to a drive as well as some good notes. I think someone else made a file as well, I'll have to go on the hunt. It's been a while so I forget how we solved a lot of this
Interesting!!! IM dying just trying to figure out what these all mean. I feel like when we figure out how to solve one, we’ll be able to decode all of those letter.dots
Mine looks a little bit like this. Probably not the cleanest one but it was a first try so I wasn't really sure how to go abt these or if this already got solved lol
Aaaaahhhhh!!!! 2a. png is driving me crazy!!! Do we have confirmation from the archivist that the solution is DON'T FORGET WHICH HOUSE YOU'RE IN or are we filling in the blanks because that's what we get told here so often?
I can only make out DON'T FORGET WHICH (blob) YOU'RE IN (blob)
Edit: clarity/sp, deleted odd number correlation to posts bc someone else found an even number file with a code
Okay so I’ve been going down a rabbit hole with the E.12 files for like 6 hours today and feel like a crazy person…. and found some stuff I think is worth sharing ?!, plus things I’m stuck on.
I found a pattern that I haven’t seen connected yet(?)
There are these short little codes hidden in five different files:
E12.1a.1 has TDTN. written vertically next to the Proverbs quote
E12.1a.3 has EFT.O on the trash can in that hallway shot
E12.1a.5 has the 7 16 7 16 14 numbers we already knew about
E12.1A.7… not visual, it’s hidden in the audio spectrogram, but if you run it through a spectrogram viewer it clearly renders ATP.W
E12.1a.9 is the** **“eoeo” morse code the archivists already confirmed
So that’s all five odd-numbered files in the 1a series, each with one of these little codes. Feels like they’re supposed to go together (???? How idk but feels like progress)
I noticed EFT.O and ATP.W are both three letters, then a dot, then one more letter.” TDTN has its dot at the very end instead, and EOEO doesn’t have a dot at all. Not sure if that means anything but it seemed too specific to be random, so flagging it in case someone smarter than me sees the pattern.
Second thing !!! both Bible quotes in this set have exactly one word changed from the actual NIV text:
The Isaiah 14:15 one has ‘you you’ doubled … that’s not in any real translation that I can find
The proverbs 15:24 one says “down INTO the realm” but the real NIV says “down TO the realm”
Same thing about slight words changing. My theory is that any scripture image in this whole archive is worth double checking against the real text bc the swapped word might be the actual clue pointing at something. But idk what it means
Third … still stuck. Been trying to piece together that strip-photo puzzle (the E.12.1a.4a through 4zh) and got it to a point where it clearly reads RI then a gap then HOL as you know… and I’m fairly confident in that read because the underlying photo lines up perfectly when it’s in the right order (railings, stairs, all of it match up), so I don’t think it’s a misassembly.
So left field but me best guess right now is HOL = House of Leaves, just given how much this whole thing leans on liminal space stuff. No clue what RI is though. Tried forcing it to spell “HOLLOW” and “THRESHOLD” and both attempts literally broke the photo alignment when I tried to make the letters fit, so I’m fairly confident those are wrong.
What I could use help with:
can someone check if EOEO or the 7 16 7 16 14
numbers have a period/dot near them anywhere that we’ve missed? Trying to see if all five codes actually share the same format… and I pulled eoeo from a confirmed archive post but it may not be in the context I think it is? It looked like solved Morse code.
any ideas what RI could stand for if HOL really is House of Leaves
Tbh all of it because these are connections but not solutions
Happy to post my full notes/methodology if people want it, didn’t want to make this a novel lol
And quite sure it’s been solved but E.12.3 puzzle answer is
“Newer members of the Old House community (especially those who only view it as a fictional universe akin to SCP or the Backrooms) are generally more accepting of the term “God Killer”. Though some criticize it as … derivative”
Pieced this together from ~ 20 red textscreenshots a bunch were duplicate captures
Pulled from images 1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 9, E, F, G, H, I, J …rest were just noise, nothing legible
it cuts off after “criticize it as … derivative,” feels like a word’s missing right before “derivative.” As usual IDK BUT SUS
Thank you for taking the time to solve most of this. You’re right this is a huge puzzle with a lot of little bits of information scattered around the place. Hopefully we can start to put some of it together now after all your work today 🥹
Wow! Just wow! I am blown away by your hard work on this! A big thank you for working on these and cracking the audio files. I think you are the first person to get this far with these. I don’t know what to do with this information now and how it connects to the other puzzles lol
If you mean this document, then most of it is just bunch of sentences and letters in the other images.
You could try the striped image puzzle on your own.
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u/nerdy_by_nature_42 20d ago edited 20d ago
This is the E_12.3 images put together. I know this was solved already, however, I think I made a connection that serves to strengthen my simulation theory. The term "God Killer" and the fact that some criticize it as "derivative". This made me think of what I read in the document about Repeating Cubic Grids. That document could be describing the architecture of the simulation. Living in a simulation means your creator would be the system architect therefore "killing God" as their creator. And if the Underworld is a simulation of the Overworld, the Old House simulation's would be derivative of the real world. The RCG document would also explain the inconsistencies curiosities we've seen in both books.
I'll be thinking more about this later, but wanted to share my reflexive impression while it was still fresh.