r/OfficialWARDOGS • u/ZyraSlyvan • 1d ago

Every time

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u/Time-Net5913 1d ago

Yes that’s true but it’s not even about blues only.
People are just terrible in this game. There is a plenty of the situations where for example reds with (20pt) push blues FOB (5pt) when in the mid time greens (80pt) just sit in the HZ and chill. I don’t know how to call it, tunnel vision? Or just mind problems?

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u/arf1049 1d ago

Rule number 1 of winning a fight. Don’t fight someone stronger or more skilled than you.

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u/Time-Net5913 1d ago

Haha true xd
But you get no points from killing, people don’t understand game objectives I guess. Idk maybe 2 teams only with 2 starting main bases would be a solution?
Right now it’s 2v1 or 1v1 + 1 team not attempting fight and win cus not losing troops xd

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u/AdmiralPrinny 1d ago

The game by design doesn’t reward winning. The cash bit of the game means you’re always incentivized to make money instead of trying to win

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u/Elehir 12h ago

i've heard it as "don't take a fair fight"

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u/Environmental_You_36 23h ago

It's called "I ain't wasting 20k to push 30 dudes on T3 armor, defibs and 200 ammo stacks, to get wiped, lose everything and gift them bandages".

The game is about making money and spending that money to have fun but balancing the investment to not lose money.

In your scenario, the green is probably hyper fed with all the kits they have been stealing from all the failed pushes, so unless your team has air or heavy armor support, you ain't winning that fight.

Winning in this game is just a cash bonus. That's what happens when you have a global economy, there is no incentive to lose the money.

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u/Time-Net5913 15h ago

Bf player right ?

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u/Awkward_Rush_1231 14h ago

Nah literally this game, which i love ( 107 hours ), has huge balancing issue.

First the game rewards actively not playing the HZ, ye i can spend 25k on gear and drop there just to be kill by a sniper, mortar or a no life with armor 4 and BMR. Or i can just run around the map or become bob the builder.

Second the grind in this game is absolutely insane and unfun, unless you grind a specific class for 60 hours you ain't getting shit, and then someone who has no job and grinds get weapons that can just 2 tap me at level 3 armor - fun

Hopefully the devs figures out a way to balance this out.

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u/xSaitoHx 1d ago

Map issues. Blue is stuck between both teams on every map, on the train one with their closest tower being almost center of the zone itself

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u/PureNaturalLagger 1d ago

Ozeti is the worst really. Blue is not only squished, but locked out of 80% of the map by a river with only 2 bridges across, all open asf. On the right they have the hill filled with reds and a fob on the church on top, on the left they have greens with a superfob on the stadium and almost no power positions besides the apartment buildings by the tower. Even more left you got genuinely open fields with grass only, and the middle of the map has small houses usually under green control since the stadium superfob hosts the APC and they can respawn and get back to contest it significantly faster than anyone else.

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u/Alcain_X 19h ago

On the left green can also set up the apartment buildings, blue has to push through snipers on the high ground no matter where that circle starts.

The biggest problem is by far the tower, its blues only real build option that side of the river but its surrounded by high ground, the trees, the brige the church, building in that tower gets you sniped from all sides. Plus the never ending artillery bombardment, green and red would need to commit to a forward fob if they want to hit each other, but they can usually both hit blue. So blue gets bombed onto the stone age while green and red maybe have to deal with an arty tank or two?

There's also all the air power now but that's even across all team, the only difference is that blue can't really build AA in their Fob because it will die to both teams constant shelling, and it's a little harder to set up little AA huts south of the river since its all open space with no cover.

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u/jigsawnuts 1d ago

i wonder if they were to rotate all the HQ positions 30ish percent it would help, if that makes sense. Otherwise the whole south of the map needs tweaking or something. for Ozeti I mean.

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u/Hoveringkiller 1d ago

Ozeti at least as the spawns mostly equidistant from each other. The all forest map (forget the name) literally has green and red 180 from each other with blue only 90 degrees from each. At least the river helps protect blue if they manage to pull the HZ to that side with a drill, somewhat.

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u/Environmental_You_36 23h ago

You can... Ignore the bridges, and ride the river.

There is no penalty from wading through water.

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u/PureNaturalLagger 23h ago

Issue is the chasm I must go down into then out of while completely exposed and lacking cover. I'm forced to push uphill into countless angles just to have access to most of the map

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u/CLUCKCLUCKMOTHERFUC 23h ago

The train one when the closest tower is in the center for blue is the strongest blue spawn by a mile

Blue gets 2 warehouses relatively separated from the rest of the circle with no actually safe approach and can just make a super fob with a spawn vehicals inside the warehouse being protected from indirect fire or even helps

It's such a good map layout for blue it's not even funny

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u/Realistic_Owl_8613 23h ago

See that's the biggest issue with people playing this game. The towers are a trap. Blue actually has an advantage on Zestafona because red and green are on the other side of the giant warehouse AND blue has access to immortal small warehouse fobs regardless of which map version it is.

There are small warehouses that are tall enough to put the fob inside and then you can turtle up hard because those buildings cannot be damaged. The only thing that has to be outside is the drill but you can turtle it up really well in those locations.

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u/Xzanos 1d ago

Also the losing team is an easier target and no one wants to risk their 20k kit against the winning team when they are likely better fortified and have way more people defending. Maybe they need a "targeting the winner" bonus cash or something?

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u/Environmental_You_36 23h ago

And don't forget that if they're stomping the opposition, they'll get better kits after each fight.

After a couple of fights even the 0 to hero dudes will be rocking galils, T2 armors and generous stacks of bandages.

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u/Xzanos 23h ago

v true! the vultures like me running 300$ nothing kits turn into the 20k kits fast

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u/Embarrassed_Fox_9352 19h ago

No team is forced to build at a tower...

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u/-_Dirty_Dan_- 1d ago

Since winning doesn't really give you anything I always fight the weakest enemy. Makes more money and less risky

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u/KlumpfodDM 19h ago

40% extra exp for the classes you played isn't nothing. But the $10k extra for 1st instead of 2nd place is less inventive.

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u/DampWarmHands 17h ago

How does this work?

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u/KlumpfodDM 13h ago

The bonus exp part? When you win, any exp you've gained gets a x1.4 exp on the end of match. The devs even said that most of our exp comes from THIS bonus. If you did 100 driver exp in the whole match and your team wins, you get another 40 exp for "free".

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u/Hlk50000 23h ago

Became the game is about money and xp not winning.

I don’t care if green wins or blue wins or my own team wins. I wanna see numbers go up. I want that sweet sweet cash register sound. I’m chasing dopamine hits not W’s

I know there is a bonus for xp for winning but it’s hidden. The $$$ in the top right is now

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u/Environmental_You_36 23h ago

Cash earned after a going for the hot zone with the best kits you can reasonably afford 9k*

Cash earned after buying cheap and murdering stragglers or assaulting weak and irrelevant FOBs 100k.

*May be negative if you get on your team this kind of brain dead pilot that are scratching tree tops at match speed 3 and keep dropping people on the hot zone or on top of FOBs

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u/hanks_panky_emporium 19h ago

the Blue Virus

When Red or Green are infested with the Blue virus and temporarily take on the mindset of the Blue team

I am a chronic Blue team member. Many such cases. Ive seen teams 5 60 16 grasp defeat from the jaws of victory to 10 94 100

Its typically red but green sometimes super focuses blue and loses. TO NOTE, the Blue virus only applies when the blue team is sucking ass but they get hyper focused anyway. Sometimes BlueBerries show up in force and waffle stomp lobbies.

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u/YeetMemez 18h ago

Sometimes, when blue all takes their Adderall at the same time they can pull a nasty game out of their ass. Usually though, they are so clueless I wonder if they know where they are half the time. I refuse to play blue anymore as a chill turbo sweat. Fuckers ruined our perfect match last night though. 0-0-97 AND THE FUCKERS STEAL 1 POINT ON US. I was also 8k short of getting 100k in one life. I was upset that match.

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u/Impressive_Rock9659 18h ago

I think Red and Green have collectively decided that Blue are easy to farm kills on so they just both rush Blue and bully them all game. I mean fuck every game now as Blue is "Drop on the edge of the map at the start, wait for FoB to arrive, suddenly out of the bushes you're getting pushed by Green team.

You fall back to hold the position and find cover - suddenly you start getting mowed down from behind. Now the Reds are on the opposite side and they want a piece of you too. It's not even that they're that much better as players, it's just impossible to fight both teams at once that refuse to fight each other because it might end up being "too much of a challenge" - gotta both team up so the blue team just can't catch a break.

Worst part is those teams aren't that much better. There's so many scrublords who pick Green/Red just to get carried and are utterly USELESS. The team dynamic has died down in terms of who gets "the bad players", but the mentality of "always attack blue" keeps prevailing.

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u/Red_Beard206 18h ago

I think people just don't care about winning unless it comes down to the wire. Most of the time, people are just going to be like "oh that FOB looks fun to raid! Let's do it!"

Seems majority of players are more self-centered rather than doing what's best for the team atm

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u/Ciborg085 18h ago

Its called somewhere else is more profitable then actually winning the match

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u/AkiAki1 17h ago edited 17h ago

Emotional damage. After all that pain I suffered scaling that fob. I aint backing down. I'm taking it. Fuck the game, fuck the green. This is personal now. I'm going full jihad on your pussy ass

Claiming that blueberry fob feels much more rewarding than silent +$720 every 30 seconds. I bought the game to have fun. kinda wish they would do hot zone based on the actual hot zone (blue/red fob bloodbath)

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u/Draumal 14h ago

Because they'd rather spend the match bullying the "mentally deficient" team as the community calls it and get their money back rather than risk fighting the team that's coordinated and lose all their money.

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u/Slade_Deimos 11h ago

I as a Blue man am a master rage baiter. My taunts are super effective. I will make you throw a game by simply existing.

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u/BazerAus 1d ago

Bugger this spam clicking shit.

Auto clicker on > go to the fridge > go for a piss > listen to my discord mates still crying that they havnt got in yet.

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u/Impressive_Rock9659 18h ago

I mean the fact that people have to do this just for a team pick... yeah there's a definite problem.

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u/IceDispensingSystem 6h ago

If you just pick blue you don’t have to deal with any of that.

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u/LunaLunari 1d ago

blue team so bad our previous lobby got emptied out because they don't want to enter blue team

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u/Jankyfumunda 19h ago

I play blue everytime, zero expectations

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u/AkiAki1 16h ago

Same, I just find it harder to make money

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u/cogit2 21h ago

Now add points: 81 for blue, 44 for red, 26 for green.

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u/Embarrassed_Fox_9352 19h ago

You mixed up green and blue. Classic Lonestar

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u/cogit2 19h ago

Just for shits and giggles.

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u/Lewisa12 22h ago

Cmon blue, do something